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Don`t Dare Ask A Copper For His Number

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For example;

"The CPS decided that there was insufficent evidence or cause to continue with the prosecution and dropped the case".

Are they (the victims) likely to proceed with this , using their own money and facing no charges? , just to make a point?

Likely this will never come to light.

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The police have become nothing better than hittlers SS and half of them are wanabe trafic wardens whilst many of the good ones are foced out but hey it's ok you have to pay the hangman yourself in days gone by.

Do you think brown would pay me !

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Failure to give badge number and then false arrest and false imprisonment. The f***ers involved in this should be sacked. It's stuff like this that makes you lose all respect for police as an institution.

When you have two people behaving as well as the two women who were arrested, both before and during, and see how over the top the police react...well, nothing more to be said really.

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Failure to give badge number and then false arrest and false imprisonment. The f***ers involved in this should be sacked. It's stuff like this that makes you lose all respect for police as an institution.

When you have two people behaving as well as the two women who were arrested, both before and during, and see how over the top the police react...well, nothing more to be said really.

:angry:

This case is disgusting, no wonder so many individuals hate the police force...Who the F**k do they think they are??

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Yet nothing seems to get done and with the exception of the likes of David Davies - politicians ignore the subject (including the guy likely to be Home Secretary in a couple of years - Chris Grayling ) ...

They seem to really have it in for these climate change protesters yet to their credit the Major Government largely humoured the fledgling green movement during the early nineties with protesters like `Swampy` becoming folk heroes for a short while - which beggars the question why all the police nastiness under Labour ?

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The police have become nothing better than hittlers SS and half of them are wanabe trafic wardens whilst many of the good ones are foced out but hey it's ok you have to pay the hangman yourself in days gone by.

Do you think brown would pay me !

I believe they behave more like the soviet NKVD. They enforce socialism and punish all that disagree.

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This nation is FUBAR I'm afraid:

Take down your missing cat posters or face a £75 fine, council threatens pensioner

A pensioner was threatened with a £75 fine for putting up posters of her missing cat.

When Sarah Sear, 63, received a phone call in response she thought it would be to give her the news that her beloved Siamese Alfie had been found.

Instead the caller said he was from the council and that he would send someone round to enforce the fine for flyposting if Mrs Sear did not take down the posters.

The pensioner, from Worthing, West Sussex, was left so upset by the call that she has taken down most of the posters - reducing the chances of finding her cat.

She said yesterday: 'He said to me, "My boss will not be happy if he sees the posters".

'I was absolutely flabbergasted. At first, I thought it was a joke. I was absolutely beside myself as he was making me feel as though I had done something really terrible.'

The call from the Worthing Borough Council worker came after Mrs Sear had stuck about 20 posters on to nearby phone boxes, trees and lampposts following her cat's disappearance three weeks ago.

She added: 'I cannot understand why there was absolutely no sympathy from the man that called. Should missing pet posters really be classed as flyposting?'

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A council spokesman said: 'The council has every sympathy for the lady and understands that she is obviously distressed.

'Our employee wasn't seeking to be a " jobsworth" but just to ask her to reduce the number of posters she has displayed in the area.'

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The campaigners should be tougher in the first place, and not trying to follow the law.

Arrested for asking a policeman for his badge number

The Guardian has obtained this police footage of Emily Apple and Val Swain being arrested by surveillance officers after asking for their badge numbers at the Kingsnorth climate camp last year. The two women speak to Paul Lewis about their arrest, imprisonment and official complaint

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Those cops are scum. One day the worm will turn, and the current respect and adherence to peaceful protest will disappear. We really are no longer treated like human beings with hopes and dreams in these country. We are just resources for an economy tailored for the rich, and criminals if we dare raise our objections. It's disgraceful.

There should be a severe penalty for any policeman obscuring their identity. Nor should anyone be legally obliged to obey a policeman that obscures their identity.

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I saw a small snippet of that footage on the news today but the full story as given above is shocking. I would be looking at pressing charges for common assault as well as complaining to the IPCC and police forces in neighboring counties. Being sent to prison for taking photographs and asking a police officer for his identification number? Utterly out of order. The quicker this world of corporate commercialism is ripped down the better.

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There should be a severe penalty for any policeman obscuring their identity. Nor should anyone be legally obliged to obey a policeman that obscures their identity.

Although you are required to stop for a police officer when they ask you too you do not have to talk to them unless they have reasonable suspicion that you have committed a breach of the peace. If they do stop you I think they need to tell you why they are stopping you. If they can not give a good reason then I would simply say "Am I obliged to speak to you?" or "Am I free to go?" and nothing else other than to ask for their badge number, warrant card and business card (though I am not sure the business card is required in the UK). However, that does not stop them abusing their power as the video clearly demonstrates.

I wonder if this is all part of the plan to sow dissent in order to start civil unrest in months/years to come? Then they can call in the army to police the streets as well ("soldier, do you mind opening fire on a British Citizen?").

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This nation is FUBAR I'm afraid:

The incredible thing about stories like this is that it shows that some council and state employees, obviously products of a state education system, have totally lost their humanity somewhere along the line.

You know when socialism is working because people stop behaving like human beings anymore.......exactly as intended.

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You are not required to talk with a police officer unless they have seen you committing a breach of the peace. If they stop you for any reason other than that it is illegal. However, that does not stop them abusing their power. I wonder if this is all part of the plan to sow dissent in order to start civil unrest in years to come? Then they can call in the army to police the streets as well ("soldier, do you mind opening fire on a British Citizen?").

I got news for you mate

THEY DON'T GIVE A F*CK ABOUT YOUR RIGHTS

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The only really unusual thing about this is that it was caught on camera. Otherwise a hiding is traditional for talking back to the police.

The real story is the surveillance, and how foxed the police are by anyone turning the gaze back on them. Anyone getting in the way of state surveillance like this is doing sterling work imo.

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There should be a severe penalty for any policeman obscuring their identity. Nor should anyone be legally obliged to obey a policeman that obscures their identity.

Couldn't agree more, mate. I'm not some raving Libertarian (tho I am a bit of one) but the coppers filmed here who have clealrly hidden their identification & then attacked two women who questioned them over it should be sacked immediately.

IMMEDIATELY.

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I got news for you mate

THEY DON'T GIVE A F*CK ABOUT YOUR RIGHTS

They may not but I certainly do. Hence I would be trying to push charges against them under common law jurisdiction for assault/imprisonment (getting the judge on his oath in a court de jure of record ) rather than trying to wade through their statue law system.

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I'm going to sing my song, and it won't take long,

All coppers are barstewards...

Very popular in the 50s and 60s. I'm sure it'll come back.

I reported suspicions of fraud to the police several months ago (mortgage fraud and forgery netting over £250K and money laundering). They couldn't care less. I did some more research, and found several other cases of probable fraud committed by the same guy against other persons, by then I had a pretty good idea where the money had gone and how he'd laundered it.

Then, a month ago, I got a phone call. Did I know where this person was, now wanted for fraud? (unconnected)

Useless *****s. The bird had long flown out of reach of the law. If they had acted and investigated my complaints in the first place they could have picked him up easily, but then, that would have meant DOING something wouldn't it.

In course of my investigations I also uncovered what seems to be fraud by an Estate Agent (secretly buying a repo, and selling it for cash without placing it on the open market). Nah, they couldn't be bothered to look at that either. I bet though, if I put a brick through the estate agents window, they'd look into that.

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You know when socialism is working because people stop behaving like human beings anymore.......exactly as intended.

Police brutality has absolutely nothing to do with Socialism & everything to do with State Capitalism & protecting the rich elites interests.

Look at the history of Police Forces in the World. In Britain they were developed to give more plausible deniability for violence against the population when protecting the rights of the property owning elite. It was too obvious when the rich sent in their goon squads & private militias.

Capitalist property laws allowed the rich elites to steal & hoard all the land that nature gave freely, forcing the rest of us into economic slavery to pay rent or to buy a tiny scrap of land. And so it remains today, with better working conditions & wages, all thanks to Socialism, Unions & the Labour struggle, not Capitalism.

Suffice it to say, the Police were developed to keep Land & property out of the hands of the people & keep it in the hands of those who inherited it from those that used force to steal it originally.

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The campaigners should be tougher in the first place, and not trying to follow the law.

A bit risky when we know the police are allowed to blow your brains out without even having to say sorry afterwards.

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