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i think alot of them have been brainwashed by the media

it's a hatchet job on the BNP , but their popularity keeps increasing because more and more people want Britain back!

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But it's just a conspriacy to say they will be banned like vans block if they continue to gain suport cus we live in a democracy don't we :lol:

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But it's just a conspriacy to say they will be banned like vans block if they continue to gain suport cus we live in a democracy don't we :lol:

No, we don't live in a democracy, which is why the BNP are so dangerous.

labour and the tories might be evil human farmers but they don't want to stick a third of the population on a ferry and enact lunatic social policies that would see everyone elses living standards drop to the level of the 17th Century.

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No, we don't live in a democracy, which is why the BNP are so dangerous.

labour and the tories might be evil human farmers but they don't want to stick a third of the population on a ferry and enact lunatic social policies that would see everyone elses living standards drop to the level of the 17th Century.

You do realise this is just in your imagination, don't you? :blink:

Actual BNP policy involves deporting NO British citizens at all, regardless of race or skin colour. In fact only illegal immigrants would be actively deported by a BNP government, although a lot of Eastern Europeans would lose the right to work without a work permit and choose to leave.

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a BNP government

That's the scariest thing I've read for quite some time.

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You do realise this is just in your imagination, don't you? :blink:

Actual BNP policy involves deporting NO British citizens at all, regardless of race or skin colour. In fact only illegal immigrants would be actively deported by a BNP government, although a lot of Eastern Europeans would lose the right to work without a work permit and choose to leave.

Was labours war in Iraq in the manifesto?

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Can I ask have the BNP got seats via actually getting more votes at the ballot box or because the same number voted for them as last time, but because the turnout was so low there % increased.

Not found any hard stats on this yet, just % which currently are meaningless.

The bnp got less votes this time, they benefited from the voters of the main political parties staying away.

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The bnp got less votes this time, they benefited from the voters of the main political parties staying away.

The BNP are filling a void created by ten years of a Labour Government that see's all citizens as enemies of the state. Labour see nationalist pride as something to be discouraged, and refuse to respect British Culture and the institutions that cement that culture together.

Many British people now feel they are strangers in their own lands, they are treated by the current Government with utter contempt when it comes to taxation, public services, and many other areas, immigration is just the tip of the iceburg.

Mainstream parties can either recognise that a they have witnessed a shot over the bows, or they can continue to turn a deaf ear to the democracy and the wishes of the public and then face the consequences of a right wing extreme organisation getting a foothold in the corridors of power.

Lets hope they wake up to this clear message and start showing some respect for the working classes who are the ones hit hardest during this economic and political turmoil. The answer is simple, we need a general election so the people can have their say on who runs this nation.

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The BNP are filling a void created by ten years of a Labour Government that see's all citizens as enemies of the state. Labour see nationalist pride as something to be discouraged, and refuse to respect British Culture and the institutions that cement that culture together.

Many British people now feel they are strangers in their own lands, they are treated by the current Government with utter contempt when it comes to taxation, public services, and many other areas, immigration is just the tip of the iceburg.

Mainstream parties can either recognise that a they have witnessed a shot over the bows, or they can continue to turn a deaf ear to the democracy and the wishes of the public and then face the consequences of a right wing extreme organisation getting a foothold in the corridors of power.

Lets hope they wake up to this clear message and start showing some respect for the working classes who are the ones hit hardest during this economic and political turmoil. The answer is simple, we need a general election so the people can have their say on who runs this nation.

Totally agree. Point is that Gorgon will NOT relinquish his hold on power, without a fight. I foresee some strange events about to unfold, as HE - the b**tard - is imposing his will on the people. It seems to have slipped his mind that he is a representative of the people - Not - as he imagines - the Great Panjandrum. <_<

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Totally agree. Point is that Gorgon will NOT relinquish his hold on power, without a fight. I foresee some strange events about to unfold, as HE - the b**tard - is imposing his will on the people. It seems to have slipped his mind that he is a representative of the people - Not - as he imagines - the Great Panjandrum. <_<

I've never heard a woman's furry front bottom called that before.... :unsure:

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fook me, never heard him say that one Bardon.

Says it all really.

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Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional Leaders on Capitol Hill

Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET

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GEORGE W. BUSH: ... If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.

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Totally agree. Point is that Gorgon will NOT relinquish his hold on power, without a fight. I foresee some strange events about to unfold, as HE - the b**tard - is imposing his will on the people. It seems to have slipped his mind that he is a representative of the people - Not - as he imagines - the Great Panjandrum. <_<

That fact that not one, but six member of his cabinet have resigned it would be clear to most right thinking people that six people cannot be wrong.

Brown in my view is in fact mentally ill, he has some very bad personal habits that are symptomatic with mental illness and its going to take someone in Government to have the courage to invoke extraordianary powers to remove this sick man from office.

As each day goes by he becomes more and more like a scared rat in a corner, he is now unpredictable. The party has lost its leadership, its in turmoil at a time when the nation can least afford it. Some very bad decisions have been made by Brown over the past year, its time for parliament to go to the nation and ask for their opinion. If the people are denied their say, then things will only get worse, and Brown is not prepared to handle any more crisis, and neither is the country.

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No, we don't live in a democracy, which is why the BNP are so dangerous.

labour and the tories might be evil human farmers but they don't want to stick a third of the population on a ferry and enact lunatic social policies that would see everyone elses living standards drop to the level of the 17th Century.

fool, its immigration thats responsible for a drop in living standards and wages,

its Islam trying to drag us back to the 17th century or earlier,

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And that is why the mainstream parties (especially Labour) will continue in their "we know whats best for you" attitude to politics, precisley because they believe that will never happen - and that these sorts of 'freak' voter actions wont be replicated in the only election they think really matters, the general election .........until of course they do!

I have spoken to many party political activists and MPs over time, across the spectrum, and as stated above, they simply "do not get it!". They do not grasp the concept that they get voted out because the great unwashed masses (i.e citizenry) just plain dont agree with their worldview and how the world should be run. It is also in large part because, mostly, they do not have a 'Plan B' or the simple ability to consider/think of alternative approaches to socio-economic issues, i.e what do we do if A doesnt work?. They just keep pushing on with the same failed experiments, believing that A did not work because they somehow did not implement it properly - or worse, that they failed to sufficiently convince the public of its merits.

To the modern labour politician none of their ideas is bad, it is just that the public dont understand them.

They cannot grasp the concept that IF an idea is broadly thought of as good, then the public wont need endless brainwashing to be made to think it is good - the idea will sell itself.

They believe ID cards are a good idea- the public does not.

They believe a war is necessary - the public does not.

The list is almost endless.

In each case we need to be educated as to why they are good for us.

At the same time they patronise us with soundbites, telling us humbly how "we need to listen more to the public", with no intention of doing any such thing. Everytime a party suffers a bad result we get told that they are "going to listen" to what we have to say - and they really believe that we are stupid enough to fall for this simplistic brush off.

The end result of practising politics in this manner is that, over time, you end up disenfranchising vast swathes of the public - and people will walk over to listen to whoever claims to be on your side and understand your problems.

Interesting post. Thanks for posting it. It confirms what I've long believed (not having had the opporunity to speak with any party political activists or MPs).

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Quite ironic that this thread has gone the same way as all the others.

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It seems that those who are anti BNP are the ones behaving like facists.

I didn't vote BNP (I voted UKIP), but, while waiting for the results come in on Sky News last night, I had to laugh at the lentil-munching happy-clappy anti-fascists, who were standing outside Manchester Town Hall, spreading their message of love and peace by ... violent conduct, egg hurling and car-window smashing! Idiots like that only serve to make the BNP look civilised.

We live in a democracy, where people of all political persuasions - whether that be the BNP at one end of the spectrum, or Scargill's Socialist Labour Party at the other - are allowed a peaceful platform, which means not behaving like last night's anti-BNP demonstrators. If either Labour or the Tories were doing their job properly, and were addressing issues that caused concern (like the continuing and unlimited immigration during a time of increasing unemployment), then parties like the BNP would be little more than fringe cults that no-one took any notice of. But because the main parties are so inept, is it any wonder that many people, most of whom are not shaven-headed neo-nazis, are backing parties like the BNP?

If you disagree with the BNP, then deal with them through democracy and intellectual argument - not by window smashing and name calling.

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Can I ask have the BNP got seats via actually getting more votes at the ballot box or because the same number voted for them as last time, but because the turnout was so low there % increased.

Not found any hard stats on this yet, just % which currently are meaningless.

I heard on the BBC that this got less votes (few thousand less overall) but because the turnout was low it represented a high proportion of the overall vote.

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That's the scariest thing I've read for quite some time.

There is a very long way to go before that happens.

They've got 2 MEPs. Let's not get crazy about this.

In many ways they are better in the democratic system, than outside it doing a Timothy McVeigh to express their grievances.

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OK, I've had a busy weekend and I've not read many of the threads, but if the EU elections are being discussed surely the BNP are going to be discussed too, especially as they won two seats! That's extraordinary is it not?

Two seats? so why no Green party thread? Or SNP?

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I didn't vote BNP (I voted UKIP), but, while waiting for the results come in on Sky News last night, I had to laugh at the lentil-munching happy-clappy anti-fascists, who were standing outside Manchester Town Hall, spreading their message of love and peace by ... violent conduct, egg hurling and car-window smashing! Idiots like that only serve to make the BNP look civilised.

We live in a democracy, where people of all political persuasions - whether that be the BNP at one end of the spectrum, or Scargill's Socialist Labour Party at the other - are allowed a peaceful platform, which means not behaving like last night's anti-BNP demonstrators. If either Labour or the Tories were doing their job properly, and were addressing issues that caused concern (like the continuing and unlimited immigration during a time of increasing unemployment), then parties like the BNP would be little more than fringe cults that no-one took any notice of. But because the main parties are so inept, is it any wonder that many people, most of whom are not shaven-headed neo-nazis, are backing parties like the BNP?

If you disagree with the BNP, then deal with them through democracy and intellectual argument - not by window smashing and name calling.

Well said! I have always noted that the most insulting people on any forum, are the self-professed 'liberals'. Obviously in denial about their true inclinations. :rolleyes:

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Well said! I have always noted that the most insulting people on any forum, are the self-professed 'liberals'. Obviously in denial about their true inclinations. :rolleyes:

Indeed. I was amused at the hypocrisy of them protesting against the BNP results.

These so called liberals were simply protesting against democracy. Yet they are too blinkered to understand this simple point.

I don't vote for the BNP - but if someone else does ? Up to them.

The actions of the other canditates was even more childish. Walking out when Griffen made his speech ?! To be fair he came out of it very well. Pointed out that the others were turning their back's on what the voters wanted. You cannot really argue with that one. Even if you can argue with many of the BNP's policies.

The liberals are making themselves look like childish idiots. Yet they can't see it because of this nanny state we have become. They think they are right. And they think this gives them the right to protest against the very thing they are supposed to be standing up for.

Sad really. One day they will wake up. When they do ? The BNP will barely be mentioned again. There would be no point.

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The BNP is not really worthy of much discussion for the simple fact it's not a even a genuine political party and as such has no power or influence.

It was created by the political establishment purely as a diversionary move so that the main political parties can point the finger at the BNP and accuse them of extremism.

I'm sure the relatives of all those slaughtered or injured in Iraq and Afghanistan during this rediculous so called 'war on terror' are acutely aware of who the real extremists are.

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I'm sure the relatives of all those slaughtered or injured in Iraq and Afghanistan during this rediculous so called 'war on terror' are acutely aware of who the real extremists are.

I assume you're not referring to the afghans and iraqis slaughtered or injured in their own countries? Or are you? :unsure:

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I've never heard a woman's furry front bottom called that before.... :unsure:

Aha! You obviously haven't been around. :)

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