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At least Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has some sense, after all, he is a PhD civil engineer. We can't say much for our tool of a PM with his Scottish history degree and no real work experience.

Of course the MSM love to roast him, as anybody who does not buy into the American dream is demonized.

The real devils are the Imam's, but that is another story altogether.

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Sounds like it's all kicking off today! :blink:

Panic on the streets of Tehran. Outside mass protests. Between 50-100 dead. Police on motorcycles beating people as drive by; attacking women.
For the moment, facebook is just blocked right now. I am in Elahieh neighbourhood. I hear shooting right now I am writing. the shootings were far away. 12:51 noon Eastern US.
Dispatch: Chaos in the streets of Tehran. Stuck for an hour in a riot near the Ministry of the Interior. Police & Basij beating protesters.
all sms and txt messaging is still down in tehran
French TV pulls out of Iran, scared, terrified, after being roughed up.
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Sounds like it's all kicking off today! :blink:

Well, with the hundreds of millions of dollars that America has spent on destabilizing the political system there it's no wonder.

Why can't the people of Britain have the stones to demonstrate against Gordon Brown's government with such gusto.

Despair.

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Sorry but did anyone expect any other result to the election in Iran.

I don't know whether the result has been fixed but it wouldn't be a surprise, nobody will ever know unlike Zimbabwe the hardliners in Iran do not care about international opinion and they are a nuclear power.

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the iranian results are disappointing.

i think the general consensus was that the voting was rigged.

very dissapointing.

bogus amerian president, bogus british prime minister, bogus iranian dude, is anyone real? putin is a fake to isnt he? the french guy seems real enough.

vive l'emporer

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Some reckon that Putin is the richest man in the world...

But if we are going to choose a world leader to talk about, I propose Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi because he has some wild orgies. My kind of corrupt leader!

Oh, Putin too, he wrestles bears.

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the iranian results are disappointing.

i think the general consensus was that the voting was rigged.

very dissapointing.

bogus amerian president, bogus british prime minister, bogus iranian dude, is anyone real? putin is a fake to isnt he? the french guy seems real enough.

vive l'emporer

Kim is real.

North-Korean-leader-Kim-Jong-Il.jpg

Real fooking mad that is!

North Korea declares all-out push for nuclear weapons

Regime retaliates against fresh UN sanctions yesterday by announcing it will turn all its plutonium into bomb material

Ewen MacAskill in Washington and agencies

guardian.co.uk, Saturday 13 June 2009 11.42 BST

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/1...eapon-plutonium

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Armoured dinner jacket certainly has some odd beliefs. He is apparently one of the last 'nails' who will help the 12th Iman return to power. This will be achieved by a war against the west.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/persona...nts-a-bomb.html

Last Monday, just before he announced that Iran had gatecrashed "the nuclear club", President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad disappeared for several hours. He was having a khalvat (tête-à-tête) with the Hidden Imam, the 12th and last of the imams of Shiism who went into "grand occultation" in 941.

According to Shia lore, the Imam is a messianic figure who, although in hiding, remains the true Sovereign of the World. In every generation, the Imam chooses 36 men, (and, for obvious reasons, no women) naming them the owtad or "nails", whose presence, hammered into mankind's existence, prevents the universe from "falling off". Although the "nails" are not known to common mortals, it is, at times, possible to identify one thanks to his deeds. It is on that basis that some of Ahmad-inejad's more passionate admirers insist that he is a "nail", a claim he has not discouraged. For example, he has claimed that last September, as he addressed the United Nations' General Assembly in New York, the "Hidden Imam drenched the place in a sweet light".

Last year, it was after another khalvat that Ahmadinejad announced his intention to stand for president. Now, he boasts that the Imam gave him the presidency for a single task: provoking a "clash of civilisations" in which the Muslim world, led by Iran, takes on the "infidel" West, led by the United States, and defeats it in a slow but prolonged contest that, in military jargon, sounds like a low intensity, asymmetrical war.

In Ahmadinejad's analysis, the rising Islamic "superpower" has decisive advantages over the infidel. Islam has four times as many young men of fighting age as the West, with its ageing populations. Hundreds of millions of Muslim "ghazis" (holy raiders) are keen to become martyrs while the infidel youths, loving life and fearing death, hate to fight. Islam also has four-fifths of the world's oil reserves, and so controls the lifeblood of the infidel. More importantly, the US, the only infidel power still capable of fighting, is hated by most other nations.

According to this analysis, spelled out in commentaries by Ahmadinejad's strategic guru, Hassan Abassi, known as the "Dr Kissinger of Islam", President George W Bush is an aberration, an exception to a rule under which all American presidents since Truman, when faced with serious setbacks abroad, have "run away". Iran's current strategy, therefore, is to wait Bush out. And that, by "divine coincidence", corresponds to the time Iran needs to develop its nuclear arsenal, thus matching the only advantage that the infidel enjoys.

Moments after Ahmadinejad announced "the atomic miracle", the head of the Iranian nuclear project, Ghulamreza Aghazadeh, unveiled plans for manufacturing 54,000 centrifuges, to enrich enough uranium for hundreds of nuclear warheads. "We are going into mass production," he boasted.

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Armoured dinner jacket certainly has some odd beliefs. He is apparently one of the last 'nails' who will help the 12th Iman return to power. This will be achieved by a war against the west.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/persona...nts-a-bomb.html

Last Monday, just before he announced that Iran had gatecrashed "the nuclear club", President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad disappeared for several hours. He was having a khalvat (tête-à-tête) with the Hidden Imam, the 12th and last of the imams of Shiism who went into "grand occultation" in 941.

According to Shia lore, the Imam is a messianic figure who, although in hiding, remains the true Sovereign of the World. In every generation, the Imam chooses 36 men, (and, for obvious reasons, no women) naming them the owtad or "nails", whose presence, hammered into mankind's existence, prevents the universe from "falling off". Although the "nails" are not known to common mortals, it is, at times, possible to identify one thanks to his deeds. It is on that basis that some of Ahmad-inejad's more passionate admirers insist that he is a "nail", a claim he has not discouraged. For example, he has claimed that last September, as he addressed the United Nations' General Assembly in New York, the "Hidden Imam drenched the place in a sweet light".

Last year, it was after another khalvat that Ahmadinejad announced his intention to stand for president. Now, he boasts that the Imam gave him the presidency for a single task: provoking a "clash of civilisations" in which the Muslim world, led by Iran, takes on the "infidel" West, led by the United States, and defeats it in a slow but prolonged contest that, in military jargon, sounds like a low intensity, asymmetrical war.

In Ahmadinejad's analysis, the rising Islamic "superpower" has decisive advantages over the infidel. Islam has four times as many young men of fighting age as the West, with its ageing populations. Hundreds of millions of Muslim "ghazis" (holy raiders) are keen to become martyrs while the infidel youths, loving life and fearing death, hate to fight. Islam also has four-fifths of the world's oil reserves, and so controls the lifeblood of the infidel. More importantly, the US, the only infidel power still capable of fighting, is hated by most other nations.

According to this analysis, spelled out in commentaries by Ahmadinejad's strategic guru, Hassan Abassi, known as the "Dr Kissinger of Islam", President George W Bush is an aberration, an exception to a rule under which all American presidents since Truman, when faced with serious setbacks abroad, have "run away". Iran's current strategy, therefore, is to wait Bush out. And that, by "divine coincidence", corresponds to the time Iran needs to develop its nuclear arsenal, thus matching the only advantage that the infidel enjoys.

Moments after Ahmadinejad announced "the atomic miracle", the head of the Iranian nuclear project, Ghulamreza Aghazadeh, unveiled plans for manufacturing 54,000 centrifuges, to enrich enough uranium for hundreds of nuclear warheads. "We are going into mass production," he boasted.

Shocking. We may see tactical nuke strikes on Iran much sooner than I thought if this stuff is true.

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Shocking. We may see tactical nuke strikes on Iran much sooner than I thought if this stuff is true.

I wouldn't say that was the case.

America has a lot more problems within it's own borders to attend to, and besides, the people are tired of war and being lied to after Iraq and Afghanistan. Nuclear strikes are not an option for any nation infact. Besides, Iran is a paper tiger, and they have seen what happens when America wants to rain a decades worth of cruise missiles and precision laser guided munitions onto Iraq.

America can do more damage by stoking the fires of political dissent from afar by funding Iranian radicals and splinter groups.

Besides, getting Iran on line would do wonders for the petro majors and all their political pals.

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If it can work there...............it could work here.

Mandy already on the case!

Mike

:) The good news is that, with all Blair's electronic and postal voting plans dumped, it's really hard to see how it could happen here.

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At least Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has some sense, after all, he is a PhD civil engineer. We can't say much for our tool of a PM with his Scottish history degree and no real work experience.

Of course the MSM love to roast him, as anybody who does not buy into the American dream is demonized.

The real devils are the Imam's, but that is another story altogether.

I have a rather queazy feeling you are right.

angela merkel is alleged to be a PhD physicist

wen jaoubou is a masters in electrical engineering

gordon's 2:1 in slap-dash history doesn't seem like much of a match to me.

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I wouldn't say that was the case.

I was thinking more of Israeli nuke strikes.

Breaking News: Israel Says Iran Election Results Raise Nuclear Threat

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-06-13-voa17.cfm

Israel Says Iran Election Results Raise Nuclear Threat

By Robert Berger

Jerusalem

13 June 2009

Israel is concerned about the re-election of hardline Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, saying it will increase regional tensions and instability.

Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon issued a statement saying the election results show that Iran will continue its quest for nuclear weapons.

He said that if there was "any shred of hope for change in Iran," the election demonstrates the increasing Iranian threat. Ayalon urged the international community to take tougher action to stop Iran's nuclear program and said there should be no dialogue with the Islamic Republic.

That seemed to be a clear reference to U.S. President Barack Obama's plan to open talks with Iran.

Israeli analyst Dore Gold says so far, Iran has used negotiations with the West to buy more time to build the atom bomb.

"When push comes to shove the Iranians know that they can complete their program and the West is not likely to do anything about it," said Gold. "And in the meantime, the Iranian program is going full steam ahead."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has threatened to wipe the Jewish state "off the map," so his re-election increases the likelihood of an Israeli pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear facilities.

"Israel cannot allow Iran to acquire an operational nuclear capability, and I think Israeli leaders have made that point repeatedly," said Gold.

Israel says time is running out. Military intelligence says Iran could acquire the materials and technology to make a nuclear bomb by the end of the year.

While the United States and Israel believe Iran is developing nuclear weapons, Mr. Ahmadinejad has repeatedly said Iran's nuclear program is peaceful and is aimed at generating electricity for the people of Iran. He has insisted that nothing will stop Iran's nuclear research.

What if dinnerjacket has no intentions of coming on side? He might just be playing along to buy more time.

Revealed: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle1290331.ece

Pentagon Official Warns of Israeli Attack on Iran

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/US/story?id...1043&page=1

Exclusive: Iran Nuclear Bomb Could Be Possible by 2009

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/0...sive_iran_.html

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Yep, we've seen Israel's 'proportionate responses' so I have little doubt that if the Iranian's came close to being able to take out Israel they would get whacked

no doubt about it.

however the real world does not rely on military dominance to make the wheels go round.

if such an event were to happen isreal and te US would both have to suffer trade embargo's.

A pretty powerful weapon in the global village.

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