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Harriet Harman's Equality Bill

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Is there actually any chance of this making the statute book before Labour are consigned to the scrapheap of history at the next election?

And if yes, will the British people just bend over and take it as usual?

In case you didn't know, its the bill that allows employers to discriminate in favour of women and black job candidates.

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Is there actually any chance of this making the statute book before Labour are consigned to the scrapheap of history at the next election?

And if yes, will the British people just bend over and take it as usual?

In case you didn't know, its the bill that allows employers to discriminate in favour of women and black job candidates.

Yep, shes got more in common with Mr Griffin than she would like to admit.

I doubt British people know - they see 'equality' and they probably think it outlaws colour discrimination, not legislate in its favour.

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Why would an employer want a black or woman particularly?

Surely they would wont the right person for the job irespective of colour etc.

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Why would an employer want a black or woman particularly?

Surely they would wont the right person for the job irespective of colour etc.

You'd think, wouldn't you?

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That woman is evil I tell you

+1.

ZanuLabour; never short of ideas to waste money we don't have, feather their own nests, destroy what social cohesion we have left and put into action all the 60's student radical crap they grew up with without any nod to reality.

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Why would an employer want a black or woman particularly?

Surely they would wont the right person for the job irespective of colour etc.

Thats why it doesnt matter. Women are already unemployable due to maternity regulations. This wont change that. meh

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+1.

ZanuLabour; never short of ideas to waste money we don't have, feather their own nests, destroy what social cohesion we have left and put into action all the 60's student radical crap they grew up with without any nod to reality.

Best post on here for ages - bravo!

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Why would an employer want a black or woman particularly?

Surely they would wont the right person for the job irespective of colour etc.

S'funny. Not too long ago someone got rapped on the knuckles for advertising for a Scottish cook. :blink:

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+1.

ZanuLabour; never short of ideas to waste money we don't have, feather their own nests, destroy what social cohesion we have left and put into action all the 60's student radical crap they grew up with without any nod to reality.

Well said! Succinct denunciation of the twits now in power.

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S'funny. Not too long ago someone got rapped on the knuckles for advertising for a Scottish cook. :blink:

I had to read that twice Jess, why shouldnt people be able to find sexual partners from any country they wanted. Oh you said cook :lol:

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Like the Curate's egg, there are some good bits in the Bill. The 1995 Disability Discrimination Act still isn't helping disabled people get into work, although their benefits are to be cut on the assumption that it does. So any firming up of the disability provisions is to be welcomed.

However, there is a small but important anomoly in the current legislation which was idntified in a case my son brought against the Medical Research Council. The anomoly has been carried through to the new Bill. So he wrote to Harriet Harman to point it out. No reply. He wrote to the Chairman of the Parliamentary Committee for the Bill. No reply.

So who isn't listening? Politicians, obviously, but also the Civil Servants seem to have lost interest in their role in Government. I suspect Westminster has the enthusiasm that held in the last days of Hitler's bunker.

The answer to the OP then, is that if the Equality Bill makes it to statute it will be a dog's dinner. And do not worry about its provisions, the only bit that will be taken up with any enthusiasm will be about gender re-assignment, because they have the loudest (high pitched) voices.

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Creating the idea that a section of society are somehow inferior is nothing new. Hitler did it with the Jews and now this Government does it with White Heterosexual Males.

It starts with propaganda then moves on to the laws, and finally death!

This Governments dreams will become a nightmare for many.

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ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm

http://www.equalities.gov.uk/media/press_r...ality_bill.aspx

HARMAN: EQUALITY BILL WILL BUILD A FAIRER AND STRONGER BRITAIN

27 April 2009

Harriet Harman today published the Equality Bill which will make Britain stronger, fairer and more equal.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/c...085_iw_en_2.htm

(1) Race includes—

(a) colour;

(B) nationality;

© ethnic or national origin.

(2) In relation to the protected characteristic of race—

(a) 5a reference to a person who has a particular protected characteristic is

a reference to a person of a particular racial group;

(B) a reference to persons who share a protected characteristic is a

reference to persons of the same racial group.

(3) A racial group is a group of persons defined by reference to race; and a

10reference to a person’s racial group is a reference to a racial group into which

the person falls.

(4) The fact that a racial group comprises two or more distinct racial groups does

not prevent it from constituting a particular racial group.

WTF is this crap???

(4) A’s work is rated as equivalent to B’s work if a job evaluation study—

(a) gives an equal value to A’s job and B’s job in terms of the demands

made on a worker, or

(B) would give an equal value to A’s job and B’s job in those terms were the

evaluation not made on a sex-specific system.

(5) A system is sex-specific if, for the purposes of one or more of the demands

made on a worker, it sets values for men different from those it sets for women.

(6) A’s work is of equal value to B’s work if it is—

(a) neither like B’s work nor rated as equivalent to B’s work, but

(B) nevertheless equal to B’s work in terms of the demands made on A by

reference to factors such as effort, skill and decision-making.

this is basically legislation drawn up specifically to give a fat lucrative pipeline to the ethnic compensation legal industry.

Given that Labour has destroyed our economy, this bill appears to provide the ammunition for professional whingers and compensation-seekers to tie their employers up in knots...

Assessment of whether work is of equal value

(1) This section applies to proceedings before an employment tribunal on—

(a) a complaint relating to a breach of an equality clause or rule, or

(B) a question referred to the tribunal by virtue of section 122(2).

(2) Where a question arises in the proceedings as to whether one person’s work is

of equal value to another’s, the tribunal may, before determining the question,

require a member of the panel of independent experts to prepare a report on

the question.

(3) The tribunal may withdraw a requirement that it makes under subsection (2);

and, if it does so, it may—

(a) request the panel member to provide it with specified documentation;

(B) make such other requests to that member as are connected with the

withdrawal of the requirement.

(4) If the tribunal requires the preparation of a report under subsection (2) (and

does not withdraw the requirement), it must not determine the question unless

it has received the report.

(5) Subsection (6) applies where—

(a) a question arises in the proceedings as to whether the work of one

person (A) is of equal value to the work of another (B), and

(B) A’s work and B’s work have been given different values by a job

evaluation study.

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