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I've just left a flat and been told that I will have an exit fee deducted from my desposit. There was no mention of this int he contract that I signed. What's going on?

I've also learnt that a couple of blown light bulbs will cost £50 + VAT to replace.

Does this website allow naming and shaming? :P

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I've just left a flat and been told that I will have an exit fee deducted from my desposit. There was no mention of this int he contract that I signed. What's going on?

I've also learnt that a couple of blown light bulbs will cost £50 + VAT to replace.

Does this website allow naming and shaming? :P

Was it in the TDS? I suggest you challenge it.

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Yes, challenge this to the Deposit Protection scheme.

That's what they are there for.

The Landlord cannot prove that the bulbs did not blow after you had left the premises.

There is no such thing as an "exit fee".

You have rights, you know.

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I've just left a flat and been told that I will have an exit fee deducted from my desposit. There was no mention of this int he contract that I signed. What's going on?

I've also learnt that a couple of blown light bulbs will cost £50 + VAT to replace.

Does this website allow naming and shaming? :P

It could be an inventory fee but they would have to have detailed it in the contract if they wanted to charge it

Yes name and shame, as for the light bulbs just dispute it through the TDS scheme they don't have much of a sense of a humour for that kind of thing

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Often the tenant is asked to pay for the checkout, this may be what the "exit fee" is for.

However, it must be stated in the contract that it will be charged.

Above posters are correct, challenge it (and £50 for lightbulbs FFS), do not accept the deductions and take it to TDS if necessary.

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Thanks for the advice.

What a ****ache having to fight these mutha's. They've been a total shower since day 1, mistakes in the contract, never returning calls, arguing over notice periods and now this....

Rest assured that I will name them, when the money is back in my hands, or PM me and I will tell you now! :P

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Thanks for the advice.

What a ****ache having to fight these mutha's. They've been a total shower since day 1, mistakes in the contract, never returning calls, arguing over notice periods and now this....

Rest assured that I will name them, when the money is back in my hands, or PM me and I will tell you now! :P

my lot had a clause saying we agreed to pay the COST of the checkout.

next clause was a list of maximum charges we could be liable for, I queried at the time and they said the maximum would be charged if the case was dificult and required a lot of work.

..

LL agreed to return 100%....the checkout took 20 mins...basically an office clerk read through the inventory and ticked that everything was in order.

then we were charged, of course, the MAXIMUM

I queried but they refused to release the deposit unless I agreed.

Its with the TDS right now. the maximum by the way was £160 Plus VAT....Ive told them to shove it.

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my lot had a clause saying we agreed to pay the COST of the checkout.

next clause was a list of maximum charges we could be liable for, I queried at the time and they said the maximum would be charged if the case was dificult and required a lot of work.

..

LL agreed to return 100%....the checkout took 20 mins...basically an office clerk read through the inventory and ticked that everything was in order.

then we were charged, of course, the MAXIMUM

I queried but they refused to release the deposit unless I agreed.

Its with the TDS right now. the maximum by the way was £160 Plus VAT....Ive told them to shove it.

Let me know how you get on.

I think mine will be going the same way - TDS.

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Let me know how you get on.

I think mine will be going the same way - TDS.

my contract also have half a dozen terms about what the deposit was held for. the Agents fees were not one of the conditions

I have no problem with paying a cost for the check out...but £160+VAT for a clerk to read and verify a list, then send an email to the landlord recomending full return, thats just extortion.....and in my view, MAXIMUM is a limit, not a right.

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I've just left a flat and been told that I will have an exit fee deducted from my desposit. There was no mention of this int he contract that I signed. What's going on?

I've also learnt that a couple of blown light bulbs will cost ?50 + VAT to replace.

So put new ones in yourself then (which they are obliged to let you do, if you've already left).

Why do you think it's OK not to leave the same number of working bulbs as was there when you moved in?

tim

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So put new ones in yourself then (which they are obliged to let you do, if you've already left).

Why do you think it's OK not to leave the same number of working bulbs as was there when you moved in?

tim

Because it exceeds the reasonable cost of making good the damage. They are entitled to deduct the cost of new light bulbs, but that is it. Otherwise it is a fine.

Unless they are some super special type of lightbulbs, they don't cost £25 a pop.

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Because it exceeds the reasonable cost of making good the damage. They are entitled to deduct the cost of new light bulbs, but that is it. Otherwise it is a fine.

Unless they are some super special type of lightbulbs, they don't cost £25 a pop.

plus they have to pay the maintenance man his minimum charge to go around and perform the work

(I agree, 50 pounds is too much, but the expectation that this should be done just for the costs of the bulb(s) is wrong)

tim

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anything stated in a contract (or implied) has to be "fair", otherwise challenge under Unfair Contract Terms and let a county court judge decide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfair_Contract_Terms_Act_1977

that's what section 3 of the Act says.

unfortunately, Schedule 1 says that the Act doesn't apply to contracts relating to insurance, interests in land, intellectual property or financial instruments and employers can't rely on it either.

As a tenancy is an interest in land, the Act doesn't apply.

I'm a lawyer but not a property lawyer, but i do know that under general contract law, which does apply, you can't be charged unless the contract says you can; and if the contract doesn't say how much, it must be a reasonable amount.

why not get yourself down to the CAB?

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I've just left a flat and been told that I will have an exit fee deducted from my desposit. There was no mention of this int he contract that I signed. What's going on?

I've also learnt that a couple of blown light bulbs will cost �50 + VAT to replace.

Does this website allow naming and shaming? :P

It all just sounds like yet another reason for reforming the tenancy laws here. After a big change in circumstances recently I am now needing to rent something.

I thought I would head to an agency to see what the chat was. I left fairly sharp when they explained to me the £250 admin fee I would have to pay to secure a property.

Seems like all I get for this £250 is for someone to press 'print' a few times on their computer to print the lease then make a couple of phone calls to my work and my current landlord for references. £250 a month is an extra £30 a month for the six month tenancy and I am sure there will be another fee in the future if the lease is renewed it all just seems a bit excessive.

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that's what section 3 of the Act says.

unfortunately, Schedule 1 says that the Act doesn't apply to contracts relating to insurance, interests in land, intellectual property or financial instruments and employers can't rely on it either.

As a tenancy is an interest in land, the Act doesn't apply.

I'm a lawyer but not a property lawyer, but i do know that under general contract law, which does apply, you can't be charged unless the contract says you can; and if the contract doesn't say how much, it must be a reasonable amount.

why not get yourself down to the CAB?

it does apply to tenancies...the OFT have a whole section dedicated to tenancies.

tenancy...land....hmm,,, one relates to ownership, one doesnt.

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I've just left a flat and been told that I will have an exit fee deducted from my desposit. There was no mention of this int he contract that I signed. What's going on?

I've also learnt that a couple of blown light bulbs will cost �50 + VAT to replace.

Does this website allow naming and shaming? :P

I can think of no reason whatsoever to justify an exit fee of any amount.

We do our own inventories (as part of the overall LL's letting fee) and never have any problems and if a LL chooses to use an expensive inventory company surely that should be part of his general costs as a LL?

Can't you just drop a couple of lightbulbs off at the LA's? If they say they are incapable of inserting these just offer to do it for them??

Are you renting in the South of England as it seems completely different there?

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Can't you just drop a couple of lightbulbs off at the LA's? If they say they are incapable of inserting these just offer to do it for them??

Would you have to offer them the choice of 'light sockets' or another place ;) Would be tempting to see if their fees fitted in there as well :)

D.

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Would you have to offer them the choice of 'light sockets' or another place ;) Would be tempting to see if their fees fitted in there as well :)

D.

:lol: Absolutely!

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Sounds like you are royally getting the shaft. In most cases it would be in a lease if you terminate a lease before it is completed. As far as light bulbs go - buy your own and put them in.

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It all just sounds like yet another reason for reforming the tenancy laws here. After a big change in circumstances recently I am now needing to rent something.

I thought I would head to an agency to see what the chat was. I left fairly sharp when they explained to me the £250 admin fee I would have to pay to secure a property.

Seems like all I get for this £250 is for someone to press 'print' a few times on their computer to print the lease then make a couple of phone calls to my work and my current landlord for references. £250 a month is an extra £30 a month for the six month tenancy and I am sure there will be another fee in the future if the lease is renewed it all just seems a bit excessive.

Go to a private LL..

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plus they have to pay the maintenance man his minimum charge to go around and perform the work

(I agree, 50 pounds is too much, but the expectation that this should be done just for the costs of the bulb(s) is wrong)

tim

Tenants aren't liable for the cost of paying a maintenance man to screw in the lightbulbs. If the landlord wants to choose a ludicrously expensive method of rectifying something then that's his choice but he can't then expect to pass on the cost to the tenant.

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