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Just read this item on the BBC Website today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8068967.stm

"Millionaire numbers 'have halved'

Winning the lottery is still a good way to become a millionaire

The number of UK millionaires has more than halved as the recession has bitten into the earnings of the super-wealthy, a report has claimed.

There are now 242,000 millionaires across the country, down from a peak of 489,000 in 2007, said the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR).

The CEBR said the big decline had been caused by the collapse in the property market and stock market falls.

This year's 70% drop in City bonuses was another factor, it said.

The report added that another factor that explained the sharp decline was that "a very large number" of previous millionaires had only just crept above the £1m wealth threshold because of the rising property prices of recent years, which have now fallen back sharply.

"Having just crept over the threshold, most of these people have crept back under it again - many, perhaps, without ever knowing that they had become millionaires for a temporary period," it said.

The CEBR said the decline in the number of millionaires could be seen in the recent reduction in the sale of luxury items, such as Bentley cars, sales of which have fallen 66% so far this year.

However, the CEBR concludes that the number of UK millionaires will start to rise again from 2011 as the property market recovers."

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The BBC slavishly puts those last 2 lines in as FACT.... they don't even BEGIN to question or debate it....

Morons. And the reason so many people loathe the BBC.

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Sorry, just read the words CEBR....now I know the office juniors' doodlings about what his mum said last night are the contents of the report.

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Imbeciles. They might as well have said:

"With rampant money printing by the Bank of England, a down-grading of British government debt and the threat of rampant inflation, the number of millionaires is expected to increase dramatically in 2011."

What has happened to the BBC in the last 5 years has been an absolute tragedy. In terms of economic news they are an absolute disgrace. The fact that they got rid of a respected journalist like Geoff Randall, who was one of the few reporters to foresee the crash, and replace him with the Robert Peston, the son of a Labour peer and economics advisor, speaks volumes.

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Last night on 10pm BBC news, there was state-planted story on half the population not "saving for retirement". No real analysis of why this should be so of course (although one of the guilty people featured was a professional accountant which might tell you something).

Just another story to get the people to pay for the political/financial elites's excesses without any debate, pure propaganda.

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The whole idea of people being temporary millioniares without knowing it is so utterly stupid

This body the CEBR loses any remaining shred of economic credibility it may have once had.

Idiots.

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I'd like to see criminal charges against such blatant abuses of the media.

If goverment continue to abuse the trust placed in them, I see no real clarity between a communist state and this current farce we call democracy. State sponsoring of obscene negligance can not be tolterated any more

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Last night on 10pm BBC news, there was state-planted story on half the population not "saving for retirement". No real analysis of why this should be so of course (although one of the guilty people featured was a professional accountant which might tell you something).

Just another story to get the people to pay for the political/financial elites's excesses without any debate, pure propaganda.

Duh

Why is the the unique fault of the BBC? All media have been running similar info over the past 5 years or so.

Why is this a "state planted story"? Its not new news, just become more topical in the current climate.

We have post 3 explicitly showing exactly the same story and phrasing used by SKY - and yet people still try and pretend that somehow the its exclusively the fault of the BBC. The blatant bias, such selective lack of ability to think and analyse, is so depressing.

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Imbeciles. They might as well have said:

"With rampant money printing by the Bank of England, a down-grading of British government debt and the threat of rampant inflation, the number of millionaires is expected to increase dramatically in 2011."

What has happened to the BBC in the last 5 years has been an absolute tragedy. In terms of economic news they are an absolute disgrace. The fact that they got rid of a respected journalist like Geoff Randall, who was one of the few reporters to foresee the crash, and replace him with the Robert Peston, the son of a Labour peer and economics advisor, speaks volumes.

And presumably Sky who ran exactly the same story in exactly the same way.

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everyone knows the BBC are just govt puppets, but i thought it was interesting to see that You-Tube video of BNP's Timbel [sic] and Duke where the BNP guy says in an off hand way, if we ever got into power and had control of the media this is what we would do blah blah blah. Point is, his subconsious connection between getting into power and as a subsequence own and control the media was a nice 'slip' that gives an interesting insight into the preconceptions of what getting into power means.

BBC are essentially evil and pedal nothing other than govt lies.

dont need a thread to discuss that.

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Last night on 10pm BBC news, there was state-planted story on half the population not "saving for retirement". No real analysis of why this should be so of course (although one of the guilty people featured was a professional accountant which might tell you something).

Just another story to get the people to pay for the political/financial elites's excesses without any debate, pure propaganda.

Do you think it would be wrong of the Govt to try and get people to save for retirement?

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I'd like to see criminal charges against such blatant abuses of the media.

If goverment continue to abuse the trust placed in them, I see no real clarity between a communist state and this current farce we call democracy. State sponsoring of obscene negligance can not be tolterated any more

The news stopped being objective a long time ago (if it ever was).

Another problem is the inaccuracies that occur when reporting. Usually due to the fact that reporters are good writers OR speakers and that they lack a deep knowledge of a subject.

News has to be sensationalist and simplistic to attract audiences.

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The news stopped being objective a long time ago (if it ever was).

Another problem is the inaccuracies that occur when reporting. Usually due to the fact that reporters are good writers OR speakers and that they lack a deep knowledge of a subject.

News has to be sensationalist and simplistic to attract audiences.

This article is not news - news to me is the reporting of known facts.

This is an opinion piece - no doubt from one of the organisations that conspicuously failed to forecast the current financial crisis. You may as well ask for an opinion from the fat dancers from Britain's Talentless last night.

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Do you think it would be wrong of the Govt to try and get people to save for retirement?

No, but there are a couple of points:

(1) this is supposed to be news, not a tool of the government to try and get us to do anything, whether it is desirable thing or not.

(2) They are not saving for retirement. They are putting forward part of their earnings for later robbery by the state and the financial sector.

So the answer is, ideally no it would not be wrong, but the fact is that is not what they were doing on the BBC last night.

BTW, I fully accept other news media are as bad. It's just, I don't know, I expect the BBC to be independent.

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Just read this item on the BBC Website today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8068967.stm

"Millionaire numbers 'have halved'

Winning the lottery is still a good way to become a millionaire

The number of UK millionaires has more than halved as the recession has bitten into the earnings of the super-wealthy, a report has claimed.

There are now 242,000 millionaires across the country, down from a peak of 489,000 in 2007, said the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR).

The CEBR said the big decline had been caused by the collapse in the property market and stock market falls.

This year's 70% drop in City bonuses was another factor, it said.

The report added that another factor that explained the sharp decline was that "a very large number" of previous millionaires had only just crept above the £1m wealth threshold because of the rising property prices of recent years, which have now fallen back sharply.

"Having just crept over the threshold, most of these people have crept back under it again - many, perhaps, without ever knowing that they had become millionaires for a temporary period," it said.

The CEBR said the decline in the number of millionaires could be seen in the recent reduction in the sale of luxury items, such as Bentley cars, sales of which have fallen 66% so far this year.

However, the CEBR concludes that the number of UK millionaires will start to rise again from 2011 as the property market recovers."

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The BBC slavishly puts those last 2 lines in as FACT.... they don't even BEGIN to question or debate it....

Morons. And the reason so many people loathe the BBC.

So the BBC reporting on the CEBR's opinion is biased how?

Maybe you're a moron for reading too much into something in order to find fault with the "biased" BBC?

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Last night on 10pm BBC news, there was state-planted story on half the population not "saving for retirement". No real analysis of why this should be so of course (although one of the guilty people featured was a professional accountant which might tell you something).

Just another story to get the people to pay for the political/financial elites's excesses without any debate, pure propaganda.

perhaps if the goverment came clean about the real value of property, people would not have to stretch their finances to buy somewhere to live and could then afford to save for their retirement and maybe even have a little spare cash left over to spend on luxuries its not rocket science is it , all over the news house prices have fell 25% and they predict another 14% fall this year which is 40% ish so why doesn't someone tell these e.a's and homeowners as they don't seem to realise this , they just keep valuing them at what they were in 2007 , then wonder why they are not selling IDIOTS the govt should make an announcement on the main news as they can't have it both ways high house prices and people saving for their retirement when most people are on low wages

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So the BBC reporting on the CEBR's opinion is biased how?

Maybe you're a moron for reading too much into something in order to find fault with the "biased" BBC?

I stated: "they don't even BEGIN to question or debate it...."

Maybe you're a moron who can't read? :unsure:

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I stated: "they don't even BEGIN to question or debate it...."

Maybe you're a moron who can't read? :unsure:

do they question or debate everything they report?

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The BBC 1 o Clock have just reported this. However they are incapable of reporting without the inevitable upward spin at the end with the comment "as buyers return to the housing market." :unsure:

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I stated: "they don't even BEGIN to question or debate it...."

Does any journalist though?

When you are passionate about a topic you realise the number of basic facts that are wrong in just about every article concerning it.

90% of news is just press association articles reworded or press releases reformated. Although journalists get very arsey if you point this out!

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Do you think it would be wrong of the Govt to try and get people to save for retirement?

It's not the role of the Government to try and get us to do anything. If anything, they are our servants.

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