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Just out on the BBC, the Met Police say they will not be continuing their investigation of inidividual expenses claims by MPs and say it is a matter for the House of Commons to deal with.

Pussies!

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Just out on the BBC, the Met Police say they will not be continuing their investigation of inidividual expenses claims by MPs and say it is a matter for the House of Commons to deal with.

Pussies!

The Great British Banana Republic - one rule for us and no rules for them. This country is crying out for a revolution to get rid of all the troughers and those that protect them.

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what are we supposed to infer from this?

1] that some high level threats have been made

2] that the police are just as bent as the politicians

3] both

any other possible reasons for our forces of law and order not to investigate such endemic fraud and i'd love to hear them

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The problem is systemic and emcompasses so many aspects of government. I suppose they are scared to be backed into a corner where the whole system is so corrupt that any poking with a stick will bring the complete lot down and leave us with anachy of another discription

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Parliament is sovereign, it's a law unto itself, troughing is in bad taste but it's not illegal. If Parliament decides to spunk our money all over the place like a Jackie Smith style porno then it can do so, that's the sorry truth, even blatant fraud seems to be allowed.

The only answer to this one is the ballot box.

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Just out on the BBC, the Met Police say they will not be continuing their investigation of inidividual expenses claims by MPs and say it is a matter for the House of Commons to deal with.

Pussies!

"In other breaking news the Pope has been discovered to be Catholic."

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"In other breaking news the Pope has been discovered to be Catholic."

Wow... I thought he was Nazi youth.

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"In other breaking news the Pope has been discovered to be Catholic."

Well I posted it as soon as the BBC said it, and there has been no confirmation prior to that, though it was pretty much a foregone conclusion.

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Just wondering.... aside from the dodgy claims, aren't some of them "taxable benefits"..... do you think they are paying tax on these perks, as you and I would?

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Just out on the BBC, the Met Police say they will not be continuing their investigation of inidividual expenses claims by MPs and say it is a matter for the House of Commons to deal with.

Pussies!

Not pissies, they have been warned off

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8085207.stm

The Metropolitan Police has not ruled out criminal probes over MPs expenses.

In a statement, Scotland Yard said it was highly unlikely MPs would be taken to court, unless there was proof they misled Parliamentary authorities.

But it added that a special panel needed more information in a "small number" of cases before making a final decision on criminal investigations.

Many MPs who had faced complaints over their claims appeared to have provided accurate information, the Met said.

In May, the Metropolitan Police and Crown Prosecution Service set up a joint panel of detectives and lawyers to look at the reports of how some MPs were using the Parliamentary expenses.

This panel was charged with looking at whether a criminal investigation should be launched, rather than actually beginning a full probe.

Scotland Yard had received some formal complaints, including from Middlesbrough Mayor Ray Mallon, formerly a high-profile police officer, and a tax campaign group.

Questions remain

In a statement on Friday morning, Scotland Yard said the assessment panel had met on a number of occasions over the past two weeks and considered "a large number of allegations" about alleged abuse of expenses in both the Lords and Commons.

It said that members of the panel had set out to understand the procedures for claiming expenses from the Fees Office in Parliament, the twin departments managing all submissions from MPs and peers.

"The panel's view is that, unless evidence is available which shows individuals deliberately misled the fees office, it is highly unlikely that there could be a successful prosecution," said the statement.

"Many of those complained about appear to have provided accurate information and therefore the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) will not pursue a criminal investigation into allegations against them.

"It is for the Commons and the Lords authorities to decide whether they wish to consider these cases under their internal processes and should information come to light that indicates that either Fees Office has been deliberately misled, then they will be able to make a referral back to the MPS for further consideration.

If I claim for a mortgage that doesn't exist how can I have provided accurate information?

I bet the lodge meetings have been lively about how they can cover this one up.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics...estigation.html

The Metropolitan Police has announced that it is seeking more information on a small number of cases which could lead to full criminal investigations in the wake of the MPs' expenses scandal.

The Telegraph understands that they relate to the claiming of "phantom mortgages" when an MP has potentially misled the Fees Office.

Mr Morley, a minister for nine years under Tony Blair, claimed £16,000 over 18 months for a mortgage that did not exist.

He became one of the first casualties of the scandal when he was suspended from the Parliamentary Labour Party and later announced that he would stand down as an MP.

Mr Chaytor also announced he would be standing, as MP for Bury North, after it was disclosed that he claimed almost £13,000 in interest from his MP's expenses for a mortgage that he had already paid off.

He said that he had made an “unforgiveable error†in his "accounting procedures" and apologised to his constituents.

Two other MPs, Ben Chapman and Bill Wiggin, were also exposed as claiming on phantom mortgages, and could possibly face further inquiries.

Criminal lawyers have said that the claims could constitute a criminal offence under the 2006 Fraud Act and the 1968 Theft Act.

The Met have received more than a hundred complaints from members of the public about MPs, including the Cabinet members Alistair Darling and Geoff Hoon and the Labour peer Baroness Uddin.

And yet the Telegraph reports it like this?

Perhaps the lodge is divided over what to do?

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you have to prove intent. that is quite difficult where an offence is not absolute, like fraud.

and dont forget, these things were not, in the main "expenses", they were "allowances".

How many Police receive the Lamp Allowance and yet do not go out on patrol or carry a lamp?

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Will the police wimp out of my giving me a fine for eating a kit-kat whilst driving or maybe the fine for driving at 50mph when it was perfectly safe to do so at night ?

Didn't think so and yet they are face with massive fraud and possible treason against the people of the country and they do sweet FA.

Democracy ? my a$$ but rest assured the police will be watching both the BNP and UKIP to see if they can dig any dirt for their masters.

Are things real that much worse in China and when it comes to rights me thinks Russia is a better place

Edited by Justice

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Just out on the BBC, the Met Police say they will not be continuing their investigation of inidividual expenses claims by MPs and say it is a matter for the House of Commons to deal with.

Pussies!

Meanwhole Wayne, who's supplementing his £60 a week dole with a few untaxed hours on a market stall, is being arrested and charged somewhere.

One law for them.

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Typical, there’s never a copper around when you want one.

But at least we know where we stand now and that’ good.

What we need is a reasonably resourced citizen’s campaign, one that has the funds to brief competent lawyers, to bring these bastards to justice via private prosecutions. I would certainly be willing to dish out a few hundred quid if I though the set up was serious.

Mark Thomas is probably the guy to front this. He has the media skills

Remember Bob Geldof and Live Aid, that shows what can be done.

Perhaps Thomas’ finest hour is just around the corner and the cost of successful prosecutions, which should not be excessive, could be recouped from the assets of the convicted.

Their golden goodbyes and pension funds would be more than adequate.

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Meanwhole Wayne, who's supplementing his £60 a week dole with a few untaxed hours on a market stall, is being arrested and charged somewhere.

One law for them.

Indeed, after watching some news about expenses, the ads contained a long commercial about tracking Benefit cheats, how they are being dobbed in and spied on by neighbours, how they are interviewed and charged in a dark dingy room, about their newly acquired Criminal record, followed by a picture of a lady at a doorway with a TARGET aimed at her.

discusting.

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Meanwhole Wayne, who's supplementing his £60 a week dole with a few untaxed hours on a market stall, is being arrested and charged somewhere.

One law for them.

oops, claimed a post twice....purely unintentional and the error has been repaid. no rules were broken and I am very sorry.

Edited by Bloo Loo

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oops, claimed a post twice....purely unintentional and the error has been repaid. no rules were broken and I am very sorry.

:lol::lol::lol: You naughty Bloo Loo You, don't do it again

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Parliament is sovereign, it's a law unto itself, troughing is in bad taste but it's not illegal. If Parliament decides to spunk our money all over the place like a Jackie Smith style porno then it can do so, that's the sorry truth, even blatant fraud seems to be allowed.

The only answer to this one is the ballot box.

Yes, the politicians make the law not the police.

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Its just a matter of time before the anger breaks out, sadly, but for the best. IMO

Pink Floyd, The final cut

The rusty wire that holds the cork

that keeps the anger in

gives way

and suddenly its day again

the sun is in the east

even though the day is done

two suns in the sunset

could be the human race is run

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Just out on the BBC, the Met Police say they will not be continuing their investigation of inidividual expenses claims by MPs and say it is a matter for the House of Commons to deal with.

Pussies!

Obviously it's not as important as if somebody said something "racist" or something. Then the police would be all over it.

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