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Guest BAREBEAR_soon to be ALIVA

Sounds like a bit of a stunt to me.

He can always take out a private prosecution but it looks like he's not prepared to do that, it does cost a lot.

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What should REALLY be challenged is the way this Bitch presided over overturning enshrined laws in the Magna Carta (Liberatum) .

What little freedom we all had, has been systematically erased by Schmit and her fellow 'Beast' brethren which reside in Parliament at present.

WE are all Guilty - until we prove ourselves innocent in their eyes!

Do you ever wonder how many GUILTY fraudulant money dippers were practising MP/Barristers who let these laws through?

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I hope they do, best place for them is behind bars. Or even better, in a zoo.

Standing in line at the local Jobcentre.

Some of them could do with some 'life experience'.

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The Magistrate must have changed his mind, or has there been an appeal?

Basically the magistrate has said "ask the MET to peruse a criminal prosecution, if the Police or CPS are then bullied by the elite to drop the case then come back and launch your civil case".

Anyway, the fact a Home Secretary is allowed to remain with the backdrop of such fraud and controversy says a lot in itself and a lot about the sort of people who now rule this country. Only a few years ago anyone of any caliber would have resigned out of shame before the PM forced them to go, that's assuming somebody with such a lack of judgment would even be offered the job in the first place, or even be selected to enter the Commons.

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Basically the magistrate has said "ask the MET to peruse a criminal prosecution, if the Police or CPS are then bullied by the elite to drop the case then come back and launch your civil case".

Anyway, the fact a Home Secretary is allowed to remain with the backdrop of such fraud and controversy says a lot in itself and a lot about the sort of people who now rule this country. Only a few years ago anyone of any caliber would have resigned out of shame before the PM forced them to go, that's assuming somebody with such a lack of judgment would even be offered the job in the first place, or even be selected to enter the Commons.

Guido says a 26th June hearing date has been set, which suggests we have moved on from the BBC link story.

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Don't joke.

Having just read the book "Liberal Fascism" I am fairly convinced that the current Labour Government does in fact count as a Fascist organisation - that if you take the true sense of the word Fascist, ie the early Mussolini type and not the word as subsequently corrupted by Rascist National Socialism in Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

The key thing is whether they exceed what Scholars call the Fascist minimum. I personally think Labour has reached that point.

Perhaps they'll look like this shortly after the election:

PfascistsP.jpg

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Don't joke.

Having just read the book "Liberal Fascism" I am fairly convinced that the current Labour Government does in fact count as a Fascist organisation - that if you take the true sense of the word Fascist, ie the early Mussolini type and not the word as subsequently corrupted by Rascist National Socialism in Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

The key thing is whether they exceed what Scholars call the Fascist minimum. I personally think Labour has reached that point.

Perhaps they'll look like this shortly after the election:

PfascistsP.jpg

I'm not joking.

Mussolini invented facism because people weren't going for socialism. Facism is the original blueprint for "the third way."

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Don't joke.

Having just read the book "Liberal Fascism" I am fairly convinced that the current Labour Government does in fact count as a Fascist organisation - that if you take the true sense of the word Fascist, ie the early Mussolini type and not the word as subsequently corrupted by Rascist National Socialism in Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

The key thing is whether they exceed what Scholars call the Fascist minimum. I personally think Labour has reached that point.

Perhaps they'll look like this shortly after the election:

PfascistsP.jpg

Do you think there will be a March On Islington?

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Guest มร หล&#3
I'm not joking.

Mussolini invented facism because people weren't going for socialism. Facism is the original blueprint for "the third way."

So do I understand correctly that the Home Secretary of Her Majesty's Government is to be tried for fraud? In criminal law?

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So do I understand correctly that the Home Secretary of Her Majesty's Government is to be tried for fraud? In criminal law?

That's what the reasonably assumed but not fully verified rumour is!

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So do I understand correctly that the Home Secretary of Her Majesty's Government is to be tried for fraud? In criminal law?

Well a Magistrate has suggested the police look into it to see if there's grounds for a prosecution, then if the CPS are bought off as they were in the cash for peerages scandal, they should pursue a civil case.

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That's what the reasonably assumed but not fully verified rumour is!

It's more like this place every day!

In the 1990's, the Thai Foreign Secretary was on the FBI's 10 most wanted list for importing around 50 tons of heroin/cannabis into San Francisco. Oh how I laughed . . . :lol:

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I thought the taxpayers alliance was also looking into taking legal action against MPs.

if this happens and they get convictions i will happily donate to the taxpayers alliance for their sterling work, i know of lots of other who would too

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Don't joke.

Having just read the book "Liberal Fascism" I am fairly convinced that the current Labour Government does in fact count as a Fascist organisation - that if you take the true sense of the word Fascist, ie the early Mussolini type and not the word as subsequently corrupted by Rascist National Socialism in Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

The key thing is whether they exceed what Scholars call the Fascist minimum. I personally think Labour has reached that point.

Perhaps they'll look like this shortly after the election:

PfascistsP.jpg

would be more fun seeing them parked outside the local town hall like this!!

cgon227l.jpg

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I'm not joking.

Mussolini invented facism because people weren't going for socialism. Facism is the original blueprint for "the third way."

If you really want to be scared about where the UK could now be heading, just listen to this recording of Sir Oswald Moseley and tell me whether it might be a popular thing to say today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zSEi3IS340

I believe many are saying the same thing today and that's because its the basic concept of Fascist Popularism. When the public are sick of financial collapse and corrupt politicians, they on occasions decide to sweep them away with a fascist movement. Of course the fascist movement merely serves to continue to protect the banking and industrial vested interests by screwing down on small firms and the competition.

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I am bit concerned about this. If Weaver is a well intentioned amateur and

“Outside court, Mr Weaver said he was disappointed to leave without a summons but would consider contacting Scotland Yard although he said he thought it was "a dead end" and that he been "fobbed off".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england...cs/8063768.stm”

would suggest he might be and this thing takes it’s course and Smith is acquitted because Weaver doesn’t have the professional skill to present the case properly, rules of double jeopardy may well mean Smith cannot be tried for this again.

Second, if the case is heard in the magistrates court a district judge is far more likely to acquit, as a member of the legal establishment, than a jury in the crown court.

In front of a jury, she is toast.

Third, the sentencing powers of a magistrates court are far less powerful than a crown court.

As a mechanism to keep the pressure up, this is very encouraging but Weaver might be well advised to keep his saber in its sheath for now.

The district judge, Morgan’s, comments

"I am not going to grant or dismiss the summons," said district judge Bruce Morgan, sitting at Redditch Magistrates' Court.

"It is my belief that the course on which this should proceed is by you making a complaint to the Metropolitan Police and finding out whether or not they are prepared to carry out an investigation.

If they decide not to do so, that does not deprive you of your right to come back to court."

are completely correct and what I would have looked for.

A properly resourced organized campaign to bring the bastards to justice would be more effective than what Weaver is suggesting.

"If you believe a Member of Parliament is guilty of fraud go to your nearest magistrates court, type out four lines alleging the fraud and ask for a summons.

Anthony Weaver"

Weaver's contribution might be greater if he were to work from within such a tent rather than without.

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if this happens and they get convictions i will happily donate to the taxpayers alliance for their sterling work, i know of lots of other who would too

Me too.

£20 well spent. :)

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if this happens and they get convictions i will happily donate to the taxpayers alliance for their sterling work, i know of lots of other who would too

As will I - however how sad that in a supposed democracy the people have to resort to this kind of tactic to rid themselves of a corrupt leadership party.

How far we have fallen - I mourn integrity.

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