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Third :(

I was hoping for fourth.

Don't discount Independents, the "Other" grouping may well pull off a shock this time, certainly I heard from a lot of people how highly they rated the independents for the council seats.

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Only behind Cons and Libs. Can they hold this position in front of UKIP/Greens and even BNP?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8081729.stm

I wouldn't be that surprised to see the BNP coming in front of Liebour in at least one or two of councils. I suspect that we'll be in for a shock on just how many 'minor' parties have been backed. Almost everyone I spoke to about the Euro election, was going for UKIP. Voting intentions with regards the BNP doesn't seem to be an open discussion topic amongest colleagues or neighbours (not yet anyway).

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Third :(

I was hoping for fourth.

Dan Hannan has a bet with Guido Fawkes that Labour will come 5th.

Personally I just wonder how much of a total tard you have to be to vote Labour at all.

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Personally I just wonder how much of a total tard you have to be to vote Labour at all.

Think it was the local ITV news last night - they interviewed a few people in Salford about their voting. The last woman they spoke to (a wrinkled, toothless old biddy) laughed at the camera and said she would be voting Labour otherwise "Me Dad wouldn't be very happy", and nodded skywards towards heaven.

Why should people like this even be GIVEN a vote ? They are contributing towards an electorial system that will have implications for all of us based on the presumed judgement of a third party. And a DEAD third party at that !

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Think it was the local ITV news last night - they interviewed a few people in Salford about their voting. The last woman they spoke to (a wrinkled, toothless old biddy) laughed at the camera and said she would be voting Labour otherwise "Me Dad wouldn't be very happy", and nodded skywards towards heaven.

Why should people like this even be GIVEN a vote ? They are contributing towards an electorial system that will have implications for all of us based on the presumed judgement of a third party. And a DEAD third party at that !

There are indeed some places where you could put a packet of lard as a candidate and as long as it had a red rosette it'd get in.

Sadly that's democrazy ;-)

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Only behind Cons and Libs. Can they hold this position in front of UKIP/Greens and even BNP?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8081729.stm

Um, surely the winner must be "none of the above"?

Hope (vainly) both lab and con get trashed in the euro elections. They're both the same: whinge mightily about what's wrong, but veto all attempts to fix it. They're both the bored kids in the back of the class who disrupt the lesson for everyone else. Except ... unlike uk-national-british-independence party, they're hopelessly two-faced and can't be honest about their unwillingness to engage constructively on a program to build on what's good and reform what's bad.

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It was reported earlier that Labour had gained a new seat in Hull but it was just Prescott handing back one of his many toilet seats paid for by you and me.

Panic over

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There are indeed some places where you could put a packet of lard as a candidate and as long as it had a red rosette it'd get in.

Sadly that's democrazy ;-)

Indeed. I even lived in Roy Hattersley's constituency for a while, so I saw it happen :)

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There are indeed some places where you could put a packet of lard as a candidate and as long as it had a red rosette it'd get in.

Sadly that's democrazy ;-)

Sedgefield!

Or if we are talking real packs of lard, Prescotts constituency

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While it's surprising that in the early result some people do seem to have returned Labour candidates, the 'good local man/woman' factor kicks in.

No one knows who the heck the average EU Parliament candidate even is so the wild voting will take place in the Euros.

Edited by CrashedOutAndBurned

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Dan Hannan has a bet with Guido Fawkes that Labour will come 5th.

Personally I just wonder how much of a total tard you have to be to vote Labour or Tory at all.

corrected

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Here in South Hampshire the Tories have increased their hold at the expense of the Lib Dems.

In my home town Eastleigh, UKIP came 3rd in every ward pushing Labour into last position.

In the Fareham and New Forest wards - despite lots of adverse press regarding the incumbent Tory MPs expenses (Peter Viggers duck house and Julian Lewis's £7k redecoration bill) the Tories maintained their position comfortably.

In the only ward where the BNP stood - largely working class Portchester -they came 5th in a field of 6. Well beaten by Labour.

A low turnout as well, which favours the smaller parties.

Edited by Son of Fred

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Son of Fred... where are you getting this info from? Not questioning it in the slightest, just want to look at it.

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It looks as if in terms of vote share the total collapse of Labour isn't happening.Indeed North of the border they have actuallly won some seats from the SNP.With a relatively small turnout,some reports say as low as the high 20's it's difficult to extrapolate to a national picture.There is also the feeling that these votes are not "real". (I voted for Arthur Scargill based on our mutual hatred of Thatcher and the fact that he was the most "real" of the nutters on the half metre long charge sheet)

I just have a feeling that Dave is going to be the real loser when the dust settles.It's going to be a bit like Manchester United beating Frickley Rail Depot second XI 2-0 in the FA cup.Brown's failure is already factored in but if Dave cant manage 35% of the Euro vote he's not going to win the general.

Edited by profitofdoom

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Labour can't even organise a rebellion properly. Brown is dead and the most organised response so far is the mass adoption of clothes pegs on noses to avoid the increasing stench from his corpse.

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Think it was the local ITV news last night - they interviewed a few people in Salford about their voting. The last woman they spoke to (a wrinkled, toothless old biddy) laughed at the camera and said she would be voting Labour otherwise "Me Dad wouldn't be very happy", and nodded skywards towards heaven.

Why should people like this even be GIVEN a vote ? They are contributing towards an electorial system that will have implications for all of us based on the presumed judgement of a third party. And a DEAD third party at that !

Was her dad a Gay Outreach Equality and Diversity Officer?

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Good to see the BNP winning a council place. Hopefully the first of many.

The more people we can get to annoy Labour and the established parties the better.

Edited by Errol

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Dan Hannan has a bet with Guido Fawkes that Labour will come 5th.

Personally I just wonder how much of a total tard you have to be to vote Labour at all.

The kind that is receiving the handouts.

Feckless, chavvy, undecuated, low life scum and the public sector. Around 20% of the population are in the state/Gordon's pocket.

He has bought his votes

Edited by Godley

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There are indeed some places where you could put a packet of lard as a candidate and as long as it had a red rosette it'd get in.

Sadly that's democrazy ;-)

Do you (honestly) think it is any different in Wokingham or Esher for Tories?

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Do you (honestly) think it is any different in Wokingham or Esher for Tories?

Yes. It would have to be a packet of lard in a very nice hand tailored wrapper.

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