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Airbus to deliver first China-made airplane

European aviation giant Airbus is set to deliver the first A320 airplane assembled at its factory in China, in a symbolic event further marking the nation's global rise.

The first plane to be made at plant in northern Tianjin, the only Airbus factory outside Europe, will be delivered to Dragon Aviation Leasing and will be flown by Sichuan Airlines, a regional Chinese air carrier.

A grand ceremony is expected to be held for the roll out, but so far Airbus has remained discreet about who has been invited to the event which will take place with no minister-level officials from Germany or France, sources said.

The plane took its first test flight last month with the first Chinese test engineer trained by Airbus.

Ten middle-distance A319/320 aircraft will be delivered by the end of the year, before the factory starts to churn out up to four planes a month before the end of 2011.

The Tianjin plant, modelled on Airbus' factory in Hamburg, Germany, has an investment of nearly 10 billion yuan (1.47 billion dollar) and went into operation in September in the presence of Prime Minister Wen Jiabao.

The joint venture factory, about 120 kilometres (72 miles) southeast of Beijing, is 51 percent owned by Airbus, subsidiary of the European group EADS, and 49 percent by a Chinese aviation consortium.

Unions raised concerns when the deal was struck, but the aviation giant insisted orders would not fall at its European plants and that it had worked to minimise technology transfers to China.

The venture has also revealed the extent that Airbus has gone to get a foot hold in one of the world's most dynamic markets.

At the inauguration Airbus chief-executive-officer Thomas Enders said the company's "new house" would become "the jump off point for the future development of Airbus in China and in the region."

China's air market, the second biggest in the world, makes up 15 percent of sales at Airbus, which sold its first plane here -- an A310 -- in 1985.

The decision to build the China plant was based on strong growth estimates that expect the nation to buy up to 2,800 passenger and transport planes over the next 20 years.

These planes, of which 190 are expected to be jumbo jets, are valued at about 329 billion dollars.

In the next two decades, passenger travel is also expected to increase five-fold, according to industry estimates.

Airbus' goal is to gain half of the China market from now until 2012, compared with a 39 percent market share in mid-2008 and up from a seven percent share in 1995. Its main rival is current global market leader Boeing (NYSE: BA - news) .

Coinciding with Tuesday's roll out, China Eastern Airlines, the nation's third largest air carrier, signed an order last week at the Le Bourget Air Show in France for 20 Airbus A320s to be delivered between 2011 and 2013.

The order is part of a deal for 160 jets -- 110 A320s and 50 A330s -- that China said it would buy in 2007 during a visit to Beijing by French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

In September, Chinese air carriers had signed agreements and memoranda for the purchase of a total of 280 planes, Airbus said.

Tuesday's delivery and the China Eastern order will be a boost for Airbus as it tries to weather the recent fatal accident of the Air France jet over the Atlantic, as well as a market still reeling from the global financial downturn.

The west's days as a manufacturing force are coming to an end. It's like Jim Rogers said, we Brits will be forced to return to farming.

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Holy sh*t :o

Every time I fly I am going to have to ask where the aircraft was made. There is no way I am getting on a plane made in China. I live in Hong Kong and all the locals would never buy any China made goods.

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Airbus to deliver first China-made airplane

The west's days as a manufacturing force are coming to an end. It's like Jim Rogers said, we Brits will be forced to return to farming.

I think I would prefer to get on a Western built Airbus / Boeing.

I am fairly confident that a western unionised bolshy aircraft factory worker is far more likely to speak up about a quality control flaw than a Chinese worker

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I think I would prefer to get on a Western built Airbus / Boeing.

I am fairly confident that a western unionised bolshy aircraft factory worker is far more likely to speak up about a quality control flaw than a Chinese worker

Hmm. I highly doubt that an industry as internationally regulated as civilian aircraft manufacture will allow for your 'Chinese flaws'.

Take a look around your house/flat and see how much of your stuff has 'made in china' stamped on it.

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Airbus to deliver first China-made airplane

The west's days as a manufacturing force are coming to an end. It's like Jim Rogers said, we Brits will be forced to return to farming.

China are good at copying, not very good with ideas, they are a nation of average sheep followers. I should know I have to deal with their engineers everyday, (oh what a chore that is!!!). The key point to note in your comments is "Manufacturing", we do the sexy designing they do the boring stuff with machines and lathes.

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Airbus to deliver first China-made airplane

The west's days as a manufacturing force are coming to an end. It's like Jim Rogers said, we Brits will be forced to return to farming.

China are good at copying, not very good with ideas, they are a nation of average sheep followers. I should know I have to deal with their engineers everyday, (oh what a chore that is!!!). The key point to note in your comments is "Manufacturing", we do the sexy designing they do the boring stuff with machines and lathes.

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Hmm. I highly doubt that an industry as internationally regulated as civilian aircraft manufacture will allow for your 'Chinese flaws'.

Take a look around your house/flat and see how much of your stuff has 'made in china' stamped on it.

It has got nothing to do with regulation. Its a cultural issue - ie getting workers to speak up. Fault finding in communist systems is often treated as sabotage!

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China are good at copying, not very good with ideas, they are a nation of average sheep followers. I should know I have to deal with their engineers everyday, (oh what a chore that is!!!). The key point to note in your comments is "Manufacturing", we do the sexy designing they do the boring stuff with machines and lathes.

Japan did exactly the same thing and look at them now. Without their innovations in the 1980's with kanban and reverse engineering we would still be making shit quality stuff globally.

To say that Chinese are not innovative is a crock of shite.

Re-invention, reverse engineering, and self investment have put them to the forefront of the world in less than a quarter century.

Britain on the other hand, is a nation of sheep, wholly dependent on their banker shepherds for sustenance. All we have left is modern alchemy, in the form of fiat money creation and manipulation; and that cat is out of the bag.

Yes, we may have some good schools, but we are falling down the global ranks at an astonishing pace.

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Airbus to deliver first China-made airplane

The west's days as a manufacturing force are coming to an end. It's like Jim Rogers said, we Brits will be forced to return to farming.

excellent - in this case the West will get the high value design and management mnoney, and the trickle down effect will allow me to spend a healthy coupld of days a week working -indeed perhaps calmly on a farm enjoying the exercise - and the rest as leisure. double excellent.

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Japan did exactly the same thing and look at them now. Without their innovations in the 1980's with kanban and reverse engineering we would still be making shit quality stuff globally.

To say that Chinese are not innovative is a crock of shite.

Re-invention, reverse engineering, and self investment have put them to the forefront of the world in less than a quarter century.

Britain on the other hand, is a nation of sheep, wholly dependent on their banker shepherds for sustenance. All we have left is modern alchemy, in the form of fiat money creation and manipulation; and that cat is out of the bag.

Yes, we may have some good schools, but we are falling down the global ranks at an astonishing pace.

Japan - democracy

China - Communist and no freedom of speech.

Innovation can only be achieved with freedom in the long run.

Can you name any Soviet invented items in mass use today? I'm sure there must be some but I don't know of any.

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Holy sh*t :o

Every time I fly I am going to have to ask where the aircraft was made. There is no way I am getting on a plane made in China. I live in Hong Kong and all the locals would never buy any China made goods.

Sure you are, and thanks very much.

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Japan - democracy

China - Communist and no freedom of speech.

Innovation can only be achieved with freedom in the long run.

Can you name any Soviet invented items in mass use today? I'm sure there must be some but I don't know of any.

the economic and the political system in this case are noit the same - China has a clear burgeoning (albeit somewhat corrupt) market economy, this element if no longer communist, even tho the politics are still largely totalitarian.

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Japan - democracy

China - Communist and no freedom of speech.

Innovation can only be achieved with freedom in the long run.

Can you name any Soviet invented items in mass use today? I'm sure there must be some but I don't know of any.

********, as is the comment another poster made about China only being good at copying. They have copying down to a fine art, you need to be pretty innovative to do that ;)

In some cases they copy, then improve. Take speakers for example, I can buy a good set of low end 2.1 HiFi speakers for around 30 pounds here. 30 pound speakers in the UK are a crock of shite, you'd be paying more like 150 there for the same quality.

Besides they also have their own products, I've seen things in China which don't exist in the West- local innovations. For example a mini DVD player with a small screen (half way between a laptop sized and mobile phone sized screen) which is simply awesome and only 90 pounds! Considering the usefulness (it can store 5 movies and has a 5 hour battery life) and low cost it beats UK innovations hands down. Admitadly the idea itself was probably inspired by the Sony PSP, but so what- most ideas are evolved from previous ones/ improved- it's how evolution works.

Innovation is all about fulfilling an existing need better than existing technology, China are doing well at that. Hell, a huge number of Western manufacturers moved all their production to China because China could produce with the same quality as the West.

You ignorant people should get your facts right before you blathely make generalisations about China's products based in what it may have made 10 years ago when it was barely beginning it's journey into high quality manufacturing.

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You ignorant people should get your facts right before you blathely make generalisations about China's products based in what it may have made 10 years ago when it was barely beginning it's journey into high quality manufacturing.

I think you are underestimating the corruption problems.

If the political system doesn't matter the USSR would not have collapsed.

Caught the end of a report yesterday on News 24 with one of the dragons doing a report from China, the people can't talk and tolls where on the roads, those with the right connections could move goods without paying.

Water is already beginning to become a major problem in China it will only get worse.

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Looks like the Frenchies are more than happy to climb into bed with the Commies...

France Backs China on Taiwan

Stupid really - Airbus is just cutting it's own throat for a short-term gain. Within 5 years the Chinese will be integrating airbus tech for military and domestic aircraft use. It's what they do - just ask the Russians.

After that the Chinese will simply undercut the west and wipe out both Airbus and Boeing..

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I think you are underestimating the corruption problems.

If the political system doesn't matter the USSR would not have collapsed.

Caught the end of a report yesterday on News 24 with one of the dragons doing a report from China, the people can't talk and tolls where on the roads, those with the right connections could move goods without paying.

Water is already beginning to become a major problem in China it will only get worse.

Indeed - environmental degredation, massive distortion of demographics (too many male children), impending military and industrial dominance...

Only one result is certain...

Bye Bye the rest of Asia..

China will march within 10 years...

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I think you are underestimating the corruption problems.

If the political system doesn't matter the USSR would not have collapsed.

Caught the end of a report yesterday on News 24 with one of the dragons doing a report from China, the people can't talk and tolls where on the roads, those with the right connections could move goods without paying.

Water is already beginning to become a major problem in China it will only get worse.

Indeed - environmental degredation, massive distortion of demographics (too many male children), impending military and industrial dominance...

Only one result is certain...

Bye Bye the rest of Asia..

China will march within 10 years...

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I think you are underestimating the corruption problems.

If the political system doesn't matter the USSR would not have collapsed.

Caught the end of a report yesterday on News 24 with one of the dragons doing a report from China, the people can't talk and tolls where on the roads, those with the right connections could move goods without paying.

Water is already beginning to become a major problem in China it will only get worse.

Indeed - environmental degredation, massive distortion of demographics (too many male children), impending military and industrial dominance...

Only one result is certain...

Bye Bye the rest of Asia..

China will march within 10 years...

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I think you are underestimating the corruption problems.

If the political system doesn't matter the USSR would not have collapsed.

Caught the end of a report yesterday on News 24 with one of the dragons doing a report from China, the people can't talk and tolls where on the roads, those with the right connections could move goods without paying.

Water is already beginning to become a major problem in China it will only get worse.

Indeed - environmental degredation, massive distortion of demographics (too many male children), impending military and industrial dominance...

Only one result is certain...

Bye Bye the rest of Asia..

China will march within 10 years...

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I think you are underestimating the corruption problems.

If the political system doesn't matter the USSR would not have collapsed.

Caught the end of a report yesterday on News 24 with one of the dragons doing a report from China, the people can't talk and tolls where on the roads, those with the right connections could move goods without paying.

Water is already beginning to become a major problem in China it will only get worse.

Indeed - environmental degredation, massive distortion of demographics (too many male children), impending military and industrial dominance...

Only one result is certain...

Bye Bye the rest of Asia..

China will march within 10 years...

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Indeed - environmental degredation, massive distortion of demographics (too many male children), impending military and industrial dominance...

The problem with the one child policy is the fact it has artificially created a demographic timebomb, much like what Europe and Russia will experience, suddenly a whole raft of people will 'retire' (or become too ill to work) and the next generation will have to support them, with dire consequences for the dependency ratio.

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