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I probably commit 3 crimes before breakfast these days.

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I shit you not, now they are talking about making disagreeing with Labour policy an actual crime! :o

http://www.labourlist.org/entrench_labour_..._law_mike_smith

The logic is flawless.

Gordon Brown is "doing the right thing"

Anyone who disagrees with him must want to do the wrong thing.

Therefore anyone who disagrees with GB is a terrorist

Q.E.D.

What's your problem with this? Shall I ask some of our boys to come round and explain it to you?

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ignore the suffering of swaths of the country in the name of economic efficiency

so they think that inefficiency = improved quality of life

this is pretty worrying, I only wish the GE could come sooner

having said that, Mandy is a moderate chap and seems to have managed to get in the way of the worst silly excesses of the Broon govt since he's been back in the cabinet, so I suspect this won't happen.

it does show how blatantly thick many of the grass roots of the labour party are tho.

"improve the NHS thru inefficiency". err, yeah, right.

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So they're going to entrench the following into law :-

- Outlawing 'Climate Change' thus preventing the building of anything, including housing estates or power stations to produce cheap juice and so on.

- Outlawing 'Relative Child Poverty' thus necessitating the building of decent new homes, schools all supplied with cheap energy.

Labour policy at the best of times is a conflicted, unachievable mess but they think they can propose putting this contradictory doublethink crap into statue? Also, Labour has had 12 years and they've failed in all their aims, they've failed "their people" worst of all, so they think leaving their failings in the Tory "to do" tray is somehow inspired? It's pathetic.

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No they're not. They're talking about setting minimum standards for public services so any future Government would have to adhere to them or change the law.

Oh right, kind of like targets, so faced with breaking not only their targets but the law the govt will just give a quiet nudge nudge wink wink to hospital managers when they leave patients waiting in the car park, along with all the other crafty dodges that make a mockery out of 'best practice'.

This is basically a shitty public sector version of wage and price controls, trying to outlaw the symptoms whilst ignoring the underlying cause.

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Oh right, kind of like targets, so faced with breaking not only their targets but the law the govt will just give a quiet nudge nudge wink wink to hospital managers when they leave patients waiting in the car park, along with all the other crafty dodges that make a mockery out of 'best practice'.

This is basically a shitty public sector version of wage and price controls, trying to outlaw the symptoms and not the cause.

It's a simple challenge to the next Government that if they want to cut public services they will have to get a statute through. Basically forcing the Tories to pass unpopular legislation in order to cut services.

Judging by the reaction to this idea, they could scrap the library services for a start because no fecker bothers to read anything but the cover.

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It's a simple challenge to the next Government that if they want to cut public services they will have to get a statute through. Basically forcing the Tories to pass unpopular legislation in order to cut services.

Judging by the reaction to this idea, they could scrap the library services for a start because no fecker bothers to read anything but the cover.

"Necessity knows no law."

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It's a simple challenge to the next Government that if they want to cut public services they will have to get a statute through. Basically forcing the Tories to pass unpopular legislation in order to cut services.

It's pointless, you cannot tie the hands of the next Parliament in such a manner, if a new government comes in and mucks up then they pay the price at the ballot box (just as Labour are doing) and the problem is self-correcting. That's how it works.

It doesn't matter who's in power in 10-15 years because the NHS will be toast by then anyway, regardless of the best of intentions, the present uncontrolled deficit spending and ballooning national debt will make sure of that when combined with the head on impact of the demographic time bomb. What remains of the NHS will simply be some means tested health insurance scheme and an A&E provider, the rest will be in private hands, back in the PFI investors hands.

If they set things in statute it will simply be ignored and laughed at, like half legendary bylaws that allow you to shoot errant Welshmen found inside of the city walls after midnight.

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labour list is interesting, almost every poster on the site violently disagrees with every article....

Because after the Dolly Draper Smeargate all the Socialist where too ashamed to stay, only Torys comment there now.

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If Labour could shift the ‘centre ground’ of political debate left, the Tories could never again starve the NHS and education of funding, ignore the suffering of swaths of the country in the name of economic efficiency and abandon the most vulnerable.

These Labour people are delusional. Labour has betrayed its core vote of the British working classes by allowing weak employment laws, rampant overseas outsourcing and the unrestricted immigration of cheap foreign labour to either damage or destroy the livelihoods of millions - all in the name of economic efficiency. They are traitors and hypocrites and taxpayer-robbing criminals.

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They need to pass a law to support the housing market.

Make it illegal to pay less for a house than it was previously sold for. This would instantly turn all UK mortgages into prime loans backed by solid assets.

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Because after the Dolly Draper Smeargate all the Socialist where too ashamed to stay, only Torys comment there now.

If you like it so much why don't you go and post there. Or have the "tory" posters formed a virtual picket line?

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