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Ubuntu Linux. Is it easy to use?

I was put of Linux years ago when I tried Redhat, back in days when 32mb of RAM was considered normal. Couldnt get on with at all.

Have things changed and is it a real alternative MacWindows?

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Yes its great. try the live CD if you want, lets you try it out without installing anything.

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Yes its great. try the live CD if you want, lets you try it out without installing anything.

How do you get that?

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Download the cd and just power-up the PC with it in.

Note if you have an ATI gfx card of newer types (eg:4850) then prepare for despair cos they don't work and you install a black screen.

TFH

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Have things changed and is it a real alternative MacWindows?

Its easier to install and no its not an alternative except in the way walking is an alternative to having a car.

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I think it depends what you want to do with it. Any proper commercial office work or IT work or hard-core gaming and you need Windows (or Mac if you are music/arts).

But for me it's all web-browsing. Google docs and open office are good enough to write letters, do budgets, etc. I rarely power up windows except to play an old game.

Of course all the Comms tools like Skype also work well on Linux.

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Its easier to install and no its not an alternative except in the way walking is an alternative to having a car.

Like walking keeps you fit and non-flabby and saves you a fortune in repair and running costs?

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Its easier to install and no its not an alternative except in the way walking is an alternative to having a car.

Of course it's an alternative.

I would say 95/100 people could get along fine with just Ubuntu. I only ever boot up in Windows now when I want to watch some sport on P2P TV. And when I do it seems to take about 5 minutes for Windows to be ready. Linux boots up in about 20s and is ready to use 5s after I log on.

Not only that the software repository is superb. I still can't believe that people write all that brilliant software then just give it away for nowt.

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Of course all the Comms tools like Skype also work well on Linux.

skype is great. alsamixer is not.

trying to get your microphone working with alsamixer will put off 99% of would be converts.

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Like walking keeps you fit and non-flabby and saves you a fortune in repair and running costs?

Exactly. Walking does the job. However it doesnt do it particularly stylishly or conveniently, but its free. The analogy is perfect really.

There are those that will say 95/100 people could walk. But equally those same 95 dont want to walk.

When Linux goes wrong you are left with this

telnet-window.jpg

When Windows goes wrong you just roll it back with System Restore and you're back in business.

Good luck whatever you decide.

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Exactly. Walking does the job. However it doesnt do it particularly stylishly or conveniently, but its free. The analogy is perfect really.

Maybe Linux is a bicycle?

Edit: my computer looks like that all the time anyway.

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Maybe Linux is a bicycle?

Its not true that Linux is a second-best. It has a simple install, an intuitive UI, excellent office and communication tools, excellent development tools, Ubuntu doesn't suffer from DLL hell due to a decent package manager, it has 3D vista-like effects via XGL/compiz without requiring massive resources, most hardware works out of the box and you dont have to wait half a decade+ for the next version. It integrates with active directory and can seamlessly access SMB shares.

On the downside the games suck, there's a good chance your bespoke windows apps won't run under wine and if your hardware doesn't work out of the box then theres a good chance that that's your lot, at least for a while. If you use MS office vbscript plugins or need to connect to an exchange server reliably (i.e. you work in a Windows only environment) then it's probably not worth the hassle.

I use both Windows and Linux every day and I'd say it's worth a spin since it costs nothing. You might like it, you might hate it.

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Ditto if you have a Broadcom wireless card.

Not necessarily, I have just installed 9.04 and I have a laptop with Broadcom wireless and it detected it from the beginning and used the correct drivers for it.

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Exactly. Walking does the job. However it doesnt do it particularly stylishly or conveniently, but its free. The analogy is perfect really.

There are those that will say 95/100 people could walk. But equally those same 95 dont want to walk.

When Linux goes wrong you are left with this

telnet-window.jpg

When Windows goes wrong you just roll it back with System Restore and you're back in business.

Good luck whatever you decide.

That'll be the recovery console that is always available. For serious problems, Windows has a recovery console, so long as you remembered to install it or you have your installation disks.

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Of course all the Comms tools like Skype also work well on Linux.

I should point out that Skype for Linux is 2 versions behind the Windows release.

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Ditto if you have a Broadcom wireless card.

or a sound blaster x-fi xtreme audio. Dual screens also used to be a pain in the ass. Personally, no matter how many times i have migrated to linux over the years I've always ended up back in good old windows xp pro :)

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Any proper commercial office work or IT work or hard-core gaming and you need Windows (or Mac if you are music/arts).

Strange: both my PCs at work run Linux. Two of our four PCs at home run Linux, and one of the Windows PCs is only powered up when I want to play a game or do some video editing.

You may need Windows if you have to run Windows-only software (which for Joe Sixpack mostly means games). But if you're just doing web-browsing, email, word processing, etc, Linux does it at least as well as Windows and far more securely.

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Not necessarily, I have just installed 9.04 and I have a laptop with Broadcom wireless and it detected it from the beginning and used the correct drivers for it.

My last but one laptop was an Acer with Broadcom wireless. Ubuntu (can't remember what version - this was about two years ago) wouldn't recognise the card. When I Googled it, I found a horrendously complicated workaround that involved Ndiswrapper and ripping certain components of the Windows driver and getting it to use that. After about half a day I gave up. On both the two laptops I've had since there has been at least one major hardware peripheral that Ubuntu couldn't recognise (including the SATA interface on one, meaning that Ubuntu couldn't see the hard drive).

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Here's my two cents:

As a Windows user of many many years I've tended to stick with it. I love WindowsXP, hate Vista, but will probably embrace Windows 7 with open arms.

Windows does what I need, which is run Dreamweaver and Photoshop for my web stuff. The other software that I need and use regularly is freely available at no cost.

I keep my Anti-Virus up to date (Avast! - again free) and also keep Windows up to date. I don't wish to tempt fate, but with these measures plus a decent router I am not troubled by viruses. I backup everything automatically and regularly, using Allway Sync (free but I choose to pay for it).

I have tried Linux on a number of occasions, Ubuntu, Mint, SuSe to name a few. I've found them all to be easy to install, fast, reliable and certainly I would say that by using the LiveCD option, everyone should have a go with Ubuntu.

However, I've always come back to Windows for 'proper' work. I am just completely at home with it and it does the things I need it to do. What I would say though is that if I ever was in a position where I needed just web surfing, email, a bit of office work and not much else then I would probably make a permanent move to Ubuntu.

Bottom line, give it a go, but it isn't Windows.

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Here's my two cents:

As a Windows user of many many years I've tended to stick with it. I love WindowsXP, hate Vista, but will probably embrace Windows 7 with open arms.

I have Windows 7 on my laptop, it was on Vista before that. It is only really used for surfing.

Windows 7 is Vista with better PR. It is still slow but very pretty. A big reason a lot of gamers didnt move to Vista, is that they get really bad fps. Like 100 in Xp and 40 in Vista.

A few quotes from PC Pros guide to Windows 7

"There was little to choose between Windows Vista and 7 when it came to gaming performance"

"Microsofts decision to use the same core OS as vista means that incompatible games seem to be few a far between"

"A clean install using the same hardware scored 1.54 in Windows 7, 1.8 in Vista, and 2.1 in Xp" (Bigger numbers are faster)

So its even slower than Vista! Thats because it is Vista with some changes of course.

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Give Mint linux a try. It's based on Ubuntu, but is even better in my humble opinion.

I still require windows XP for various things, so I just run it in a virtual machine.

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Another Linux convert here. Every PC except my HTPC is now running Ubuntu, and that is only running XP because the VFD and IR sensor require windows drivers. In time though I expect these will become available on Linux.

Every time I have a problem there seems to be a fix on the ubuntu forums, which although I am "computer literate" have been installed easily with practically no linux knowledge.

The only significant downside I have found is the lack of lexmark printer drivers. The upsides are many, including getting some hardware to work that just won't behave under XP (S3 standby/wake on LAN on my server).

Definitely worth a bash, and you'll probably find that ubuntu runs quicker from the CD than windows from the hard drive!

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I always have a dual boot, except for old computers which just have linux. I use the two operating systems for different things. I use Linux by default, but if I am scanning photos or using any specialist apps or games then I boot into windows.

Linux just runs so much faster and more smoothly, partly because you don't have to run any virus checkers. It used to be that Windows booted up faster but Linux ran faster, but now with Vista, Linux boots up and runs faster.

I do all my coding using Linux. I wouldn't dream of using Windows for what I try and do with the software I write. It's just too bloated and poor and doesn't give me the flexibility that I need.

Personally I use open Suse.

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