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Anthony Steen: 'You're all just jealous'

Tory maverick who quit after claiming expenses for 500 trees hits back, saying voters are only envious of his big house.

By Nigel Morris, Deputy Political Editor

Friday, 22 May 2009

A maverick Tory MP yesterday embarrassed his party but voiced what some of his colleagues have been privately thinking when he launched a spirited and controversial defence of the parliamentary expenses system.

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Anthony Steen said public "jealousy" was fuelling the furore and claimed that taxpayers have no right to see the details of individual MPs' claims.

Mr Steen made his comments in a BBC interview shortly after announcing that he would be standing down at the next election. His decision came after it emerged that he claimed £87,729 over four years to maintain his Devon country house. The payments included money to inspect some of the 500 trees surrounding the property and to guard his shrubs from rabbits.

But his attack embarrassed Conservative officials when he claimed that public outrage over MPs' expenses was unfair and misplaced. "I think I have behaved impeccably. I have done nothing criminal. And you know what it's about? Jealousy. I have got a very, very large house. Some people say it looks like Balmoral, but it's a merchant's house from the 19th century," he said. "We have a wretched Government here that has completely mucked up the system and caused the resignation of me and many others, because it was this Government that introduced the Freedom of Information Act and it is this Government that insisted on the things which caught me on the wrong foot."

Comparing the daily stream of revelations in The Daily Telegraph to a soap opera, he said: "What right does the public have to interfere in my private life? None. Do you know what this reminds me of? An episode of Coronation Street. This is a kangaroo court."

His outburst embarrassed Tory chiefs, who fear that continuing disclosures about wealthy MPs apparently milking the expenses system has undermined attempts to modernise the party's image. They warned him to stay silent in future – or become the first Tory to be stripped of the party whip over the expenses scandal.

Within hours he had issued an abject apology, saying: "I was so deeply upset with the situation, which resulted in me overreacting. I am sorry that in the heat of the moment I said inappropriate things... about the Freedom of Information Act, which I entirely support."

Mr Steen, 69, is among three senior Tory backbenchers who have announced they are to depart at the next election following the disclosure of their lavish expenses. A barrister by training, he has 35 years' unbroken service in the Commons, first as MP for Liverpool Wavertree and latterly for his South Devon seat. Although he has gained a reputation as a parliamentary loner, many veteran backbenchers of all parties privately share his frustration that they are being pilloried for claims they were privately encouraged to make over the years.

His anger over the relentless media scrutiny was echoed by Nadine Dorries, the Conservative MP for Mid-Bedfordshire. "The atmosphere in Westminster is unbearable," she wrote on her blog. "Everyone fears a suicide. If someone isn't seen, offices are called and checked."

Two other Tories – Sir Peter Viggers and Douglas Hogg – have announced their departure at the next election. Mr Cameron has made clear his anger with Sir Peter for claiming more than £30,000 for gardening over three years, including a £1,645 bill for a floating "duck island".

But the Tory leader faced accusations of double standards after he also gave support to Tory whip Bill Wiggin, who claimed £11,000 in mortgage payments against the wrong property. Labour claimed his situation echoed the cases of Labour MPs Elliot Morley and David Chaytor, who have been suspended from the party for claiming mortgage interests on homes whose mortgages had been paid off.

But Mr Cameron said: "He made, what I understand, is an honest mistake. If it wasn't an honest mistake he would be out of the door as well."

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Truly unbelievable...this chap should have his anus stapled to a tree and be pecked by Sparrows...he should stand down now, if this is sort of contempt he was for the electorate & replace him with a bouncy castle - I'm sure it would be more effective.

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The sooner he and all these other hos are out of a job, the better.

Check this out from BBC Radio 4: 'People are jealous of my house': link

"Power tends to corrupt,

and

absolute power corrupts absolutely"

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...this guy is still in the school playground and is living proof we need to overhaul our whole political system..... <_<

Is it even possible to be jealous of somebodys income when you provide that income and all that comes with it?

Yer these bad eggs should be made persona non grata nationwide.

Politics cannot be a career, or a substitute for thwarted ambition, we must have the best.

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I'm sure his remarks are fairly prevalent within the older Tories' inner circle...that is why I could never vote for such a party. These dinosaurs all need to go at the next election - the sooner the better.

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As an (ex) UK taxpayer, ie one who pays his damned wages AND his damned expenses, I have (sorry, had) EVERY right to see where his expenses, or my money, was being spent.

The sooner that they remember that they are SERVANTS the better for all of us.

This pompous side of the tories is what killed them last time, and if they're not careful, it will happen again (God forbid).

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and here's the dailymash's take -

Public are jealous of people who steal from them, claims Tory MP

"If a thief drives off in your car, you're not angry that he's stolen it, you're jealous because he now has a very nice car and you don't," says Sir Anthony *****

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Anthony Steen: 'You're all just jealous'

Funny old world, politics, and it makes for strange bedfellows.

Steen is my MP, and although I've never voted for him since I always vote Green party, he always seems like a decent bloke whenever I bump into him. He aligned himself strongly against GM crops and had the courage to share a public platform with some fairly extreme anti-GM characters, and I've always looked upon him as likeable and a bit of a maverick, even though Tory.

I had a feeling he was going to make the list big-time, since I looked up his expenses total a year ago and it was one of the highest in the country. (Totals have always been available - it's the breakdowns that are now making news).

I'm not defending him - he needs to go, along with a hundred or more others, plus the entire rulebook that the system is based on. I'm just adding a bit of local colour - grandee maybe, but amiable and quite hard-working grandee that played not an insignificant part in fighting the b@stard megacorps who are trying to shove frankenstein foods down our collective gullet.

R.I.P. mate. You might have been a trough-snouter, but you were an amiable trough-snouter with quite a few saving graces !

;)

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It was quite surreal. I thought it was satire at first, but no, just another day of the westminster horror show.

My thought exactly.

The party suggested he may want to retire.

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Is it even possible to be jealous of somebodys income when you provide that income and all that comes with it?

Yer these bad eggs should be made persona non grata nationwide.

Politics cannot be a career, or a substitute for thwarted ambition, we must have the best.

We do get the best. The best at "politics"*

*climbing the greasy internal selection pole, grubbing your way into power, giving media platitudes, toeing the party line.

This is why we will always get f.u.cknuts in positions of power, because our system selects and promotes those with political rather than intellectual, moral or leadership skills.

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"Mr Grange allegedly sent inappropriate e-mails from his office computer to a woman, who subsequently complained, and it is believed that a financial investigation is centred on mileage claims for police work trips. It is also understood that he quit only after Dyfed Powys Police Authority refused his requests for backing."

Mr Grange was a Chief Constable in 2007 when he was forced to resign.

so this man fiddles his mileage claims small beer, and yet loses his job.....BUT like all those in public life that resign, he still gets his pension.

If it warrants CRIMINAL investigation for a Chief Constable enlarging mileage claims, as it does with ANYBODY who does the same, then the MPs are clearly in the same boat..Hiding behind a facard of technicalities of the "system" does not cut the mustard.

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We do get the best. The best at "politics"*

*climbing the greasy internal selection pole, grubbing your way into power, giving media platitudes, toeing the party line.

This is why we will always get f.u.cknuts in positions of power, because our system selects and promotes those with political rather than intellectual, moral or leadership skills.

Yes, I like the US way of appointing non-party experts into positions of power rather than party hacks. I find it amazing that they can rotate these people between trade / foreign office / prisons / economy when they clearly know nothing about any of them.

Obviously you have to be careful who you appoint. Brown was a catastrophically bad chancellor, but I'm not sure that I'd rather have had the then bright and shining star of RBS Fred Goodwin.

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I actually don't mind the things he said too much when he was angry, while I don't agree with them, It's possible to see where he was coming from.

it's the total retraction and apology that always comes after something like this that I don't like.

"Did I say I hated the FOIA?? I mean I LOVE the FOIA, and stand behind it fully."

it's so slimy and disingenuous.

they really should just take their graft and keep quiet.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/polit...us-1689211.html

Anthony Steen: 'You're all just jealous'

Tory maverick who quit after claiming expenses for 500 trees hits back, saying voters are only envious of his big house.

By Nigel Morris, Deputy Political Editor

Friday, 22 May 2009

A maverick Tory MP yesterday embarrassed his party but voiced what some of his colleagues have been privately thinking when he launched a spirited and controversial defence of the parliamentary expenses system.

Related articles

Anthony Steen said public "jealousy" was fuelling the furore and claimed that taxpayers have no right to see the details of individual MPs' claims.

Mr Steen made his comments in a BBC interview shortly after announcing that he would be standing down at the next election. His decision came after it emerged that he claimed £87,729 over four years to maintain his Devon country house. The payments included money to inspect some of the 500 trees surrounding the property and to guard his shrubs from rabbits.

But his attack embarrassed Conservative officials when he claimed that public outrage over MPs' expenses was unfair and misplaced. "I think I have behaved impeccably. I have done nothing criminal. And you know what it's about? Jealousy. I have got a very, very large house. Some people say it looks like Balmoral, but it's a merchant's house from the 19th century," he said. "We have a wretched Government here that has completely mucked up the system and caused the resignation of me and many others, because it was this Government that introduced the Freedom of Information Act and it is this Government that insisted on the things which caught me on the wrong foot."

Comparing the daily stream of revelations in The Daily Telegraph to a soap opera, he said: "What right does the public have to interfere in my private life? None. Do you know what this reminds me of? An episode of Coronation Street. This is a kangaroo court."

His outburst embarrassed Tory chiefs, who fear that continuing disclosures about wealthy MPs apparently milking the expenses system has undermined attempts to modernise the party's image. They warned him to stay silent in future – or become the first Tory to be stripped of the party whip over the expenses scandal.

Within hours he had issued an abject apology, saying: "I was so deeply upset with the situation, which resulted in me overreacting. I am sorry that in the heat of the moment I said inappropriate things... about the Freedom of Information Act, which I entirely support."

Mr Steen, 69, is among three senior Tory backbenchers who have announced they are to depart at the next election following the disclosure of their lavish expenses. A barrister by training, he has 35 years' unbroken service in the Commons, first as MP for Liverpool Wavertree and latterly for his South Devon seat. Although he has gained a reputation as a parliamentary loner, many veteran backbenchers of all parties privately share his frustration that they are being pilloried for claims they were privately encouraged to make over the years.

His anger over the relentless media scrutiny was echoed by Nadine Dorries, the Conservative MP for Mid-Bedfordshire. "The atmosphere in Westminster is unbearable," she wrote on her blog. "Everyone fears a suicide. If someone isn't seen, offices are called and checked."

Two other Tories – Sir Peter Viggers and Douglas Hogg – have announced their departure at the next election. Mr Cameron has made clear his anger with Sir Peter for claiming more than £30,000 for gardening over three years, including a £1,645 bill for a floating "duck island".

But the Tory leader faced accusations of double standards after he also gave support to Tory whip Bill Wiggin, who claimed £11,000 in mortgage payments against the wrong property. Labour claimed his situation echoed the cases of Labour MPs Elliot Morley and David Chaytor, who have been suspended from the party for claiming mortgage interests on homes whose mortgages had been paid off.

But Mr Cameron said: "He made, what I understand, is an honest mistake. If it wasn't an honest mistake he would be out of the door as well."

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Truly unbelievable...this chap should have his anus stapled to a tree and be pecked by Sparrows...he should stand down now, if this is sort of contempt he was for the electorate & replace him with a bouncy castle - I'm sure it would be more effective.

I bet David Cameron would like to feed him to the crows. :ph34r: He sounds the epitome of EVERYthing DC is working to dispel. An out-of-touch, supercilious, cheating pr**k.

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I bet David Cameron would like to feed him to the crows. :ph34r: He sounds the epitome of EVERYthing DC is working to dispel. An out-of-touch, supercilious, cheating pr**k.

Agree AnutJess,

I had a laugh at the "Just Jealous" quote. Playground antics an no mistake. :rolleyes:

We're not jealous you robbing tosser, we as taxpayers don't like theft, thats all.

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because it was this Government that introduced the Freedom of Information Act

Hmmmm.... so maybe not all bad after all.

Only 99% bad. ;)

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/polit...us-1689211.html

Anthony Steen: 'You're all just jealous'

Tory maverick who quit after claiming expenses for 500 trees hits back, saying voters are only envious of his big house.

By Nigel Morris, Deputy Political Editor

Friday, 22 May 2009

A maverick Tory MP yesterday embarrassed his party but voiced what some of his colleagues have been privately thinking when he launched a spirited and controversial defence of the parliamentary expenses system.

Related articles

Anthony Steen said public "jealousy" was fuelling the furore and claimed that taxpayers have no right to see the details of individual MPs' claims.

Mr Steen made his comments in a BBC interview shortly after announcing that he would be standing down at the next election. His decision came after it emerged that he claimed £87,729 over four years to maintain his Devon country house. The payments included money to inspect some of the 500 trees surrounding the property and to guard his shrubs from rabbits.

But his attack embarrassed Conservative officials when he claimed that public outrage over MPs' expenses was unfair and misplaced. "I think I have behaved impeccably. I have done nothing criminal. And you know what it's about? Jealousy. I have got a very, very large house. Some people say it looks like Balmoral, but it's a merchant's house from the 19th century," he said. "We have a wretched Government here that has completely mucked up the system and caused the resignation of me and many others, because it was this Government that introduced the Freedom of Information Act and it is this Government that insisted on the things which caught me on the wrong foot."

Comparing the daily stream of revelations in The Daily Telegraph to a soap opera, he said: "What right does the public have to interfere in my private life? None. Do you know what this reminds me of? An episode of Coronation Street. This is a kangaroo court."

His outburst embarrassed Tory chiefs, who fear that continuing disclosures about wealthy MPs apparently milking the expenses system has undermined attempts to modernise the party's image. They warned him to stay silent in future – or become the first Tory to be stripped of the party whip over the expenses scandal.

Within hours he had issued an abject apology, saying: "I was so deeply upset with the situation, which resulted in me overreacting. I am sorry that in the heat of the moment I said inappropriate things... about the Freedom of Information Act, which I entirely support."

Mr Steen, 69, is among three senior Tory backbenchers who have announced they are to depart at the next election following the disclosure of their lavish expenses. A barrister by training, he has 35 years' unbroken service in the Commons, first as MP for Liverpool Wavertree and latterly for his South Devon seat. Although he has gained a reputation as a parliamentary loner, many veteran backbenchers of all parties privately share his frustration that they are being pilloried for claims they were privately encouraged to make over the years.

His anger over the relentless media scrutiny was echoed by Nadine Dorries, the Conservative MP for Mid-Bedfordshire. "The atmosphere in Westminster is unbearable," she wrote on her blog. "Everyone fears a suicide. If someone isn't seen, offices are called and checked."

Two other Tories – Sir Peter Viggers and Douglas Hogg – have announced their departure at the next election. Mr Cameron has made clear his anger with Sir Peter for claiming more than £30,000 for gardening over three years, including a £1,645 bill for a floating "duck island".

But the Tory leader faced accusations of double standards after he also gave support to Tory whip Bill Wiggin, who claimed £11,000 in mortgage payments against the wrong property. Labour claimed his situation echoed the cases of Labour MPs Elliot Morley and David Chaytor, who have been suspended from the party for claiming mortgage interests on homes whose mortgages had been paid off.

But Mr Cameron said: "He made, what I understand, is an honest mistake. If it wasn't an honest mistake he would be out of the door as well."

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Truly unbelievable...this chap should have his anus stapled to a tree and be pecked by Sparrows...he should stand down now, if this is sort of contempt he was for the electorate & replace him with a bouncy castle - I'm sure it would be more effective.

he is a very, very large dick

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he is a very, very large dick

Didn't quite read that correctly first time round, but yes, you are right.

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His anger over the relentless media scrutiny was echoed by Nadine Dorries, the Conservative MP for Mid-Bedfordshire. "The atmosphere in Westminster is unbearable," she wrote on her blog. "Everyone fears a suicide. If someone isn't seen, offices are called and checked."

Now they know how it feels to be a British worker with seemingly permanent bouts of restructuring, cost cutting and efficiency drives. Its worse right now but I'd imagine for a lot of people this is has been a constant feature of their daily lives since they started work.

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Didn't quite read that correctly first time round, but yes, you are right.

It's interesting how you often get someone's true feelings when they are raw and angry. Seems he showed his true colours here before an embarrassing attempt at a retraction.

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This is a fantastic opportunity for DC to:

- get rid of people he doesn't like

- make borderline case people grateful to him for keeping them on

- install his preferred people in safe seats

No wonder he's taking such a hard line.

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i'm sorry but after reading this...

The payments included money to inspect some of the 500 trees surrounding the property and to guard his shrubs from rabbits.

i can't take seriously anything this spleen guy has to say. rabbits indeed. :lol:

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