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I have flicked through the threads in the past few days and it is possible this may be a duplicate thread, if so I apologise in advance.

Today (Friday), is the end of my working week. I am fortunate enough, that I have never really worked weekends and this weekend is of no exception. Each Thursday, I set aside a sum of money, for purchasing 100 cigarettes, that both Wife and I will smoke this weekend. I visit my local Sainsbury's and see what offers are on for a box of beer and we then make plans for the weekend. I think £150 - £200 is enough for our needs and I am aware that is far more than those on benefits spend in a whole week, possibly. Although I dont feel bad as I work hard for my money.

Sometimes we stay at home if the weather is kind and do the garden, other times we make the trip down the M61 & around the M60 to the Trafford Center, where we will look and sometime buy things for the house we dont really need. After we go for dinner in Manchester and drive back, way of the DVD shop and pick up a latest release and usually relax until the early hours smoking and drinking on a full stomach, watching DVDs and drinking rather too may units of alcohol.

When in Thailand, I usually finish a little earlier as the working week is geared up towards working in the morning, while spending time with my Wife's Thai family and sometime we follow a similar routine there.

What struck me today, while I was working out my recreation budget was, just how fortunate I was. I have a nice life and I wouldnt want to trade it for anything. I own my own home outright and have no debts, hence my username on hpc.

The weather in Preston, pickup this afternoon and I decided to take a walk, thinking of the projects I have just finished and looking forward to a relaxed day tomorrow. On my walk I passed a man at the end of my street. I have seen this man a few times over the years. His hair is knotted and dirty, his clothes are torn and his beard is long and unkept. To my limited knowledge, I can only assume he sleeps underneath a nearby railway bridge. He knows no one will bother him or disturb him there and he is of no obvious threat to anyone.

As he passed me, I stared at him, not in disgust, but just to see the features of his face, to see what his eye were telling me. He looked content, certainly not in any distress and not happy either. He was just walking past me, without care in the world.

When we come on this forum and debate (sometime strongly) about the house prices, we do so in relative priviledge and comfort. Buy to let landlord being so called, scum and is it the right time to buy. It may be worth sparing a thought to a man/women who maybe in the process of being repossesed or evicted from what is their home. They may own it, they may rent it or stay with parents. What is certain is whatever they do in life, whatever their line of work, colour of skin, religion and so on, it is a place they belong, it is their home.

My advise to anyone thinking of dipping there toe in the property market, is only buy a property or rent somewhere affordable and I dont just mean, you can do it at a stretch, I mean really affordable. Afterall you really wouldnt want to be homeless and lose everything.

As the man on my street taught me today, it isnt the end of the world but I bet it takes some getting used to.

Edited by debt-free

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Just messin wid ya....

They're nice sentiments, and you're quite right. Too many of us whine when compared to many, we have nothing really to whine about.

As to the homeless it has always puzzled me how that can happen in the UK, where if you can't get a council house you get put up in a B&B.... don't you?

I assumed that those I have seen sleeping rough did so (partly) through choice.... by that I mean that they're refused local authority help? Or have I missed something?

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Just messin wid ya....

They're nice sentiments, and you're quite right. Too many of us whine when compared to many, we have nothing really to whine about.

As to the homeless it has always puzzled me how that can happen in the UK, where if you can't get a council house you get put up in a B&B.... don't you?

I assumed that those I have seen sleeping rough did so (partly) through choice.... by that I mean that they're refused local authority help? Or have I missed something?

Good to see your still around Dubai. ;)

I take you point about whacky backy, I just wanted to reflect that, I have never been homeless or met anyone who has been homeless. I can relate in my own selfish way, because when I have a late flight on holiday, but I have to still checkout of the hotel at say 12pm. I often feel like, what do I do now ? Where do I put my suitcases ?

I know its not the same, but I think the feelings may be. It could be a sense of just not knowing what to do. A feeling of being apart from the rest of society.

Imagine being sat under a bridge, you have no yellow pages, no internet to draw upon. Even the housing office maybe a 5 miles or more to get to. Then add that to mental illness or a dimished self esteem and apathy and I think you may just be scratching the surface.

I dont think it is a case of not getting help, because it doesnt exist. I think it is a case of not be able access the help available.

Anyway, I am off to smoke a CIGARETTE (whacky free) and off to bed. night all.

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Good to see your still around Dubai. ;)

I take you point about whacky backy, I just wanted to reflect that, I have never been homeless or met anyone who has been homeless. I can relate in my own selfish way, because when I have a late flight on holiday, but I have to still checkout of the hotel at say 12pm. I often feel like, what do I do now ? Where do I put my suitcases ?

I know its not the same, but I think the feelings may be. It could be a sense of just not knowing what to do. A feeling of being apart from the rest of society.

Imagine being sat under a bridge, you have no yellow pages, no internet to draw upon. Even the housing office maybe a 5 miles or more to get to. Then add that to mental illness or a dimished self esteem and apathy and I think you may just be scratching the surface.

I dont think it is a case of not getting help, because it doesnt exist. I think it is a case of not be able access the help available.

Anyway, I am off to smoke a CIGARETTE (whacky free) and off to bed. night all.

Look on the bright side.... no internet, no mobile, no mortgage, no council tax, no utility bills, nobody nagging you, no responsibility, footloose and fancy free.... where do I sign??

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In most , if not all areas, there is a long waiting list for council or social housing. If they do not have a local connection (i.e. lived/worked in the aree for years) they will be a long way down the housing list.

Most people are not in this situation by choice. They may be mentally ill, physically unable to work, ex-cons, junkies, or simply bankrupt. They will each have their own story.

One thing to remember, though.

No matter how secure you think you are, all that seperates you from them is the toss of a coin, a turn of a card.

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One thing to remember, though.

No matter how secure you think you are, all that seperates you from them is the toss of a coin, a turn of a card.

Isn't that the Truth!

Quite a frightening thought.... and one which leads me to the conclusion that the only thing really worth pursuing is peace of mind.....

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As to the homeless it has always puzzled me how that can happen in the UK, where if you can't get a council house you get put up in a B&B.... don't you?

Theory != practice.

You'll get means-tested. If you don't have kiddies, they'll assume you can rent somewhere for ... whatever is the going rate. Last I knew of it (2005 I think), that was £35/week.

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