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Brown To Propose Proportional Representation: Massive Uturn

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it's all so obvious!!

he knows first past the post will obliterate him/NuLabour,so he's just playing for scraps.

Pathetic.

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So he wants a Parliament full of single issue nutters (sorry HPC!) and extremists, with routine hung Parliaments and cabals of endlessly shifting coalitions and king makers. And when something goes wrong they just point fingers at each other because ultimately no single party is actually running the country.

We just need a general election, let a fresh Parliament decide future reforms.

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he knows first past the post will obliterate him/NuLabour,so he's just playing for scraps.

Pathetic.

He's bullied the Labour party into submission by buying them off with gerrymandering of the electoral system?

Me thinks the anti-fascist people need to start protesting outside Number 10 too.

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The mans a psychopath

Unwanted by the electorate, bullying his party and surrounding himself with unelected sycophants....

.....and now he's changing the rules.

Truly terrifying now.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8092235.stm

Of course, there's more chance of a hung Parliament with proportional representation and it would avoid the likely complete wipe-out of the NuLabour species.

"In his statement, Mr Brown will say there would have to be a referendum before any change could be made to the voting system"

Oh the old referendum :lol:

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The anger directed at Parliament is nothing to do with the voting system, talk about twisting events to suit your own agenda! The public just want honest people in public life, they want a fresh Parliament, the present one has run its course, lost support of the public and has no moral authority left to govern the country. We want a purge of the old, tired and corrupt MP's, we don't want a PM that uses patronage to appoint unelected Lords to the cabinet, and we don't want the same old tainted sleaze ridden people reappointed to ministerial positions.

You cannot just rig the electoral system because you think you're going to lose under the old system. Mugabe must be laughing his f***king head off, first we follow his inspired policy of printing money out of thin air, next we're going in for some of his voting reforms.

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Now that's desparation! As ever, when the going gets tough the little ******* changes the rules.

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Brown's a qunt.

That being said, proportional representation is much better isn't it? Get more parties outside the big 3 involved and more fairly reflect what the country think. Rather than a bunch of red or blue deciding everything -- coz that's worked really well from maggie through to crash.

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Brown's a qunt.

That being said, proportional representation is much better isn't it? Get more parties outside the big 3 involved and more fairly reflect what the country think. Rather than a bunch of red or blue deciding everything -- coz that's worked really well from maggie through to crash.

Err... to be honest Italy or the recent euro elections isn't exactly the best advert for PR.

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I like PR , it was the main reason to vote Lib Dem. Anyone got an example of the 2005 General election under

PR ?

Edit: to anwser my own question

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http://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/article.php?id=60

Odd they waited 12 years and are now considering it.

"We are committed to a referendum on the voting system for the House of Commons. An independent commission on voting systems will be appointed early to recommend a proportional alternative to the first-past-the-post system. "

1997 Labour Party Manifesto

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One minister told the BBC there was a "strong feeling" in cabinet that there should be a "bold programme of reform".

Theres a strong feeling that they would have done better just staying in bed and not getting up for work, ever again.

Isnt this where the governemnt changes the voting system so that Brown id prime minister for life.

Is Robert Mugabe on the cabinet? or advising?

I cant understand how they can open thir mouths and say anything where there isn't a sould on the planet that wants them anymore.

EDIT - i dont know why i bother typing, nothing ever makes any sense. wish i could spell, id turn Gordon Brown into a pile of shiit.

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Actually, IMO, there's a real risk of Labour doing something useful if they propose this and it goes through. As much as I hate Labour and Brown, surely proportional representation is better than the current system where someone who gets 25% (or whatever) of the total vote can have a majority in parliament?

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Theres a strong feeling that they would have done better just staying in bed and not getting up for work, ever again.

Isnt this where the governemnt changes the voting system so that Brown id prime minister for life.

Either that or Brown was looking out of the windows of Parliament today at the BNP scrum and thought to himself, "wouldn't it be nice if those people were inside here".

Brown is going scorched earth by ensuring the country will be ungovernable.

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So having sunk to an historic low in the polls and facing electoral meltdown, the crypto-Stalinist, Gordon Brown, now intends to change the voting system whereby Westminster MPs are elected, no doubt with the intention of improving his dismal party's showing in the next general election.

Is this increasingly deranged creep a real danger to democracy in this country, an incompetent buffoon, or a combination of the two?

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Should be careful what they wish for.

UKIP, Greens, BNP et al could take over. More people could move over to marginal parties being thoroughly pee'd off with the three main parties knowing that they would more likely get some sort of representation than from the others.

The public will know damn well the only reason Gordo is keen on it now is that the Nu fascists would be wiped out at the next election.

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