Blue Warwick Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 never minding the fact that conscription takes away choice in the matter, I would fight for my country and the freedom of my fellow man. My only problem is trying to identify both of these anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Then groucho marx is a selfish ungratefull Kunt!The alied forces on D-day didnt do anything for themselves or their own countries. Britain USA and Canda hadnt been invaded they did it to liberate France etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sGJ_25cUaY...feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBingo Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 No, this is wrong. I heard on Woman's Hour a couple of weeks ago that it was the "easy option" (<--- honestly, exact wording) going abroad to be killed or maimed, the hard work was all done on the home front by women. Everyone in the studio agreed.I only bring it up because it was barking mad even by the standards of that programme. The BBC is full of loony lefties pretending to be impartial. The only people I dislike more then the Labour government, at least they don't pretend to be unbiased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBingo Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 This country has been hijacked by fascists. I'd never bear arms to defend them or their system....EVERI would bear arms against the state to protect my freedom and liberty, should it ever come to that, and I suspect it will very soon. Your right it has, but they won't come for you and put you in death camps, they will come for you if your middle class sooner or later and criminalise you for some infraction, or deviance from the progressive agenda. If your not a career criminal you won't know how to play the system to get off. If you want to be horrified about the way the police are now only useful for fining the middle classes and rendered helpless to deal with real crime take a gander: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Perverting-Course-...8742&sr=8-9 I know spending two weeks forced to attended a diversity course or get a criminal record are better than being in a death camp, but its still fascism, just the liberal version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 A war is like when it rains in New York and everybody crowds into doorways, ya know? And they all get chummy together. Perfect strangers. The only difference, of course, is in a war it's also raining on the other side of the street and the people who are chummy over there are trying to kill the people who are over here who are chums. -- Hawkeye, M*A*S*H. You know sometimes I think there should be a rule of war saying you have to see someone up close and get to know 'em before it's ok to shoot 'em. -- Potter, M*A*S*H. I've got a soft spot for Klinger. He looks a little like my son, and he dresses a lot like my wife -- Potter, M*A*S*H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Bart' Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 If not, also why? If they had to rely on me, with my physical failings, then this country would be soooooooooooooo screwed. Are there any causes you would fight for and risk your life and limbs? I'd join Project Mayhem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UK Debt Slave Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Your right it has, but they won't come for you and put you in death camps, they will come for you if your middle class sooner or later and criminalise you for some infraction, or deviance from the progressive agenda. If your not a career criminal you won't know how to play the system to get off.If you want to be horrified about the way the police are now only useful for fining the middle classes and rendered helpless to deal with real crime take a gander: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Perverting-Course-...8742&sr=8-9 I know spending two weeks forced to attended a diversity course or get a criminal record are better than being in a death camp, but its still fascism, just the liberal version. People associate fascism with genocide and death camps etc Those things aere not necessary for a state to be fascist. Is far as I am concerned, we are now living in a Gramscian (soft) fascist state. Things will only get worse because so many people can't see the bleedin' obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBingo Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Is far as I am concerned, we are now living in a Gramscian (soft) fascist state. Things will only get worse because so many people can't see the bleedin' obvious. Indeed, fascism is the logical progression for socialism once you decide not to go the communist route. The same was true of Hitler, Musslioni and Tony Blair. Now Tony Blair is a lot more like Mussolini than Hitler. But all of them where socialists who thought they had discovered a politics beyond politics, or as all three of them called it 'The Third Way'. If you study the period its outright alarming how much rhetoric TB unknowingly repeated. I do defiantly believe that New Labour is a classically fascist party. If you don't believe me start reading up on Mussolini and to a lesser extend Hitler and Woodrow Wilson. P.S Gordon Brown is a poor man's totalitarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indirectapproach Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I have nothing against killing people to defend my family and my country. I am not against inflicting collateral damage on them so they don't do it to us. I would serve if I could do so in good conscience, in whatever position, however menial I was told to. In the current climate that puts me down as a definite "no" and I will vote accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Warwick Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Your right it has, but they won't come for you and put you in death camps, they will come for you if your middle class sooner or later and criminalise you for some infraction, or deviance from the progressive agenda. If your not a career criminal you won't know how to play the system to get off.If you want to be horrified about the way the police are now only useful for fining the middle classes and rendered helpless to deal with real crime take a gander: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Perverting-Course-...8742&sr=8-9 I know spending two weeks forced to attended a diversity course or get a criminal record are better than being in a death camp, but its still fascism, just the liberal version. Indeed, fascism is the logical progression for socialism once you decide not to go the communist route. The same was true of Hitler, Musslioni and Tony Blair.Now Tony Blair is a lot more like Mussolini than Hitler. But all of them where socialists who thought they had discovered a politics beyond politics, or as all three of them called it 'The Third Way'. If you study the period its outright alarming how much rhetoric TB unknowingly repeated. I do defiantly believe that New Labour is a classically fascist party. If you don't believe me start reading up on Mussolini and to a lesser extend Hitler and Woodrow Wilson. P.S Gordon Brown is a poor man's totalitarian. May I just say that you make your point so very well and I would suggest that the dropping by Zanulabour / THE PARTY of their master PLAN because of its conotations actually proves that they know what they are. Tony B Liar used the same body language / NLP techniques, you just need to check out the films of Hitler at his mass rallies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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