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This so-called gumment are ruining Britain. Everyone can see it now, but nothing is being done.

What mechanisms are available to petition the Queen to dissolve Parliament and hold a General Election? How is it done?

Or how do the other Parties get together and demand the gumments resignation? There must be something that can be done, surely? :blink:

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i think she'd only intervene if her interests were threatened.

the wellbeing of her 'subjects' and the country would not appear to be on the list

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The Queen has no such power, she is subject to the wishes of Parliament and they to the will of the People, expressed at a General Election. Anyway, look to the reasons to be happy. Camermoron and his cronies are still being denied power and thus frustrated in their aim of cutting public spending and impoverishing those on low incomes while putting more money in the pockets of the already rich. I have no desire to return to Thatcherite misery and London as a cardboard city.

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This so-called gumment are ruining Britain. Everyone can see it now, but nothing is being done.

What mechanisms are available to petition the Queen to dissolve Parliament and hold a General Election? How is it done?

Or how do the other Parties get together and demand the gumments resignation? There must be something that can be done, surely? :blink:

We fought a civil war over this issue.

The Parliamentarians won.

The Queen is powerless to intervene.

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I wouldn't want the Queen to get involved in politics.

The Monarchy are just figure heads now, they really shouldn't get involved. Remember, whether we like it or not, the Labour Government was elected into power.

We will have our chance at the next election.

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i think she'd only intervene if her interests were threatened.

the wellbeing of her 'subjects' and the country would not appear to be on the list

I disagree. She has the power and would use it if the state started looking dictatorial, a state off affairs that may begin to emerge if economic collapse looked inevitable.

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Well, she didn't do anything when the Tories were pulling themselves apart in the nineties.

I'm just so sorry for the British people that the management of their country is allowed to descend into such an undignified frenzy. The media might claim to merely report on affairs but watching events today its never been more clear they're surreptitiously driving events too.

The British media ensure matters are reported with such intensity speed, angst and panic the county's leaders spend more time being held to account than actually leading.

Don't get me wrong I have no time for Brown or Labour but I detest the prevailing British political system even more and the vice like grip the media exert on it.

Britain truly has descended into being an international laughing stock.

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Constitutionally the Queen has the power to dissolve parliament. However, by convention she only exercises this power on the advice of her ministers. But that doesn't mean that she COULDN'T dissolve parliament APART from the advice of her ministers. But I think things would have to be pretty bad for HM to exercise that power.

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i think she'd only intervene if her interests were threatened.

the wellbeing of her 'subjects' and the country would not appear to be on the list

it looks like brown and prince charles tommorrow in normandy for d-day with obama and little big man sarko

the queen is at the races one of her horses is running at ascot

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Well, she didn't do anything when the Tories were pulling themselves apart in the nineties.

It was never like this in the nineties. Back then John Major had a wafer thin majority but still managed to run a coherent government. Divisions in the party were along policy lines, not tribalism between 'Blairites' and 'Brownites'.

I'm completely disgusted by Brown today.

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Well, she didn't do anything when the Tories were pulling themselves apart in the nineties.

I'm just so sorry for the British people that the management of their country is allowed to descend into such an undignified frenzy. The media might claim to merely report on affairs but watching events today its never been more clear they're surreptitiously driving events too.

The British media ensure matters are reported with such intensity speed, angst and panic the county's leaders spend more time being held to account than actually leading.

Don't get me wrong I have no time for Brown or Labour but I detest the prevailing British political system even more and the grip the vice like grip the media exert on it.

Britain truly has descended into being an international laughing stock.

You make it sound so serious, as if these useless t@ssers not producing their regular quota of bullsh1t would cause bridges to start collapsing

At least the uk public are now getting some comedic value for their taxes

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This so-called gumment are ruining Britain. Everyone can see it now, but nothing is being done.

What mechanisms are available to petition the Queen to dissolve Parliament and hold a General Election? How is it done?

Or how do the other Parties get together and demand the gumments resignation? There must be something that can be done, surely? :blink:

It's not the monarch's role to satiate the public's desire for an early election.

She may only get involved if the following scenario occurs:

Brown drafts a new Act which limits parliamentary terms to 4 years, starting from next May, but because the law is passed (with a Labour majority) there is no need for a general election in 2010. Public outrage would require her to use Royal Prerogative to either refuse Assent, or to force Parliament to dissolve

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It was never like this in the nineties. Back then John Major had a wafer thin majority but still managed to run a coherent government. Divisions in the party were along policy lines, not tribalism between 'Blairites' and 'Brownites'.

I'm completely disgusted by Brown today.

Yes, exactly, by clinging on Brown is displaying an anti-democratic belligerence seen with neither Major or Thatcher. Major held a leadership contest which John Redwood fought, and lost, and Portillo bottled. In Thatcher's case her cabinet only had to tell her to leave privately - whereas with Brown their disapproval and, to be frank, outright mutiny is being witnessed in public.

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You make it sound so serious, as if these useless t@ssers not producing their regular quota of bullsh1t would cause bridges to start collapsing

At least the uk public are now getting some comedic value for their taxes

There's a time and a place.

Its the flippancy of the past decade that's pushed the UK into a perilous financial condition and that's not a laughing matter.

Isn't it time to sober up yet? Still what do I care? I don't have to live in the country.

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OK, so the Queen can't do much.... well, how about the other parties call for a vote of no confidence in the gumment.... couldn't that be done? I am just so surprised that the other parties haven't pounced this week to finish nulabia off.

Then again, they all work for the same powers so I shouldn't be too surprised really... :rolleyes:

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OK, so the Queen can't do much.... well, how about the other parties call for a vote of no confidence in the gumment.... couldn't that be done? I am just so surprised that the other parties haven't pounced this week to finish nulabia off.

Then again, they all work for the same powers so I shouldn't be too surprised really... :rolleyes:

She could do it quite easily without overstepping the mark, I reckon. All she would have to do is suggest she was getting worried. This could be done tacitly. She would just have to conspicuously invite the new Home Secretary Alan Johnson to the palace.

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The Monarchy are just figure heads now, they really shouldn't get involved. Remember, whether we like it or not, the Labour Government was elected into power.

By 22% of the electorate. That's no mandate.

Thomas Jefferson :'A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.'

No, it shouldn't up to the queen but, heck, do we need a written constituion, checks and balances, fixed election dates, some mechanism to remove governments that have become as terrible as this one.

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I post to a rival site, The Economic Voice. We thought that due to the developing expenses scandal (18th May) we should petition 10 Downing Street website to ask the Queen to dissolve Parliament. Not expecting anything other than a here's 50p now piss off! - Which is what we got! Our petition (I submitted it ) was immediately rejected - the reply being:

"Hi,

I'm sorry to inform you that your petition has been rejected.

Your petition was classed as being in the following categories:

* Duplicate - this is similar to and/or overlaps with an

existing petition or petitions

Further information:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/

If you wish to edit and resubmit your petition, please follow

the following link:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AsktheQue...8R1aDya733A26Tp

You have four weeks in which to do this, after which your

petition will appear in the list of rejected petitions.

Your petition reads:

"We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to: 'Ask Her

Majesty, The Queen, to dissolve Parliament with immediate

effect .'

The Prime Minister has the legal right to ask the Queen to

dissolve Parliament at any time.

“The parliamentary system of the UK has been compromised and

corrupted by the greed & self interest of the current elected

representatives of the citizens of this nation. We, the

citizens, have the right to expect that our elected political

representatives perform their duties without self-interest and

wholly for the benefit of the electorate in return for an open

and transparent remuneration.

We, the citizens of the UK, no longer have any confidence in

the honesty or integrity of those we previously elected.

We elect our MPs so that they may govern in Her Majesty's name

for our benefit. They have signally failed in this

responsibility and are now governing to the detriment of the

country, the citizens and the crown.

We therefore demand the immediate dissolution of Parliament.â€

As allowed I have re-submitted it adding the following by way of mitigation:

I feel the reason for rejection is erroneous and obfuscatory for obvious political motives.

Firstly: From a legal point of view 'calling for a general election' is different to calling for 'dissolution of Parliament'. Mr Jones' petition does not even use the word 'dissolution' so is a different to mine.

Secondly timeframe: I am asking for a dissolution of Parliament in light of the on going MP's expenses scandal bought to a head this week. Mr Jones' was obviously raised before this.

Thirdly Mr Jones represents a specific organisation (Taxpaying Pensioner) I represent a wider public.

Finaly I understand the Conservative Party & even The Sun have launched petitions calling for dissolution it casts doubt on the impartiality of this website if you disallow this petition."

My resubmitted petition was rejected last week.

There is a petition asking for dissolution but...it is by a disgruntled wrinkly & makes no mention of the expenses scandal. But we got the rejection we expected!

If you want to sign the current (allowed) petition the link is:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/

Not quite our peition - posted by someone who describes themselves as being: "Keith Jones of taxpaying pensioner without political affiliation"

The end date is 27 June there have only been 5358 sigs so far!

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No, it shouldn't up to the queen but, heck, do we need a written constituion, checks and balances, fixed election dates, some mechanism to remove governments that have become as terrible as this one.

Pitchforks anyone????

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I post to a rival site, The Economic Voice. We thought that due to the developing expenses scandal (18th May) we should petition 10 Downing Street website to ask the Queen to dissolve Parliament. Not expecting anything other than a here's 50p now piss off! - Which is what we got! Our petition (I submitted it ) was immediately rejected - the reply being:

"Hi,

I'm sorry to inform you that your petition has been rejected.

Your petition was classed as being in the following categories:

* Duplicate - this is similar to and/or overlaps with an

existing petition or petitions

Further information:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/

If you wish to edit and resubmit your petition, please follow

the following link:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AsktheQue...8R1aDya733A26Tp

You have four weeks in which to do this, after which your

petition will appear in the list of rejected petitions.

Your petition reads:

"We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to: 'Ask Her

Majesty, The Queen, to dissolve Parliament with immediate

effect .'

The Prime Minister has the legal right to ask the Queen to

dissolve Parliament at any time.

“The parliamentary system of the UK has been compromised and

corrupted by the greed & self interest of the current elected

representatives of the citizens of this nation. We, the

citizens, have the right to expect that our elected political

representatives perform their duties without self-interest and

wholly for the benefit of the electorate in return for an open

and transparent remuneration.

We, the citizens of the UK, no longer have any confidence in

the honesty or integrity of those we previously elected.

We elect our MPs so that they may govern in Her Majesty's name

for our benefit. They have signally failed in this

responsibility and are now governing to the detriment of the

country, the citizens and the crown.

We therefore demand the immediate dissolution of Parliament.â€

As allowed I have re-submitted it adding the following by way of mitigation:

I feel the reason for rejection is erroneous and obfuscatory for obvious political motives.

Firstly: From a legal point of view 'calling for a general election' is different to calling for 'dissolution of Parliament'. Mr Jones' petition does not even use the word 'dissolution' so is a different to mine.

Secondly timeframe: I am asking for a dissolution of Parliament in light of the on going MP's expenses scandal bought to a head this week. Mr Jones' was obviously raised before this.

Thirdly Mr Jones represents a specific organisation (Taxpaying Pensioner) I represent a wider public.

Finaly I understand the Conservative Party & even The Sun have launched petitions calling for dissolution it casts doubt on the impartiality of this website if you disallow this petition."

My resubmitted petition was rejected last week.

There is a petition asking for dissolution but...it is by a disgruntled wrinkly & makes no mention of the expenses scandal. But we got the rejection we expected!

If you want to sign the current (allowed) petition the link is:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/

Not quite our peition - posted by someone who describes themselves as being: "Keith Jones of taxpaying pensioner without political affiliation"

The end date is 27 June there have only been 5358 sigs so far!

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I post to a rival site, The Economic Voice. We thought that due to the developing expenses scandal (18th May) we should petition 10 Downing Street website to ask the Queen to dissolve Parliament. Not expecting anything other than a here's 50p now piss off! - Which is what we got! Our petition (I submitted it ) was immediately rejected - the reply being:

"Hi,

I'm sorry to inform you that your petition has been rejected.

Your petition was classed as being in the following categories:

* Duplicate - this is similar to and/or overlaps with an

existing petition or petitions

Further information:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/

If you wish to edit and resubmit your petition, please follow

the following link:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AsktheQue...8R1aDya733A26Tp

You have four weeks in which to do this, after which your

petition will appear in the list of rejected petitions.

Your petition reads:

"We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to: 'Ask Her

Majesty, The Queen, to dissolve Parliament with immediate

effect .'

The Prime Minister has the legal right to ask the Queen to

dissolve Parliament at any time.

“The parliamentary system of the UK has been compromised and

corrupted by the greed & self interest of the current elected

representatives of the citizens of this nation. We, the

citizens, have the right to expect that our elected political

representatives perform their duties without self-interest and

wholly for the benefit of the electorate in return for an open

and transparent remuneration.

We, the citizens of the UK, no longer have any confidence in

the honesty or integrity of those we previously elected.

We elect our MPs so that they may govern in Her Majesty's name

for our benefit. They have signally failed in this

responsibility and are now governing to the detriment of the

country, the citizens and the crown.

We therefore demand the immediate dissolution of Parliament.â€

As allowed I have re-submitted it adding the following by way of mitigation:

I feel the reason for rejection is erroneous and obfuscatory for obvious political motives.

Firstly: From a legal point of view 'calling for a general election' is different to calling for 'dissolution of Parliament'. Mr Jones' petition does not even use the word 'dissolution' so is a different to mine.

Secondly timeframe: I am asking for a dissolution of Parliament in light of the on going MP's expenses scandal bought to a head this week. Mr Jones' was obviously raised before this.

Thirdly Mr Jones represents a specific organisation (Taxpaying Pensioner) I represent a wider public.

Finaly I understand the Conservative Party & even The Sun have launched petitions calling for dissolution it casts doubt on the impartiality of this website if you disallow this petition."

My resubmitted petition was rejected last week.

There is a petition asking for dissolution but...it is by a disgruntled wrinkly & makes no mention of the expenses scandal. But we got the rejection we expected!

If you want to sign the current (allowed) petition the link is:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/

Not quite our peition - posted by someone who describes themselves as being: "Keith Jones of taxpaying pensioner without political affiliation"

The end date is 27 June there have only been 5358 sigs so far!

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