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What Sort Of Constituancy Seat Are You In?

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I live in a safe Labour seat. It contains large numbers of single parents raising kids on the state from multiple fathers, a high level of disabled, benefit claiments etc.. The chances they are going to vote for anyone other than Labour are slim, even if there is some disgust about unelected policies like mass immigration, sleeze or ID cards, or neverending red tape etc.. its not going to affect the core vote much. So whatever a voters views, my vote and views don't really count.

In fact, so it is with 90% of the 659 seats in parliment. Most seats are safe seats, where the overiding demographics and levels of income determine the core vote, and the political outcome is 95-99% certain for one of the main parties.

The political battleground is determined by just 100 or so marginal seats, and within this small number of seats only a few percent of voters - the ones who switch parties - called floating voters or 'swing voters' - a few percent of the marginal vote - determine the outcome of who is in government.

This means that a few middle class voters who are bridged between rich and low incomes, the swing voters in marginal seats, not low income seats like mine, concerned with rising house prices determine the outcome of the government and politics!

This system of safe seats inherently creates a corrupt political elite - 'a club' who can dole out safe seats to thier friends and families, inbetween fiddling the taxpayer.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11...-safe-seat.html

Most MP's are not selected from ordinary members of the community, having faced ordinary peoples life challenges, but are instead selected by a handful of the political elite and well connected. Hence the rise of the huge numbers of 'professional' politicians who have never even had a real job outside of politics.

Because of the way these party machines need funding in the millions while ordinary membership collapses leaving huge deficits, we have seen more and more stories of the political elite cavorting with bankers http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/poli...icle4982255.ece and has resulted in more and more policies which favour house price inflation, lending bubbles and the bankers getting rich while ordinary people shoulder the losses in inflation, taxes and disaster etc..

In my view, The only way of challenging this corrupt system, and the poltical elites - is by voting for the nearest parties which challenge the 'core vote' - BNP for Labour safe seats or UKIP for Tory safe seats. Their is not a chance in hell they will get anywhere, but the erosion of the core vote in safe seats will help force change.

What sort of seat are you in and who are you going to vote for?

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Ah, BraiNclamP, I wondered where you had got to – I had not seen any posts from you for a while.

Surprise surprise, as we approach the election, you are back on the site pushing you fascist political agenda.

Made many posts about house prices recently or are you just promoting the fascist agenda nowadays?

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I live in a Labour seat . Its technically safe but only because the opposition is split equally between the Tories (the posh bits) and the Lib Dems (the poorer parts).

Who to vote for - heart says Lib Dems so that's probably where I'll head!

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The EU vote tomorrow is not going to be based on European policies!

It is perhaps the only real chance for core party voters to shake the system up before the national election!

I suppose the best outcome would be for Brown to step down as a result of the core vote protest, and craven, worried New Labour MP's would then elect Alan Johnson to stand as Labour Leader, who seems to be promising to bring a more proportional voting system to UK politics and end the spinning, self serving instituitionaly corrupt system we have at present.

[godless] ... Done!

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Ah, BraiNclamP, I wondered where you had got to – I had not seen any posts from you for a while.

Surprise surprise, as we approach the election, you are back on the site pushing you fascist political agenda.

Made many posts about house prices recently or are you just promoting the fascist agenda nowadays?

Hmm...My post counter seems to say I have posted many more posts on the housing bubble than you. My position is that any votes for UKIP or the BNP are votes against corruption, there is not a chance in hell they will make any real gains but they will shake up the core vote being taken for granted.

And it does work - remember Jack Straw coming out with some PR stunt rubbish about muslim hajabs when the BNP affected 5% of his core Labour vote?

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Hmm...My post counter seems to say I have posted many more posts on the housing bubble than you. My position is that any votes for UKIP or the BNP are votes against corruption, there is not a chance in hell they will make any real gains but they will shake up the core vote being taken for granted.

And it does work - remember Jack Straw coming out with some PR stunt rubbish about muslim hajabs when the BNP affected 5% of his core Labour vote?

Yes, quite, let’s look at the two (semi literate) posts you made prior to today.

The first was on the Jun 24 2008. It starts 'MASS immigration of astounding proportions means pressure on food prices go up. The additional increases in economic activity and its gains, due to mass immigration/population growth do not return anything to the original population size.'

The second, on Jun 3 2008 starts 'The massive influx of low skilled immigration into the city is being citied as one of the key reasons why rents will remain high and property prices will not come down'

You really are a one trick pony. Please go and peddle your fascist filth elsewhere........

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My seat (City of York) - 2005 result:

Labour = 46.9%

Tories = 24.4%

Lib Dem = 21.9%

So, a 12.4% straight Labour to Tory swing would be needed to unseat Hugh Bayley. He hasn't been implicated in the expenses scandal so far, but has a reputation as being a featureless, Blairite clone.

If recent City of York Council elections are anything to go by (not up for election tomorrow - only Euro elections here) and there is significant anti-Labour feeling precipitated by the expenses scandal, the seat could well be to all intents and purposes a three-way marginal. The Tory candidate is an 'A' list woman from Sussex who has no connection to York or Yorkshire whatsoever, which at the very least won't do much to boost turnout.

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Yes, quite, let’s look at the two (semi literate) posts you made prior to today.

The first was on the Jun 24 2008. It starts 'MASS immigration of astounding proportions means pressure on food prices go up. The additional increases in economic activity and its gains, due to mass immigration/population growth do not return anything to the original population size.'

The second, on Jun 3 2008 starts 'The massive influx of low skilled immigration into the city is being citied as one of the key reasons why rents will remain high and property prices will not come down'

You really are a one trick pony. Please go and peddle your fascist filth elsewhere........

I notice your first post accused me of not contributing here lately. Really have you missed me?

Pretty interesting posts if you read them in context, you will see the corrosive effects forecast are accurate and real and are here and now. Declining living standards for most people can only result from uncontrolled mass immigration. I would hardly call them fascist filth.

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Hello, I am in a safe lib-dem seat and I will be voting SNP like waitingscot - hence not being able to vote in this lovely poll.

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My seat (City of York) - 2005 result:

Labour = 46.9%

Tories = 24.4%

Lib Dem = 21.9%

So, a 12.4% straight Labour to Tory swing would be needed to unseat Hugh Bayley. He hasn't been implicated in the expenses scandal so far, but has a reputation as being a featureless, Blairite clone.

If recent City of York Council elections are anything to go by (not up for election tomorrow - only Euro elections here) and there is significant anti-Labour feeling precipitated by the expenses scandal, the seat could well be to all intents and purposes a three-way marginal. The Tory candidate is an 'A' list woman from Sussex who has no connection to York or Yorkshire whatsoever, which at the very least won't do much to boost turnout.

Its likely that Brown will be almost certainly be dumped IMO for Alan Johnson and a whole new agenda will likely emerge based on reform of parlament and PR - something which the conservatives have no ground on mired as they are in sleeze along with labour.

Alan Johnson’s proposals to reform voting system win Cabinet support

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/poli...icle6361175.ece

MPs like Hugh Bayley will be unsheathing thier knifes, and events are moving fast.

There is no real love for Cameron or the conservatives in these safe seats.

Seats like York would remain a labour seat if they regain the initative on the institutional corruption in parlement. In fact Labour could still hold a small majority in parlement if the momentum grows behind this kind of approach.

It was estimated by the Guardian on 2 May, that the swing from Labour to the conservatives is 18%. This would translate into a wafer thin majority for many safe seat labour MP's. Brown is 'a dead man walking' IMO.

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Oh look, another UKIP/BNP supporter that doesn't know what's going on beyond the borders of England.

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Yes, quite, let’s look at the two (semi literate) posts you made prior to today.

The first was on the Jun 24 2008. It starts 'MASS immigration of astounding proportions means pressure on food prices go up. The additional increases in economic activity and its gains, due to mass immigration/population growth do not return anything to the original population size.'

The second, on Jun 3 2008 starts 'The massive influx of low skilled immigration into the city is being citied as one of the key reasons why rents will remain high and property prices will not come down'

... Please go and peddle your fascist filth elsewhere........

Whether his posts are semi-literate or not is irrelevant to whether they are fascistic.

Scandinavian style socialists are also opposed to mass migration because it limits homogeneity and improvements for the bottom of society. Communists also opposed it for reasons of control, and Conservatives for reasons of cultural tradition. The opposition to migration is not necessarily fascist.

Please demonstrate why a view is exclusively fascist before labelling it as fascist. And please demonstrate that a person has many fascist views before labelling them as fascist.

btw - it is emigration as much as immigration that changes the composition of society. In a society of 25m people where 1m arrive each year, in 10 years there would be a 40% change in society. In a society where 1m arrived and 1m left, in 10 years there would be an 80% change in society. Take a South London as an example - it was the mass emmigration of the Irish to Ireland and working class to Kent in the 1990s that had more affect than the immigration.

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A fantastic result in this election thanks to UKIP the tories have been denied a majority in at least 21 of their key marginal seats! Lost Cameron the election.

(BTW UKIP are offering free membership at the moment http://www.ukip.org/helpukip)

All the discussions above starting to bear some form of noxious fruit in the form of AV.

The spitting fury of the Tories and BTLers about a return to 40% CTG (removing a massive tax break to BTLers given by Labour) across all business enterprises is right.

It should be focused only on property, all loopholes (like CTG free primary residence if lived in for a few weeks) closed, and applied as a corrective measure to the property bubble, which you and me are paying for as the BTLers property portfolios were bailed out by our future taxes. Its only right that the vast wealth of the property empires should be forced to pay those taxes back as property inflation is made real by each pound you and me hold being massively devalued as the BOE swapped top quality bonds for BTL debt - and the BTLers are the benificaries sitting on vast profits.

Every pound coin is a liability of the Bank of England - on the other side of its balance sheet it should hold top quality assets like Gilts, TBills etc.. it has now swapped these top quality assets for rubbish BTL loans and 125% no deposit mortgages to bail out the private sector banks and the housing market.

Now its time for the wealthy from this disaster to pay us all back.

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