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Less than Jonathan Ross then?

He's welcome to my 5p.

Spend it frivolously Charlie boy old son.

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so he paid 3m in tax, and got 3m in subsidies?

Big deal. How many people do you know who work cash in hand and claim the dole?

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so he paid 3m in tax, and got 3m in subsidies?

Big deal. How many people do you know who work cash in hand and claim the dole?

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Hardly small fry! The £400 a month food bill for MP's amounts to more than 3m.

(I know I'm obsessed with that - so just thought I'd mention it again in an attempt to try and overcome my disorder!)

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Getting on my republican hobby horse again......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8114523.stm

This is totally indefensible in a modern society.

Are you MAD.. heres the defence.. He may have had costs of £3m paid by the taxpayer but he paid more than that in tax... in other words he cost £0.

He has a salary roll of £6.5m employing people who also pay tax.

he helped raise £130m in charitable contributions last year.

he himslef gave around £8m to charities.

the charity he founded (prince's trust) has given thousands a start in life they would not otherwise have had.

he was an environmental campaigner before most even realised such things were importnant.

he does something over 150 days work either as a de-facto ambassador for the UK or supporting charitable events for which he is not paid.

You must be totally and utterly mad if you view the royal family as offering poor value for money... being a republican is one thing but not being able to do a simple cost benefit analysis is unforgiveable... god save me from idiots.

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Are you MAD.. heres the defence.. He may have had costs of £3m paid by the taxpayer but he paid more than that in tax... in other words he cost £0.

He has a salary roll of £6.5m employing people who also pay tax.

he helped raise £130m in charitable contributions last year.

he himslef gave around £8m to charities.

the charity he founded (prince's trust) has given thousands a start in life they would not otherwise have had.

he was an environmental campaigner before most even realised such things were importnant.

he does something over 150 days work either as a de-facto ambassador for the UK or supporting charitable events for which he is not paid.

You must be totally and utterly mad if you view the royal family as offering poor value for money... being a republican is one thing but not being able to do a simple cost benefit analysis is unforgiveable... god save me from idiots.

Lot's of people are value for money (think the hundreds of thousands of small business owners) and they all pay taxes too, however it doesn't explain why we give someone who is already a multi-millionaire millions more £s each and every year.

Should we give the many people that pay taxes the equivalent in subsidy if they are millionaires? How absurd.

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Lot's of people are value for money (think the hundreds of thousands of small business owners) and they all pay taxes too, however it doesn't explain why we give someone who is already a multi-millionaire millions more £s each and every year.

Should we give the many people that pay taxes the equivalent in subsidy if they are millionaires? How absurd.

Fine if you don't give him £3m a year then I'm sure you'd be happy if he didn't work for nothing for 150 days a year,instead of giving £8m a year to charity he spent it himself, instead of helping tens of thousands through his charity he concentrated on making as much of his estates as he could etc etc..... I think you'll find its your own argument which is absurd....

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Hardly small fry! The £400 a month food bill for MP's amounts to more than 3m.

(I know I'm obsessed with that - so just thought I'd mention it again in an attempt to try and overcome my disorder!)

Don't fight it, Lettings Lady, let it all out!!

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You made the exact same, word for word, accusation at me once

Give me idiocy over arrogance any day of the week

You're only saying that because you disagree with me, and if you can't argue your case does that make me arrogant or you stupid ?.... go on I dare you, make an argument, see if you can.

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Lawyers amongst us, am I right, that if you die intestate and with no heirs, the local duke gets the estate? How much does the Prince of Wales garner each year from this?

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He travelled more than 50,000 miles to attend 658 official engagements during his 60th birthday year.

Lads a grafter, if our MP's had the same work ethic we'd have two MP's running the country. One in charge and one more to cover his holidays and sick leave.

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Are you MAD.. heres the defence.. He may have had costs of £3m paid by the taxpayer but he paid more than that in tax... in other words he cost £0.

He has a salary roll of £6.5m employing people who also pay tax.

he helped raise £130m in charitable contributions last year.

he himslef gave around £8m to charities.

the charity he founded (prince's trust) has given thousands a start in life they would not otherwise have had.

he was an environmental campaigner before most even realised such things were importnant.

he does something over 150 days work either as a de-facto ambassador for the UK or supporting charitable events for which he is not paid.

You must be totally and utterly mad if you view the royal family as offering poor value for money... being a republican is one thing but not being able to do a simple cost benefit analysis is unforgiveable... god save me from idiots.

Why not privatise the monarchy then? Then the forelock-tugging psychophants can pay what they like without the rest of us having to pay for a laughable and outmoded institution.

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Prince Charles is worth the money.

Don't like the way this country works? Don't like the Monarchy? Go and live in another country! We've all seen what happens when we get 'elected' peers. You get scores of pocket-lining scumbags in power. Save us from Nu Laba's 'democracy' - it's cronyochracy.

Thank God for our Royal Family. Sychophantic? Just because I like something doesn't make me sychophantic it just means I like it.

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[Thank God for our Royal Family. Sychophantic? Just because I like something doesn't make me sychophantic it just means I like it.

So you're not a supporter of democracy then? Why not restore the legal privileges enjoyed by dukes until some time in the late 19th century while we're at it?

The Queen has actually been a good head of state, I have to say, which is why the debate over the monarchy is low-level.

I've nothing against the Queen, it's the system that's wrong.

I certainly don't want to live in another country. I'm British through and through, I'm as British as any member of the royal family, so I think I'll stay here and argue my case!

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Cost? Cost us money? I wonder how much the Royal Family is worth to the economy each year............ Hope somebody can find the figures, it would blow this argument out of the water.

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I have argued passionately for the continued unity of the island of Great Britain as a single nation and against the independence of Scotland, Wales or even England. I haven't heard any members of the royal family doing that.

The royals used to be held up as an example to the rest of us. Then when it all went pear shaped, it was twisted that it showed they were human and fallible like the rest of us. So, what arer they FOR?

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Prince Charles is worth the money.

Don't like the way this country works? Don't like the Monarchy? Go and live in another country! We've all seen what happens when we get 'elected' peers. You get scores of pocket-lining scumbags in power. Save us from Nu Laba's 'democracy' - it's cronyochracy.

Thank God for our Royal Family. Sychophantic? Just because I like something doesn't make me sychophantic it just means I like it.

Simply having an upper chamber made up of randomly selected people might work..

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I certainly don't want to live in another country. I'm British through and through, I'm as British as any member of the royal family, so I think I'll stay here and argue my case!

So you're German then?

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Why not privatise the monarchy then? Then the forelock-tugging psychophants can pay what they like without the rest of us having to pay for a laughable and outmoded institution.

They used to be of course. A deal was struck in 1760 that instead of the monarchy supporting itself, it should turn over the revenues of the Crown Estates to the government and receive a stipend inside. The Crown Estate revenue is currently a shade under 200M pa, the civil list is currently 7.9M pa.

It seems like perhaps we are possibly getting the better end of the deal here, especially when you consider that the civil list inflation for the between 1990 and 2010 (until which the current round is set) has been 0% whilst the total CPI inflation for that period has been something around 50% (ie money is worth half what it was in 1990).

Also just to be clear, the only people who receive money from the civil list are the Queen and Prince Philip. All the other Royals are funded from the Queen's private income. This money that Charles received is not because he is a Royal, it is grants for his charities, or payments for his official duties related expenses, which he does at the request of the government.

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Prince Charles is the sort of decent person that would do the work for nothing anyway. It would be impossible for him to work without specialised security and travel arrangements.

He is a great representative for the UK.....

Bloke works hard....

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