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When the internet was first born there was arush to manage your own server, then it changed to hosted servers because they take away the hassle. Now i am totally contemplating getting my own server. One in england, one in the US and on in some strange far away land, maybe Somalia..... Set up my own e-mail system. They cant force countries outside of the UK to obey British law.

or get a server in a non english speaking country, like wales. the langauge barrier will keep them at bay.

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That feckless whore really has no clue. What she also fails to mention is the fact that they already have ample powers to intercept *any* communication and they already do it. Does she really believe that criminals would be daft enough to discuss their plans on a public communications network? :rolleyes: Stupid ****.

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I rejoice on hearing of measures such as this one. Only those with something to hide will have reservations.

I look forward to the day when our terribly caring government insists on placing a CCTV camera in the corner of my living room for my own safety and security because I'm wary of some baddy with a beard down to his knees clutching a copy of the Koran breaking in when I'm down Tesco's buying non-Halal meat.

It'll also prove invaluable should I ever trip over the hound when switching TV channels and bang my head as the nice person who's monitoring me will be able to call an ambulance a whole nanosecond before my wife would be able to.

Hooray.

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Communications firms are being asked to record all internet contacts between people as part of a modernisation in UK police surveillance tactics. The new system would track all e-mails, phone calls and internet use, including visits to social network sites.

Announcing a consultation on a new strategy for communications data and its use in law enforcement, Jacqui Smith said there would be no single government-run database. But she also said that "doing nothing" in the face of a communications revolution was not an option.

The Home Office will instead ask communications companies - from internet service providers to mobile phone networks - to extend the range of information they currently hold on their subscribers and organise it so that it can be better used by the police, MI5 and other public bodies investigating crime and terrorism.

"Communications data is an essential tool for law enforcement agencies to track murderers, paedophiles, save lives and tackle crime," Ms Smith said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8020039.stm

Subject of the Queen, Smith can ask whatver she want...but what about encrypted chat, encryped mail clients, tunneling networks, entirely closed web and pear to pear encrypted networks... monitor hew wide platsdarm yes, monitor the danger on the net, well no...these who need protection and privacy know how to hide, the normal user is not treat to nationa security, browsing porn is not going to blow buildings...Labours are seriously hilarious on ths topic. TLS IPSec and new protocls are developed each year, Transparent end-to-end encryption, other type of protocols make the monitoring impossible...The ammount of computing power and software that government must use in order to track and monitor people with skills is just beyond their wide imagination...So this is just another story of telling people big brother is watching...yeah it is, porn

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icq, msn, twitter, facebook, myspace, bebo all the other chat protocols. google chat, google video chat. Unless they record every last word we say it's all just noise. Even if they recorded it all rather than just who talked all they'd know is that a lot of people communicate all day long.

They aint got the money to keep up with the nation's surfing habits

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and thats just off nakedsweatyfattiemilfs.com

They blocked that one already. :(

Just think of all that extra power that people will now have to use, encrypting & unencrypting everything. It just sums up this government using loads of energy and time to accomplish nothing.

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It is actually a huge climb down by the Home Office and shows how the Governments dream of Omniscience based on control of all data is crumbling to dust as the reality of the implosion of tax yields begins to bite.

The key words are that the government is

announcing a consultation on a new strategy for communications data

Anyone who has ever had any dealings with Whitehall knows this is the type of statement released when an existing policy has been axed and the Civil Service want to kick the whole matter into the long grass where it can be quietly forgotten.

The reality was that the proposed database had precious little to do with National Security and was just a make work proposal for bureaucrats, consultants and the IT companies that have been bleeding the tax payer white for the best part of the last decade. It wont make much difference to the operation of the intelligence services who have always had means of accessing this data when required and already have their own systems for monitoring communications.

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The reason BT shares are cheaper then 20 years ago is because the goverment wants to take it over so it controls all the wires.

i'm going to go for one of the VPN connection so my ISP can not read jack $hit and before we get the nothing to hide reverse logic argument then where is open goverment that is bring out new laws by the day to try and hide information from the public.

Feel free to share all your emails with the world whilst i move towards protecting the privacy of what i say and people say to me and make no mistake protecting information will become just as big as tax avoidance with all it's account specialists it's just people have not realised how much they will need them yet.

hello GCHQ, semtex bomb manufactures and kill i hope you are reading this and lets talk about your pensions you won't be getting :lol: hope this is here in ten years time to remind you all.

They aint got the money to keep up with the nation's surfing habits

well yes they have it's your money but i don't think they asked you if this was how they should spend the money they force out of you each taxing day.

turn technoligy against those that whish us harmy like in the ian tomlnson case we all forgoton about becuase the Beeb forgot to remind us all once a day.

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Death to America incest donkey show bomb making tips and cocaine in my area

Go to about 3:20.

Edit: Nearly Forgot:

Semtex Bin Laden Death to Gordon Brown Anthrax Banking is Fraud Weapons of Mass Destruction Plutonium AK47

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Great terrarists will all use royal mail and Gordon Brown will keep himself busy policing my porn addiction. :angry:

shame the MP's don't do the same as it would save tax payers money as them cheeky ba$tards even dare claim that as a tax allowance and god knows how many hookers we are keeping in buishness from our taxes.

many people that have a thing about power also have a problom when it comes to sex

keep the right hand strong i say

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This amounts to what Orwell predicted in 1984.

The people who need monitoring are our MP's and police. Who kicks the crap out of peaceful demonstrators ? Who starts wars that kill hundreds of thousands on deliberately false intel ? Is it the average Joe at home, or those who now seek yet more powers ? Jack Boot Smith has lost the plot. I'd like to see CCTV in the house of commons bars. How about monitoring links between the police, big business and common purpose ? What about a proper debate on how we went to war wasting billions looking for WMD's that the Govt were told didn't exist ? How about telling us the truth about David Kelly's death ?

This appears to be another NWO mandate which we can ill afford. The elite want complete control - and a free internet is a threat.

I see Harperson is also at it with an unenforceable piece of legislation on removing class discrimination.

The lunatics are at the helm as the titanic steams on towards the iceberg of state bankruptcy.

This is one of the most succinct and intelligent posts I have seen here in several years.

What JS doesn't seem to realise is that there is an enormous distinction between nice old ladies and gentleman who thoroughly hate everything she stands for, and want to express that opinion legally, peacefully and vigorously, and some other person who wants to kill people because they think that is the only way. Our corrupt, greedy, expense fiddling Home Secretary lumps them all in to one category.

Consequently, even the most bland objector is increasingly appearing on government radar as a "terrorist" yet all they are doing is peacefully expressing an assumed right. This confusion between a real terrorist, so called, and a perfectly legitimate expression of disapproval is becoming so blurred that it is now a virtual certainty that anyone objecting to anything, in whatever way, is now a target for surveillance, dirty tricks, arrest and intimidation. This is an utterly disgraceful abuse of the very principles upon which this government came to power.

Moreover, this lack of discernment on the part of JS and other ministers and officials renders the whole system of policing, justice and law a complete lottery according to the next knee jerk reaction of a government which cannot make an intelligent assessment of the difference between democracy and its abuse.

We now have ever more desperate police raids and actions which seek to establish that there is a palpable "threat" to the nation. I don't believe a word of it, and it is very interesting to see that the latest "raid" has in fact ended in farce. Now, if there were really people just about to blow up an airliner, or town, or village, I would be the first to support any action to stop it. But the home office and police have cried wolf now so many times that I have become cynical about any claimed operation of this kind.

Furthermore, I find it extraordinary, as a brief example, that a few palpably peaceful protestors against a south coast arms producer have been hassled beyond belief by the police, who turned up with cameras to film them as though they were potential terrorists. Quite naturally the protestors thought they would return the favour and film the police filming them. Guess who won? Arrested, most of them. Then subsequently we find the police are "tipping off" said arms manufacturer, which is a consitutionally illegal act and immediately identifies the police as prime facie supporters of the arms trade.

This is absolutely appalling, but what it also serves to achieve is an increasing alienation with authority, because individual people within that authority are not only deeply flawed, like the rest of us, but they seriously think they can gain respect through abuse of their expenses, powers and influence, yet still imagine we are going to roll over and let them defecate on us from a great height.

They are living a fantasy that only arrives through a period far too long in office.

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And I would just like to add....

DEATH TO ALL WESTERNERS - HOLY JIHAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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And I would just like to add....

DEATH TO ALL WESTERNERS - HOLY JIHAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, just had an idea.

All we'd (i.e anyone who didn't want to sign up to a terrifying vision of an Orwellian surveillance Police State) need to do, surely, is send 3 or 4 e-mails per day full of "filter" words SECRET WEAPONS STASH CRUSH THE INFIDELS etc etc??

Wouldn't that pretty much balls the whole thing up for them, assuming sufficient numbers?

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