Uk's Foreign Baby Boom

[Johnny Storm]

They only show negatives and would be the worst thing ever to happen to this country.

I think we are already at that point. Personally I see them as every day people (BNP) who see the terrible damage done to their home and want the best for it and the native people. You just need to read their website and the people who post there. Its not skinheads wanting violence, its desparate every day people. Just like you and me. Its not gas chambers, its common sense ideas. Seriously read the website. Find me some policies that you think are so terrible.

I dont see them as Nazis, because that is just media nonsense. If you recall the Tories fought their last election on the premise "Its not racist to be concerned about immigration" If you remove the Scottish votes from the equation the tories had the most votes!

[Cinnamon]

With respect.

I think you are in a minority.

The majority of disaffected conservative voters will be voting for UKIP in the European elections I think.

And the vast majority of people voting BNP will be ex-Labour supporters because, as Lord Tebbit pointed out on TV the other day, the BNP are a socialist party.

http://www.thelondondailynews.com/pollboot...&pollid=134

Labour : 7.27% (360)

Conservative : 38.03% (1882)

Liberal Democrat : 12.83% (635)

Green : 1.96% (97)

BNP : 33.50% (1658)

UKIP : 3.90% (193)

Other : 2.51% (124)

Read this and the comments on that page...

You're deluding yourself here, immigration is a huge issue and it does not matter what else the BNP 'offers', because people are seeing this as an existential threat -- for many people, Gaza style ghettos have opened up shop in their neighborhood and whether the BNP are socialist or not, we already have socialist thieves and traitors in parliament now, a lot of people figure it cannot get worse than that. (it can, and will tho)

This talking down of the BNP and insulting their supporters is a huge mistake, and won't wash, in fact, it is annoying people into taking the BNP's side.

[JonoP]

So are you telling me I should vote for the BNP then?

How many people have you recruited for them FFS

Are they paying you?

I am telling you that I think you are dumb. Who you choose to vote for is your own business.

[Game_Over]

I'm looking at UKIP.

Not convinced yet, but BNP isn't an option..

They don't offer how we'd move forward; just how we'd remove people. And much of what they'd remove make this country flourish.

I think UKIP could knock Labour into third place which would be a historic achievement and might make the Conservatives look seriously at adopting a more Eurosceptic approach at the next general election.

The EU is a corrupt and anti democratic organisation as far as I am concerned and needs serious reform, or if that fails abolition.

[Game_Over]

I am telling you that I think you are dumb. Who you choose to vote for is your own business.

Not as dumb as you my friend

because I'm not encouraging people to vote for the BNP am I

[Cinnamon]

Cinnamon – your profile picture on the forum is of someone eating a baby. Nice. Says it all really.

Ah I see, you have studied the Nazi/Islam history then already? It looks to me tho, as if you're still struggeling with that line, hook and sinker you've been dining on. I was hopin to unstick your record there a bit, but it looks like you're still stuck on the Tourettes requiem for Labours' New Britain.

And yeah, that picture is nasty, but, it is what the boomers have done to this country, they've cannibalised their grandchildren comprehensively.

[Johnny Storm]

http://www.thelondondailynews.com/pollboot...&pollid=134

Labour : 7.27% (360)

Conservative : 38.03% (1882)

Liberal Democrat : 12.83% (635)

Green : 1.96% (97)

BNP : 33.50% (1658)

UKIP : 3.90% (193)

Other : 2.51% (124)

I am seriously impressed with those figures. I mean wow! Maybe there is some hope for this country after all.

[JonoP]

http://www.thelondondailynews.com/pollboot...&pollid=134

Labour : 7.27% (360)

Conservative : 38.03% (1882)

Liberal Democrat : 12.83% (635)

Green : 1.96% (97)

BNP : 33.50% (1658)

UKIP : 3.90% (193)

Other : 2.51% (124)

Read this and the comments on that page...

You're deluding yourself here, immigration is a huge issue and it does not matter what else the BNP 'offers', because people are seeing this as an existential threat -- for many people, Gaza style ghettos have opened up shop in their neighborhood and whether the BNP are socialist or not, we already have socialist thieves and traitors in parliament now, a lot of people figure it cannot get worse than that. (it can, and will tho)

This talking down of the BNP and insulting their supporters is a huge mistake, and won't wash, in fact, it is annoying people into taking the BNP's side.

Ah yes, the London Daily News Internet Poll. MORI are running scared. For a laugh, go and have a look at the 'comments' that the BNP supporters have left (if you can actually work out what they are trying to spell). Even if they did pose a threat at the election (which they do not) it would come to nothing because they are too thick to find their way to the polling booths.

And another question, why are BNP supporters all so FAT????

[pie-eater]

I think UKIP could knock Labour into third place which would be a historic achievement and might make the Conservatives look seriously at adopting a more Eurosceptic approach at the next general election.

The EU is a corrupt and anti democratic organisation as far as I am concerned and needs serious reform, or if that fails abolition.

I want reform. Mainly reform of the state that gives spongers the free house and benefit.

We are too quick to give people a free house and 'their money'. The money they are given is ours!

We should look at the US benefit system for long-term spongers, and the French fro immagrents........

I'd never vote BNP, though.

[Cinnamon]

Ah yes, the London Daily News Internet Poll. MORI are running scared. For a laugh, go and have a look at the 'comments' that the BNP supporters have left (if you can actually work out what they are trying to spell). Even if they did pose a threat at the election (which they do not) it would come to nothing because they are too thick to find their way to the polling booths.

And another question, why are BNP supporters all so FAT????

Yeah nothing to worry about at all, move along now and go back to sleep everyone.

And I've looked at the comments ... and what I see is sheeple who have started to think for themselves, and this normally is the time when serious trouble starts. (did I mention you should start studying history? Nazis and their connection to Islam too tough a study for you? Try here instead: http://thehistoryofrome.typepad.com/the_hi.../11/index.html)

[Johnny Storm]

We should look at the US benefit system for long-term spongers, and the French fro immagrents........

I'd never vote BNP, though.

What are you talking about? Lets look at Paris for immigrants and the months of riots they had there.

You just seem to keep repeating yourself, why dont you do as I suggested and look on their website and actually have an argument on a policy you disagree with. or you could just keep saying the same again and again.

[Game_Over]

Ah yes, the London Daily News Internet Poll. MORI are running scared. For a laugh, go and have a look at the 'comments' that the BNP supporters have left (if you can actually work out what they are trying to spell). Even if they did pose a threat at the election (which they do not) it would come to nothing because they are too thick to find their way to the polling booths.

And another question, why are BNP supporters all so FAT????

You seem to know a Hell of a lot about BNP supporters, how do you deduce they are fat from comments on internet forums?

Seems like virtually everyone who was going to vote Labour in the European elections is now going to vote for the BNP

Are they all fat? I don't know

But one thing I do know is that in a democracy their vote is worth exactly the same as yours

Perhaps the mainstream parties need to start taking ordinary people's genuine and reasonable concerns more seriously, otherwise other people will.

[pie-eater]

What are you talking about? Lets look at Paris for immigrants and the months of riots they had there.

You just seem to keep repeating yourself, why dont you do as I suggested and look on their website and actually have an argument on a policy you disagree with. or you could just keep saying the same again and again.

Repeating?

Immigrants enrich.

There you go.

[Game_Over]

Repeating?

Immigrants enrich.

They you go.

In that case we should be the richest country in the world and were aren't

by all measures both economic and social our society is going down the toilet at a frightening rate

[Johnny Storm]

You just need to look at Scotland Yards most wanted to see just how enriched we have become!

http://www.met.police.uk/wanted/

[pie-eater]

In that case we should be the richest country in the world and were aren't

by all measures both economic and social our society is going down the toilet at a frightening rate

I never said it was a great thing.

We're overall enriched by the fact they come here to work, and work ******ing hard.

We've(you and me) have been lazy - they fill that gap

[Game_Over]

http://www.thelondondailynews.com/pollboot...&pollid=134

Labour : 7.27% (360)

Conservative : 38.03% (1882)

Liberal Democrat : 12.83% (635)

Green : 1.96% (97)

BNP : 33.50% (1658)

UKIP : 3.90% (193)

Other : 2.51% (124)

Read this and the comments on that page...

You're deluding yourself here, immigration is a huge issue and it does not matter what else the BNP 'offers', because people are seeing this as an existential threat -- for many people, Gaza style ghettos have opened up shop in their neighborhood and whether the BNP are socialist or not, we already have socialist thieves and traitors in parliament now, a lot of people figure it cannot get worse than that. (it can, and will tho)

This talking down of the BNP and insulting their supporters is a huge mistake, and won't wash, in fact, it is annoying people into taking the BNP's side.

I think London is a special case, because it has been hit hardest by mass, uncontrolled immigration

I think Labours vote in the areas where the BNP has done well in council elections will collapse, but over the whole country I think that the order of success will be

Conservatives

UKIP

BNP

Lib Dems

Labour

Other

Whatever happens, it will be very interesting to see the results.

[Sibley's Love Child]

slurms mackenzie – yes, I have lived in ‘ethnically diverse areas’ I lived for 5 years in Queens Park in Bedford. And I liked it

Wow, five years in Bedford, you must have really been slumming it with those undesirable 'coloured cousins' of ours. As of 2005, Black and Asian Ethnic Minorities constituted 15% of the local population. I imagine the scales must have fallen from your eyes. I suggest you try living in a real ethnic ghetto a la Walworth before attesting to the benefits of mass immigration.

[Game_Over]

I never said it was a great thing.

We're overall enriched by the fact they come here to work, and work ******ing hard.

We've(you and me) have been lazy - they fill that gap

Yes, but it was a gap that didn't need filling

If we had not had mass immigration wages would have risen to the point where it would have been worth people like you and me working

And there would have been plenty of affordable housing

But the champagne socialists wanted cheap nannies, maids, builders and waiters in posh restaurants

And they wanted their London homes to be worth millions

Pick the bones out of that

[Harry Monk]

BNP offer nothing. Nothing.

They only show negatives and would be the worst thing ever to happen to this country.

I agree, but the BNP are going to make huge inroads if the mainstream parties don't take their heads out of the sand and start addressing immigration.

[Cinnamon]

I never said it was a great thing.

We're overall enriched by the fact they come here to work, and work ******ing hard.

We've(you and me) have been lazy - they fill that gap

Sadly so, this is a propaganda lie.

See here:

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=462

Unemployment rates for people from non-White ethnic groups were generally higher than those from White ethnic groups. However, Indian men had a similar level of unemployment to Other White men, at 7 per cent and 6 per cent respectively.

In 2004 Pakistani women had the highest unemployment rates in Great Britain, at 20 per cent. The next highest female rates were among women from the Black African or Mixed ethnic groups (each 12 per cent). These rates were around three times the rates for White British and White Irish women (4 per cent each). The unemployment rates for Black Caribbean (9 per cent), Indian (8 per cent) and Chinese (7 per cent) women were around twice the rates for White British and White Irish women.

Among men, those from Black Caribbean, Black African, Bangladeshi and Mixed ethnic groups had the highest unemployment rates (between 13 and 14 per cent). These rates were around three times the rates for White British and White Irish men (5 per cent in each case). The unemployment rates for Pakistani and Chinese men, 11 and 10 per cent, were around twice the rates for White British men or White Irish men.

The unemployment rate for Indian men (7 per cent) was similar to those for White British or White Irish men.

[pie-eater]

Yes, but it was a gap that didn't need filling

If we had not had mass immigration wages would have risen to the point where it would have been worth people like you and me working

And there would have been plenty of affordable housing

But the champagne socialists wanted cheap nannies, maids, builders and waiters in posh restaurants

And they wanted their London homes to be worth millions

Pick the bones out of that

Like it or not, our green and pleasnt land has been abused

We were/are rich and for the taking.

Now it's all broken, we have to pay.

[Georgia O'Keeffe]

Yes, but it was a gap that didn't need filling

If we had not had mass immigration wages would have risen to the point where it would have been worth people like you and me working

And there would have been plenty of affordable housing

But the champagne socialists wanted cheap nannies, maids, builders and waiters in posh restaurants

And they wanted their London homes to be worth millions

Pick the bones out of that

its pretty clear that the immigration policy was purely to put off the pensions timebomb in that there were not enough UK workers to pay for those who were retiring, the population demographic of the UK with falling birth rates made pensions unsustainable. No doubt Browns plan was to solve this by immigration, of course this makes it a classic ponzi scheme and unfortunately for Brown it has imploded on his watch (no doubt his plan was to make it someone elses problem by delaying it further through immigration). The next few years are clearly going to be dire in the UK. Ironically i think the population demographic is a direct result of crazy living costs (including House price inflation) in the UK forcing both partners to work , making children unaffordable

[pie-eater]

its pretty clear that the immigration policy was purely to put off the pensions timebomb in that there were not enough UK workers to pay for those who were retiring, the population demographic of the UK with falling birth rates made pensions unsustainable. No doubt Browns plan was to solve this by immigration, of course this makes it a classic ponzi scheme and unfortunately for Brown it has imploded on his watch (no doubt his plan was to make it someone elses problem by delaying it further through immigration). The next few years are clearly going to be dire in the UK. Ironically i think the population demographic is a direct result of crazy living costs (including House price inflation) in the UK forcing both partners to work , making children unaffordable

I'm lucky; I have a pension that's sorted that YOU pay for. What about you, or your kids?

[Georgia O'Keeffe]

I'm licky; I have a pension that's sorted that YOU pay for. What about you, or your kids?

i very much doubt that i pay for it as im not based in the UK any longer, and no pension is guaranteed, , i assume you are in the public sector, all they need to do is introduce an inflation cap of 2.5% as they recently did with private final salary schemes and the debt will be magicked away over the coming years.