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My Contract Has Just Been Outsourced...

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If it's any consolation, you haven't been made redundant. Your position has been.

But I'm not all semantics so fingers crossed you get something soon. Like many on here, I too wait for the axe to fall on a daily basis.

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I think the outsourcing of UK jobs to India, and elsewhere, is the political scandal yet to come to light.

If MPs have been, in their words, bending the rules on their expenses you have to wonder what has been going on when they have been involved in multi-million pounds public sector contract negotiations.

Of course, I am not saying they have done anything wrong but it is only Human to think about such things.

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I think the outsourcing of UK jobs to India, and elsewhere, is the political scandal yet to come to light.

If MPs have been, in their words, bending the rules on their expenses you have to wonder what has been going on when they have been involved in multi-million pounds public sector contract negotiations.

Of course, I am not saying they have done anything wrong but it is only Human to think about such things.

Can we outsource MPs?

VMR.

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Seriously, the worse thing about outsourcing is when they ask you to "help with the transition" in handing over your job to those wonderful cheap workers of the Indian human battery farms.. I now know what it must be like to be asked to dig your own grave before being shot...the bastards :angry:

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It was getting paid a hundred grand for a job you enjoy, wasn't it? I imagine the Indians are doing it for somewhat less.

Sorry to hear this.

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Sorry to hear your bad news.

Of course, all the successful business owners will be on shortly telling you to reskill and get another job, get on your bike...blah...blah...blah.

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Seriously, the worse thing about outsourcing is when they ask you to "help with the transition" in handing over your job to those wonderful cheap workers of the Indian human battery farms.. I now know what it must be like to be asked to dig your own grave before being shot...the bastards :angry:

Yep. I did that in 2003 before being kicked from a US company I'd worked for for 11 years.

Best laugh I had in the whole sorry event was when I was at US HQ for 2 weeks to "transition" the work to the Bangalore boys. Their commercial account manager was trying to suck up to me and a few others soon to be replaced who were from the EU. Tried to come across all flash and westernised and was telling me that his earnings were good. So good, in fact , that he'd bought a new suit from a local store at the local US mall. Great quality, he said. And cost him the big sum of $75. I opened the lapel of my suit and said "St. Laurent. Paris. About $600 of your US dollars. Got it in a sale" :)

He laughed as well and said he'd buy me lunch, but hoped my taste in food wasn't like my taste in suits or else he'd be bankrupt :D:D

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Seriously, the worse thing about outsourcing is when they ask you to "help with the transition" in handing over your job to those wonderful cheap workers of the Indian human battery farms.. I now know what it must be like to be asked to dig your own grave before being shot...the bastards :angry:

If this ever happened to me I'd just refuse to do it...what is the worst they can do? Discipline you? Sack you?

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I think the outsourcing of UK jobs to India, and elsewhere, is the political scandal yet to come to light.

If MPs have been, in their words, bending the rules on their expenses you have to wonder what has been going on when they have been involved in multi-million pounds public sector contract negotiations.

Of course, I am not saying they have done anything wrong but it is only Human to think about such things.

I can tell you first hand that money gets passed around on the backend for government contracts being outsourced. I saw it on a deal where the contract was mandated to include 300 call center jobs "within the British Isles" when funding was agreed but after some "political" negotiations" ended up in Bangalore. The company invloved was Capita...............

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Sorry to hear that! What sort of work was it?

Nice and safe I thought, a red brick university, not public sector but not far off.

They're replacing me with 3 indians and they reckon this will save money!!

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Was it done in a scripted way and it's about cost savings?

Oh yes.

But the reality is the consultancy I work for has opened a centre in bangalore, and now they've got to justify its existence.

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Seriously, the worse thing about outsourcing is when they ask you to "help with the transition" in handing over your job to those wonderful cheap workers of the Indian human battery farms.. I now know what it must be like to be asked to dig your own grave before being shot...the bastards :angry:

They asked me to do that. I told them to fccuuk off. I'd rather walk now.

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You dont say if its IT or not. But i guess it probably is. UK IT is definitely in decline, especially contracting.

If not the number of jobs then definitely the pay rates. Pay rates in IT contracting have been flat over last 10 years, while inflation is up atleast 33% over that time, if not more. Might still be tolerable if the work was fun. But in general its a crap lifestlye to be stuck in meetings or stuck in front of a screen all day.

Still if IT is new to you (less than 10 years) its still relatively well paid and probably still has some novelty value.

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You dont say if its IT or not. But i guess it probably is. UK IT is definitely in decline, especially contracting.

If not the number of jobs then definitely the pay rates. Pay rates in IT contracting have been flat over last 10 years, while inflation is up atleast 33% over that time, if not more. Might still be tolerable if the work was fun. But in general its a crap lifestlye to be stuck in meetings or stuck in front of a screen all day.

Still if IT is new to you (less than 10 years) its still relatively well paid and probably still has some novelty value.

Keeps me in shoes and sandwiches.

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It was getting paid a hundred grand for a job you enjoy, wasn't it? I imagine the Indians are doing it for somewhat less.

Sorry to hear this.

Re: It was getting paid a hundred grand for a job you enjoy, wasn't it?

:D Pride cometh before a fall and all that.

But...

They're costing £220 a day each to the project. (I assume they're not getting that much).

There are 3 of them.

I make that £150,000 a year unless I'm very much mistaken.

AND...

The loss to the UK is 100%.

I was caught by IR35 and taxed at almost 50%.

So for every £1 the government gave to the university, who paid for me, 50p went straight back in taxes.

The rest was either spent or saved in the UK - I don't even holiday abroad.

Now £600 a day will go straight to India and never be seen again.

Multiply this by a load of people and you have the tax black hole we see now.

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