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Below are the Council Tax rises for Kent County Council since Labour took office. Aside from the elections years whereby they clearly lowered the rise to win votes, it is clear that inflation is rife in our public services. Did anyone get these types of pay rises each and every year ?

2005-06: 4.75%

2006-07: 4.95%

2007-08: 3.90%

2008-09: 2.85% [Election Year]

In shock news, the Council Tax rise immediately before the 2009 election is the lowest of the last four years. The same pattern emerged for the previous 4 year period:

2001-02: 9.20%

2002-03: 12.50%

2003-04: 5.66%

2004-05: 3.70% [Election Year]

...and for the previous 4 year election period:

1997-98: 13.15%

1998-99: 8.95%

1999-00: 8.40%

2000-01: 6.34% [Election Year]

...and for the previous 4 year election period:

1993-94: 7.20%

1994-95: 5.44%

1995-96: 5.57%

1996-97: 4.60% [Election Year]

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My Council Tax is now £1800 for a band E.

To earn that money I would have to earn 4k taking into account the cost of transport to get to work, Income Tax, etc.

With the average salary in the UK of 25k, how on earth can this continue as that is roughly 17% in real terms of someones earnings.

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My Council Tax is now £1800 for a band E.

To earn that money I would have to earn 4k taking into account the cost of transport to get to work, Income Tax, etc.

With the average salary in the UK of 25k, how on earth can this continue as that is roughly 17% in real terms of someones earnings.

I agree the council tax situation has got out of hand, costs in may areas have gone sky high.

Council tax increases are unsustainable. It will be interesting to see what happens if there is a mass default on council tax because it's too expensive.

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I agree the council tax situation has got out of hand, costs in may areas have gone sky high.

Council tax increases are unsustainable. It will be interesting to see what happens if there is a mass default on council tax because it's too expensive.

I cant see how it can possibly continue at the current levels. Council Tax was fine for many people when property prices were rising, they simply paid it on credit and took a MEW every few years to clear up their finances.

Without the ability to take money out of their houses people are only now just realising that they have been paying the mortgage with their wages, and living their lives on credit. As a result of this, Councils up and down the land have been increasing the costs of Council Tax knowing people will take on credit to pay it, but not factoring in a "What IF" scenario.

Unemployment puts huge strains on Councils resources, its clear that the current rate of Council Tax is unnafordable for many, and any further increases are out of the question for the vast majority of people as inflation takes hold in everyday essential costs.

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heres a comparison of what we pay in the small industrial shithole where I live compared to one of the wealthiest areas of the uk, hard to work out what we get for our money?

Area 'worst for unemployment'

The Wear Valley has been named as one of Britain's unemployment blackspots in a new study by the Work Foundation.

It said the area experienced a rise in the number of claimants from 1,117 to 2,342 between February 2008 to February 2009 - an increase from 2.9% to 6.2%.

Sedgefield, Easington and Sunderland were also high in list of areas hardest-hit for unemployment.

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My Council Tax is now £1800 for a band E.

So, you have a rich person's house. If the cost is a problem, either share or trade down.

To earn that money I would have to earn 4k taking into account the cost of transport to get to work, Income Tax, etc.

The tax is imposed, but the transport is your choice. Call it 3k. But in either case, it's dwarfed by the rent you get to pay if you're not so rich as to afford a Band E.

With the average salary in the UK of 25k, how on earth can this continue as that is roughly 17% in real terms of someones earnings.

Twaddle. Noone forces you to live alone in a house that's a long way above average.

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So, you have a rich person's house. If the cost is a problem, either share or trade down.

The tax is imposed, but the transport is your choice. Call it 3k. But in either case, it's dwarfed by the rent you get to pay if you're not so rich as to afford a Band E.

Twaddle. Noone forces you to live alone in a house that's a long way above average.

Hmm where do I start.

My point is many people cannot afford it. Transport to work is not a choice, we dont all work for the Government on flexitime with four days a week spent at home.

As it happens I can afford it, and unlike many I paid it with my earnings rather than using credit. However not many people have that luxury and have used credit, however that credit line is now gone. It is clear that there will be some serious problems in a couple of years time as people simply cannot pay any more.

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heres a comparison of what we pay in the small industrial shithole where I live compared to one of the wealthiest areas of the uk, hard to work out what we get for our money?

you are kidding, right?

Someone in Chelsea pays 500£ less than me for the same property band, and I live in Fu.cking Gateshead!!!!

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Also worth noting that, at the low income (less than £10k) bracket, council tax is huge, and the 25% off for being on a low income doesn't help much at all.

This is at band A, too. Try being a cleaner or a shop worker dealing with these rises, not fun.

The cheaper rates in Kensington may simply reflect the fact that there is bugger all in the way of band A B or C housing there... so average, the tax take per house is probably similar.

In addition, some councils are worse than others, they're effectively private companies with a complete monopoly on the provision of local services.

I can't believe the 12.5% rise in 2002-2003, that is absolutely f**king sickening.

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So, you have a rich person's house. If the cost is a problem, either share or trade down.

Band E is not a mansion - it is better than "average", but it is not a palace. If you're trying to bring up a family in reasonable circumstances, then it is where I'd expect a hard working person to be. And to illustrate the point, lets trade down to a very average D or C - in that Sedgefield example, the owner of a C has to find about £3K of gross salary to pay the bill. It's still broken. A person is a distinctly below average A still has to find £1500 gross to pay the bills.

On transport costs - they aren't a choice in many cases. You want him to move closer to work? Well that'll be something like ten grand in stamp duty and transaction costs. Unless he lives above the shop, then he'll still have to get there. I ride a bike to work, and it costs me more than £200 a year - tyres, chains, new kit from the inevitable crash that happens in London with alarming regularity.

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you are kidding, right?

Someone in Chelsea pays 500£ less than me for the same property band, and I live in Fu.cking Gateshead!!!!

I am just guessing here.

But could it be the case that the Bankers and people attached to financial services might live in Kensington and Chelsea rather than Sedgefield ?

As Brown has constantly said to much applause from the working classes "Those who can pay, should pay" I am getting the feeling that the working classes are the ones in his mind that can pay and should pay.

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TONY'S PEOPLE

Notes

Five-part series documenting life for a cross-section of people in Prime Minister Tony Blair's constituency of Sedgefield in Durham. GB. RDF production. Channel 4 tx 1999/09/23-1999/10/21 (Thu)

not sure how many people saw this or even remember it - THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER!!......yeah right!!

tonys people!!

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And whats most annoying £1 in every £4 is to pay the Parasites pensions.So people without pensions are paying for these jobsworths pensions And at every turn they do every thing to be obstructive. When have you ever come across anyone from the council being helpful, bunch of c@nts !

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It might also be instructive to compare the number of diversity outreach officers (and the like) between the two councils.

A long time ago I lived in K&C - they are a very slick money making machine. Parking permit = £LARGE. Not paying for a permit results in a £LARGE fine. In contrast to the usual council parking permit inefficiency, they were very sorted in the early 90s. They had direct debit before the likes of Islington had ever heard of it.

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My Council Tax is now £1800 for a band E.

To earn that money I would have to earn 4k taking into account the cost of transport to get to work, Income Tax, etc.

With the average salary in the UK of 25k, how on earth can this continue as that is roughly 17% in real terms of someones earnings.

Look at the % increases in the year following the elections. Quite a jump. Some councils will also need to recover some of the money they deposited in Icelandic banks. I think we are fast approaching the point where it doesn't pay to work for some people.

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heres a comparison of what we pay in the small industrial shithole where I live compared to one of the wealthiest areas of the uk, hard to work out what we get for our money?

Aren't you just paying more to support the army of non-jobbers employed by the councils?

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So, you have a rich person's house. If the cost is a problem, either share or trade down.

The tax is imposed, but the transport is your choice. Call it 3k. But in either case, it's dwarfed by the rent you get to pay if you're not so rich as to afford a Band E.

Twaddle. Noone forces you to live alone in a house that's a long way above average.

It makes no sense to tax someone bases on the house they live in. How does someone living alone in a five bedroom house use more services than someone living in a two bedroom house? Preferably there would be no tax, but if there must be then Maggie had the right idea. Everyone pays their poll tax.

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It makes no sense to tax someone bases on the house they live in. How does someone living alone in a five bedroom house use more services than someone living in a two bedroom house? Preferably there would be no tax, but if there must be then Maggie had the right idea. Everyone pays their poll tax.

Poll tax is the fairest method, as the person who uses the service pays. Council Tax is based on helping those that cannot afford to pay, by taxing those that can. However thats the theory, but in practise we can see the difference in Kensington and Chealsea as this is the richest borough in the nation.

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We all know how popular that was though.

My view is that system for choosing these council officials should involve more choice. The moment you make this more competitive, the more the costs will fall, at the moment we have this bloated top order which like someone else mentioned does everything in it's power to prevent change

Why can't local elections get more publicity and the proposed costs mentioned as part of the manifesto rather than just passed to us as a matter of course

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This thread and the OAPs are starving thread are both good examples of why socialism doesn't work and never will. If you younger HPCers think you have it hard now you haven't seen anything yet. You are going to squeal like pigs in the future.

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And whats most annoying £1 in every £4 is to pay the Parasites pensions.So people without pensions are paying for these jobsworths pensions And at every turn they do every thing to be obstructive. When have you ever come across anyone from the council being helpful, bunch of c@nts !

But in the la la land of local goverment workers these schemes are funded.They think it is mathematically possible to pay 6% contributions(matched by employer) and have a final salary sheme based on your highest pay to date(on retirement)that will last decades. Fine I suppose when investment returns were going at 10% pa. but the ponzi has collapsed,the FT100 is still way off its 1999 high.The schemes used to boast their brilliance at having invested in Banks and pharmaceuticals in the FT 100(I used to see the propaganda from the local government pension trustees).Fortunately not everybody can exit now,but wthe true scale of this fraud is yet to come out. It is criminal what is going on.

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