Danny Deflation Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 In Spain: a bull has reportedly gored a man to death during a "bull run" at a festival. The thing is, I can muster little sympathy for the dead man for two reasons: 1. Standing and watching bulls taunted as they run down a street is bloody dangerous. 2. The Spanish have - for years - been "enjoying" the cruel, barbaric pastime of bullfighting for years, and it's kind of refreshing to hear of a bull triumphing for a change (albeit with a spectator). http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8143744.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftiebeard Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 2. The Spanish have - for years - been "enjoying" the cruel, barbaric pastime of bullfighting for years, and it's kind of refreshing to hear of a bull triumphing for a change (albeit with a spectator).http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8143744.stm Must disagree with you Danny; bullfighting is a glorious sport. The bravery of both bull and matador is something to behold. For me, there are few more pleasurable things in life, than watching a bullfight in Granada or Seville's late afternoon sunlight, accompanied by a glass of sherry and a cigar. Wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moley Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Must disagree with you Danny; bullfighting is a glorious sport. The bravery of both bull and matador is something to behold. For me, there are few more pleasurable things in life, than watching a bullfight in Granada or Seville's late afternoon sunlight, accompanied by a glass of sherry and a cigar. Wonderful. Ahahahah! "Redbull gives you wings!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anorthosite Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 In Spain: a bull has reportedly gored a man to death during a "bull run" at a festival.The thing is, I can muster little sympathy for the dead man for two reasons: 1. Standing and watching bulls taunted as they run down a street is bloody dangerous. 2. The Spanish have - for years - been "enjoying" the cruel, barbaric pastime of bullfighting for years, and it's kind of refreshing to hear of a bull triumphing for a change (albeit with a spectator). http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8143744.stm I have to say that I struggle to do anything but delight in the victory of the bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AuntJess Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I have to say that I struggle to do anything but delight in the victory of the bull +1. Anyone who is happy to fight a tortured bull and put an end to an innocent beast's life, deserves everything he gets. I am 100% on the bull's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Skinty Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Go bulls go! (Would it help if I did a little cheerleading dance here?) First time you see HPC'ers cheering on the bulls though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saving For a Space Ship Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 They've been warning about this since the Disco days .. Here comes the bull ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5EgbdEJy94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackalope Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Must disagree with you Danny; bullfighting is a glorious sport. The bravery of both bull and matador is something to behold. For me, there are few more pleasurable things in life, than watching a bullfight in Granada or Seville's late afternoon sunlight, accompanied by a glass of sherry and a cigar. Wonderful. How is the bull brave? He doesn't get any choice. If your idea of a good time is watching an animal be tortured to death then you are a Ñock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Deflation Posted July 10, 2009 Author Share Posted July 10, 2009 If your idea of a good time is watching an animal be tortured to death then you are a Ñock. +1 Beautifully put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Deflation Posted July 10, 2009 Author Share Posted July 10, 2009 +1. Anyone who is happy to fight a tortured bull and put an end to an innocent beast's life, deserves everything he gets. I am 100% on the bull's side. Hopefully we'll one day hear of a fox chasing an bloodthirsty, upper-class twit to its death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24gray24 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 If you eat meat, then you are killing things. The honesty of a bull fight is that you have to watch what eating meat really means...killing an innocent creature. It's much easier to buy your food all wrapped up in cellophane in Tesco, and say you disapprove of killing bulls at the same time, without seeing the inconsistency. I'm not a veggie btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackalope Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 If you eat meat, then you are killing things. I don't eat meat but there is a qualitative difference between humanely slaughtering an animal for food and torturing it to death for entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AuntJess Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 If you eat meat, then you are killing things. The honesty of a bull fight is that you have to watch what eating meat really means...killing an innocent creature. It's much easier to buy your food all wrapped up in cellophane in Tesco, and say you disapprove of killing bulls at the same time, without seeing the inconsistency.I'm not a veggie btw. It is totally DIS honest, IMO. The bull is weakened by picadors who stick spears into it. Then the bullfighter - who must be REALLY brave to fight a weakened, exhausted, wounded bull, fannies about in the ring then kills it. Abbatoires might not be the nicest of places, but BY ENGLISH LAW - they have to pre-stun the bull before they cut its throat. Halal bulls don't get the prestunning, but even that - I am reluctant to say - is better than the long drawn out death in the bull ring. They also have a religious "feast" where lots of obese men pile onto a donkey's back until it breaks..that sounds GREAT fun or throw a young goat from the top of a church tower. The goat obviously is enjoying it, as it leaves excrement in the tower - due to being in stark terror. I will happily volunteer to throw a Spaniard from a clock tower, or join with a coupla dozen friends to sit on him till his bones break or his lungs collapse. If it is such great 'sport', they should be willing to take part too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anorthosite Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I will happily volunteer to throw a Spaniard from a clock tower, or join with a coupla dozen friends to sit on him till his bones break or his lungs collapse. If it is such great 'sport', they should be willing to take part too. To be honest, that's a little unfair on the Spaniards who feel the same way you do. I think Spain has a growing animal rights movement. Your signature reminds me of Granpa Simpson BTW, "I used to be with it, but then they changed what 'it' was. Now, what I'm with isn't it, and what's 'it' seems weird and scary" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moley Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 It is totally DIS honest, IMO. The bull is weakened by picadors who stick spears into it. Then the bullfighter - who must be REALLY brave to fight a weakened, exhausted, wounded bull, fannies about in the ring then kills it.Abbatoires might not be the nicest of places, but BY ENGLISH LAW - they have to pre-stun the bull before they cut its throat. Halal bulls don't get the prestunning, but even that - I am reluctant to say - is better than the long drawn out death in the bull ring. They also have a religious "feast" where lots of obese men pile onto a donkey's back until it breaks..that sounds GREAT fun or throw a young goat from the top of a church tower. The goat obviously is enjoying it, as it leaves excrement in the tower - due to being is stark terror. I will happily volunteer to throw a Spaniard from a clock tower, or join with a coupla dozen friends to sit on him till his bones break or his lungs collapse. If it is such great 'sport', they should be willing to take part too. I will happily join you. Spaniards seem to be great fans of tormenting animals for fun. And one for Danny Deflation: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffneck Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 it's part of culture if people like the OP had their way there would be no culture left , we'd all be too busy wrapping ourself up in cotton wool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadoube Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I have to say that I struggle to do anything but delight in the victory of the bull + 1 And extra points for scarcity value, not something one would expect to see said on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftiebeard Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 How is the bull brave? He doesn't get any choice. If your idea of a good time is watching an animal be tortured to death then you are a Ñock. Typical socialist; not a clue about local customs and heritage. You probably want to ban anything else that doesn't conform to your world view. Go and learn about Spain, their bullfighting customs and practices, instead of casting immediate judgements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackalope Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Typical socialist; not a clue about local customs and heritage. You probably want to ban anything else that doesn't conform to your world view. Go and learn about Spain, their bullfighting customs and practices, instead of casting immediate judgements. It's got nothing do with socialism, heritage or customs. I do think a ban on torturing animals to death for an afternoon's entertainment is appropriate though. There's been plenty of unspeakably cruel pastimes that have been part of many cultures but most have moved on. It seems like the Spanish and some Ñocks are having difficulty doing without animal cruelty as a part of their leisure activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AuntJess Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 it's part of cultureif people like the OP had their way there would be no culture left , we'd all be too busy wrapping ourself up in cotton wool I guess we had better keep our noses out of those cultures that believe in Female Genital Mutilation too. Culture is just a particular way of operating - much like a religion or political party. Would you defend the practices/beliefs of Islam or the BNP on those grounds.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AuntJess Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 To be honest, that's a little unfair on the Spaniards who feel the same way you do. I think Spain has a growing animal rights movement.Your signature reminds me of Granpa Simpson BTW, "I used to be with it, but then they changed what 'it' was. Now, what I'm with isn't it, and what's 'it' seems weird and scary" Well I would not be chucking one offa tower, unless he was one of the perps. I reckon 'a taste of their own medicine' is a creed that could be applied across the board, to many a ne'erdo well. As to signature...am thinking of changing it. It is a bit worn now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 It's worth pointing out that the Grand National is also a very cruel activity towards animals. How many horses have died/been put down afterwards because they are so exhausted after running such a difficult race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AuntJess Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 It's worth pointing out that the Grand National is also a very cruel activity towards animals. How many horses have died/been put down afterwards because they are so exhausted after running such a difficult race? My father would not BET on, or watch the Grand National, for that very reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Skinty Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 How many horses have died/been put down afterwards because they are so exhausted after running such a difficult race? Not disagreeing with you, just wondering why they don't just let the horses recover? Or is it that the horses are permanently injured by running the race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 My walks often take me through fields of bulls, no matter how many bulls there are they always run away from me, timid things they are. Bulls are to be pitied, theyre quite pathetic creatures really, only a pussy nation like Spain would hold them as some sort of fearsome menace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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