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A MIGRANT baby boom is sending Britain’s pop­ulation soaring with one in four children now born to foreign mothers.

Of the 708,708 births last year, 170,089 or 24 per cent were to immigrant mothers. It is the highest number of migrant births in the UK since records began.

The increase will worry ministers because it threatens to put even more pressure on public services, with schools and hospitals already struggling to cope.

Sir Andrew Green, of the respected think tank Migrationwatch UK, said: “These ­figures illustrate the massive impact immigration is having, not only on our population but also on our society.

“It’s no wonder our polls show nearly 80 per cent of ­people are concerned about the high level of immigration to the UK and more than 70 per cent want to see a huge cut.

“The number of babies born to immigrant mothers is a clear-cut example of the pressure that massive numbers of immigrants place on our public services.”

Such is the rapid increase in the migrant birth rate that this year it is expected to be the biggest cause of population growth, outstripping immig­ration for the first time.

The number of babies born to UK-born mothers has risen by six per cent in the six years to 2007, but the figure for immigrant mothers leapt by 64 per cent, accounting for two thirds of the increase in the nation’s birth rate.

In London the figure is 54 per cent, rising to 75 per cent in some boroughs. Foreign-born mothers have an average of 2.54 children, compared with 1.79 for women born in the UK.

A record number of immigrants settled in the UK in the year to June 2007, topping 600,000 for the first time and helping push Britain’s population to a new high of 60,975,000, a rise of almost two million in six years.

On average 1,650 newcomers are settling here every day. There are currently 6.3 million people in the UK who were born abroad – more than 10 per cent of the population and 1.1 million more than in 2004.

The pressure on maternity services has been acute and some wards have been forced to turn away expectant mothers because they cannot cope.

Louise Silverton, deputy general secretary of the Royal College of Midwives, said: “This is piling more pressure on overworked midwives and pushing maternity services – already operating at full capacity – beyond their limit.

Is the birth rate in the UK going up? The article isn't clear. If immigrants are having children here and increasing the birth rate then we are going to have major problems. If the birth rate is stable then this is a scare story.

How many of these immigrants have no left the UK as the figures are for last year?

Long term are we going to see a housing shortage if the population keeps growing at this rate? Exponential growth again.

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This doesn't come as any surprise. In some wards within the London Borough of Southwark (specifically Peckham, Camberwell & Walworth) Black and Ethnic Minorities (BME) account for around two thirds of the local population...

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I'm not sure this put much price pressure in place. It seems most births are occuring from mothers with the least amount of income. In many cases it will mean extra taxes will be needed to house these families via some form of government assistance.

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Of the 708,708 births last year, 170,089 or 24 per cent were to immigrant mothers. It is the highest number of migrant births in the UK since records began.

More to the point "what sort of immigrants"?

If you're talking fairly short term migrant labour who'll head back to E. Europe in a couple of years that's one thing.

More likely the kids are being born to Afghan/Somalli asylum seekers or illegals; the parents have come here for the benefits system only and the kids will be a drain on the system for their lives.

Ignoring the question about whether this is desirable or not, it is quite simply unaffordable.

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More to the point "what sort of immigrants"?

If you're talking fairly short term migrant labour who'll head back to E. Europe in a couple of years that's one thing.

More likely the kids are being born to Afghan/Somalli asylum seekers or illegals; the parents have come here for the benefits system only and the kids will be a drain on the system for their lives.

Ignoring the question about whether this is desirable or not, it is quite simply unaffordable.

Bufton-Tufton sorts like yourself used to howl and whine about the collapsing birth rates.

Now they are back up, you aren't happy about that either.

The arguments were never really economic were they.

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I'm not sure this put much price pressure in place. It seems most births are occuring from mothers with the least amount of income. In many cases it will mean extra taxes will be needed to house these families via some form of government assistance.

Not that this offers much re-assurance.

Sorry Mr. Worker, we're going to put your taxes up your taxes up another 10% to pay for the latest batch of social housing claimants. Yes I appreciate that you're working 50 hours a week to pay the rent on your bedsit, whilst we give them a house plus an income for free, but we do have a moral obligation to help the needy and there's so many of them.......

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Bufton-Tufton sorts like yourself used to howl and whine about the collapsing birth rates.

Now they are back up, you aren't happy about that either.

The arguments were never really economic were they.

I've had to google Bufton-Tufton (private eye stereotype con. mp) and I'm still not totally sure what your point is.

Is it unreasonble to question if having 25% of births to mothers who've come from overseas, the vast majority of whom have come to milk the benefit system, and who will never work, is a good thing.

Edit to add:

I'm to young to have whined about falling birth rates; equally the B-T comparison is similarly flawed.

Is your stock response to anybody who suggests that perhaps we ought to be looking out for our own interests for once to shout "Biggot" and "Racist"?

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One thing you can rely on in this country is for the chav enderclass to express their racist tendacies as soon as their benefits are threatened.

I predict enforced repatriation within a decade.

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Not that this offers much re-assurance.

Sorry Mr. Worker, we're going to put your taxes up your taxes up another 10% to pay for the latest batch of social housing claimants. Yes I appreciate that you're working 50 hours a week to pay the rent on your bedsit, whilst we give them a house plus an income for free, but we do have a moral obligation to help the needy and there's so many of them.......

According to Cogs (on another thread) the benefit system is an evil capitalist tool used to oppress the masses

It is not a Nu Labour Socialist abomination at all

So now you know

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Good article I remember from a way back; just found it again

he industrious Poles, we are told, will pay for our pensions - but of course they won’t; they work here for a year or two in low-paid, low-taxed jobs and then get the hell out, as we are seeing right now. Almost all the eastern Europeans who come here find work and work very hard - and then they leave.

The immigrants who do stay are those who, like the Somalians, do absolutely no work whatsoever and instead live off state benefits.

The latest figures suggest that more than 80% of Somalians in Britain do no paid work at all. However, these immigrants are very busy in other ways; almost a quarter of children born in this country are now the offspring of women who were themselves born abroad - and not largely, I suspect, in Lvov or Gdansk. The cost of providing maternity services to immigrants has doubled in the past 10 years.

Either way you look at it, immigration will not be an answer to our economic problems, even if you accept that we may have a moral duty to accept incomers from places which, even by our falling standards, are magnificently unpleasant, such as Somalia.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/c...icle4596795.ece

Hardly your typical BNP skinhead thug writing either (although he is a Millwall fan so maybe he just hides it well).

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Don't worry

My post vote just arrived

I put my "X" in the RIGHT place ;)

Mike

Yes and it will probably never be counted.

Seriously you should go and vote in person, even then Labour supporting council staff will probably 'lose' the offending ballot box.

Even post boxes have been set on fire in areas thought to be voting the 'wrong way' in previos elections

I believe the term used was 'Banana Republic'

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I'm not sure this put much price pressure in place. It seems most births are occuring from mothers with the least amount of income. In many cases it will mean extra taxes will be needed to house these families via some form of government assistance.

and whilst prices are above 2001 levels they will not be able to afford to buy anything at all.

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This doesn't come as any surprise. In some wards within the London Borough of Southwark (specifically Peckham, Camberwell & Walworth) Black and Ethnic Minorities (BME) account for around two thirds of the local population...

but these will be British citizens, unlike eastern European single mothers............. & some (I'm trying to be pc) will be competing for the same housing.

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According to Cogs (on another thread) the benefit system is an evil capitalist tool used to oppress the masses

It is not a Nu Labour Socialist abomination at all

So now you know

:blink:

:lol:

Nice to know I've "rocked your world" with a new thought.

I wonder what other scared cows can be shoved onto the barbecue?

Amazing isn't it.

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One thing you can rely on in this country is for the chav enderclass to express their racist tendacies as soon as their benefits are threatened.

I predict enforced repatriation within a decade.

Can we apply that to Gordon and the Badger?

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In 2007 it was reported that Mohammed was the 2nd most popular baby boy's name link . Perhaps the ONS have yet to publish the up-to-date data, as so far the only survey was this... link

Clearly it will be number 1 now. The question is, will the channels suppress this item of news? Wouldn't surprise me. It is getting harder to find schools where English children aren't in a minority - the figures are truly horrific http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11...d-language.html

Still, finally we have a chance to show the establishment what we think... June 4th here we come.

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Good article I remember from a way back; just found it again

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/c...icle4596795.ece

Hardly your typical BNP skinhead thug writing either (although he is a Millwall fan so maybe he just hides it well).

Yes, but the immigrants who come here from Somalia tend to be...

20-40years old - therefore no cost in educating them, those that do work go straight into work.

Mostly Male - more likely to work and not be pregnant or a housewife.

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:lol:

Nice to know I've "rocked your world" with a new thought.

I wonder what other scared cows can be shoved onto the barbecue?

Amazing isn't it.

I was a socialist when I was young, I was devastated when Thatcher won in 1979

But then I left school at 16, got a job, bought a 3 bed semi, then a 5 bed detached, then paid my mortgage off

All under a Conservative government.

I then (god forgive me) voted for Tony Blair in 1997.

Since then we have had 12 years of Socialism, for 5 years of which I haven't worked.

Nu Labour Socialism has been an absolute disaster for this country and we are now back to exactly where we were in 1978, morally and economically bankrupt.

You can call it what you like, but it isn't Capitalism.

Capitalism is the only thing that will now save our economy.

Big cuts in benefits and public spending together with cuts in taxes on jobs.

Anything else and we will be F*cked for generations.

IMHO

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I've had to google Bufton-Tufton (private eye stereotype con. mp) and I'm still not totally sure what your point is.

Is it unreasonble to question if having 25% of births to mothers who've come from overseas, the vast majority of whom have come to milk the benefit system, and who will never work, is a good thing.

Edit to add:

I'm to young to have whined about falling birth rates; equally the B-T comparison is similarly flawed.

Is your stock response to anybody who suggests that perhaps we ought to be looking out for our own interests for once to shout "Biggot" and "Racist"?

My 'stock response'? No. We have a duty to look out for ourselves.

You are however clearly being a bigot now with your assumptions about the motivations of people and what their children will inevitably grow up into. I know many people here will tell you that a nation without a state and low, low taxes is guaranteed to be a utopia but I don't believe that is actually true of Somalia. Whether your views were motivated by racism on your part, I don't know.

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Yes, but the immigrants who come here from Somalia tend to be...

20-40years old - therefore no cost in educating them, those that do work go straight into work.

Mostly Male - more likely to work and not be pregnant or a housewife.

You are taking the p*ss, aren't you?

Even the official statistics don't support this bizarre viewpoint.

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Not that this offers much re-assurance.

Sorry Mr. Worker, we're going to put your taxes up your taxes up another 10% to pay for the latest batch of social housing claimants. Yes I appreciate that you're working 50 hours a week to pay the rent on your bedsit, whilst we give them a house plus an income for free, but we do have a moral obligation to help the needy and there's so many of them.......

I totally agree. This kind of government madness will fuel support for the BNP. With the government finances shot as they are, the country really cannot afford these luxuries.

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My 'stock response'? No. We have a duty to look out for ourselves.

You are however clearly being a bigot now with your assumptions about the motivations of people and what their children will inevitably grow up into. I know many people here will tell you that a nation without a state and low, low taxes is guaranteed to be a utopia but I don't believe that is actually true of Somalia. Whether your views were motivated by racism on your part, I don't know.

This is an utterly ridiculous statement - NO Capitalist economies have NO state.

What exists in Somalia is Anarchy.

People like you are going to have a very hard time understanding, let alone coping with what is going to happen in this country over the next few years

Because everything that has been bulit in the last 12 years is either going to collapse under its own weight or be dismantled piece by piece.

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