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In an appallingly one-sided, spin-laden bulletin the BBC is currently headlining the Northern Rock's apparently triumphant "return" to lending. The scripts for these bulletins might just as well have been written by Northern Rock/HM treasury PR department, and indeed I suspect most of their content was!

The problem here is the often repeated one: that the notion of getting the housing market "moving again" means, in BBC-speak, and the language of nearly everyone else, a return to ludicrous prices. There is a complete confusion between two distinct and important things - one is the promotion of the housing market returning to "health" by increasing turnover and the availability of loans for AFFORDABLE housing. The other, much more pernicious, is the presiding cliche that housing market "health" means, by default, a RISE in prices back to what they were, as though that rise is in itself an answer to the credit crunch, debt overload or whatever you wish to call it.

Of course the opposite is the case.

Moreover, many current customers of Northern Rock have had their mortgage payments increased despite the current base rate, due to expired introductory rates, yet those entering the market are being given ridiculously cheap deals, provided they qualify for them, and the next obscene issue, which the BBC barely addressed, is the enormous mismatch between those on "old" mortgages and those on "new" mortgages.

The problem here is that these kinds of optimistic, desperate, "return to normal" bulletins are absolutely shot through with assumptions, cliches and banalities hiding the detail which is absolutely vital in understanding what is going on here.

There is quite clearly some kind of instruction to the media by the government to hold back on pessimissm and emphasise the positive, no matter how inaccurate. Even that would be understandable and acceptable if these headlines were not hiding a truth that is STILL largely ignored by the media and the electorate. We simply cannot afford to return to the same parameters as before. It really needs to sink into the general public that housing costs have been, and largely still are, completely out of kilter with disposable income and the ability to pay, and therefore sales of property can only return to normal if everyone stops assuming we are back to the same old regime which caused its demise in the first place - that of constantly rising costs.

We desperately need to educate the masses on this point. The BBC is, through its property porn and obsequious bulletins, constantly promoting property industry and government spin that alludes to housing as only being useful if it is perpetually inflating in price.. THE OPPOSITE is true: Property really has to stop being associated with ANY investment opportunity, and finally seen for what it is, shelter.

VP

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In an appallingly one-sided, spin-laden bulletin the BBC is currently headlining the Northern Rock's "return" to lending. The script for these bulletins might just as well have been written by Northern Rock/HM treasury PR department, and indeed I suspect most of their content was!

The problem here is the often repeated one: that the notion of getting the housing market "moving again" means, in BBC-speak, and the language of nearly everyone else, a return to ludicrous prices. There is a complete confusion between two distinct and important things - one is the promotion of the housing market returning to "health" by increasing turnover and the availability of loans for AFFORDABLE housing. The other, much more pernicious, is the presiding cliche that housing market "health" means, by default, a RISE in prices back to what they were, as though that rise is in itself an answer to the credit crunch, debt overload or whatever you wish to call it.

Of course the opposite is the case.

Moreover, many current customers of Northern Rock have had their mortgage payments increased despite the current base rate, due to expired introductory rates, yet those entering the market are being given ridiculously cheap deals, provided they qualify for them, and the next obscene issue, which the BBC barely addressed, is the enormous mismatch between those on "old" mortgages and those on "new" mortgages.

The problem here is that these kinds of optimistic, desperate, "return to normal" bulletins are absolutely shot through with assumptions, cliches and banalities hiding the detail which is absolutely vital in understanding what is going on here.

There is quite clearly some kind of instruction to the media by the government to hold back on pessimissm and emphasise the postive. Even that would be understandable and acceptable if these headlines were not hiding a truth that is STILL largely ignored by the media and the electorate. We simply cannot afford to return to the same parameters as before. It really needs to sink in to the general public that housing costs have been, and largely still are, completely out of kilter with disposable income and the ability to pay, and therefore sales of property can only return to normal if everyone stops assuming we are back to the same old regime which caused its demise in the first place - that of constantly rising costs.

We desperately need to educate the masses on this point. The BBC is, through its property porn and obsequious bulletins, constantly promoting property industry and government spin that alludes to housing as only being useful if it is perpetually inflating in price.. THE OPPOSITE is true: Property really has to stop being associated with ANY investment opportunity, and finally seen for what it is, shelter.

VP

I saw that quite quite blatant. Especially about "buying in perceived falling market" What ********. If this isn't a falling market what is? Also loads of guff about first time buyers. Well I'll tell you what I'm a first time buyer. I'm 35 years old and through a combination of extreme prudence and the unfortunate passing of my father I could buy two ******ing houses. I'm 35 years old and not on the "ladder" because no one could give a ****** as salary averages passed 3 then 4 then 5 then 6 then 7 ......... The Government spouted the line that it was O.K because I could go IO or get a longer term and pay 55% of my take home pay for the pleasure of buying an estate home that had increased 130% in price and probably declined 20% in relative quality. After all I'd be a billionaire when I retired because house prices only ever go up. Furthermore I could buy one house and then use the equity in this house to secure finance on another house thereby ensuring that he ladder was pulled up behind me ho! ho! indeed.

Well I tell you what Gordon Brown and the BBC. ****** you and the horse you rode in on.

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I saw that quite quite blatant. Especially about "buying in perceived falling market" What ********. If this isn't a falling market what is? Also loads of guff about first time buyers. Well I'll tell you what I'm a first time buyer. I'm 35 years old and through a combination of extreme prudence and the unfortunate passing of my father I could buy two ******ing houses. I'm 35 years old and not on the "ladder" because no one could give a ****** as salary averages passed 3 then 4 then 5 then 6 then 7 ......... The Government spouted the line that it was O.K because I could go IO or get a longer term and pay 55% of my take home pay for the pleasure of buying an estate home that had increased 130% in price and probably declined 20% in relative quality. After all I'd be a billionaire when I retired because house prices only ever go up. Furthermore I could buy one house and then use the equity in this house to secure finance on another house thereby ensuring that he ladder was pulled up behind me ho! ho! indeed.

Well I tell you what Gordon Brown and the BBC. ****** you and the horse you rode in on.

Well put

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Another great post VP.

The BBC (news dept) are frankly a disgrace.

With all that is going on and is unfolding, caution should be the order of the day.

Lots of mixed messages at the moment from the government and its agents. They are all over the place, and in attempting to save face are damning many who will naively believe them (and who see the BBC as a worthy and honest source of information) to a perilous future.

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Another great post VP.

The BBC (news dept) are a frankly a disgrace.

With all that is going on and is unfolding, caution should be the order of the day.

Lots of mixed messages at the moment from the government and its agents. They are all over the place and in attempting to save face are damning many who will naively believe them (and see the BBC as a worthy and honest source of information) to a perilous future.

They will not let their ponzi scheme collapse - they have to keep it going at all costs! :angry: I can't believe that when I was younger I actually believed that the Beeb was the most impartial and best broadcaster in the world. This is drilled into millions of Britons when they were growing up. It is only after I started to question things that I realised that it was just a state controlled government run propaganda unit which shames a so called modern western democracy. Yet Brits still have the cheek to criticise other countries TV channels! I have spent a lot of time in Russia and it pains me to say that the Beeb is really no different from the state run Russian channels!!!

Wake up people of Britain you are being brainwashed!!!

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The avatar is meant to disturb - the guy is a stalinist nut job! :ph34r:

I'm sure some loyal subject could knock up a statue of that on his behalf. Come on, all great leaders get a statue don't they? Edit: at the very least, that needs to make children cry at Tussords.

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In the words of michael Winner ,calm down its only an advert.

There is no stopping the crash in the housing market now.

but I'm an over-excitable hpc junkie who dislikes the majority for being a bunch of over-financially-extended tw*ts.

what am I to do but throw a cabbage at the tele?

(good point tho...)

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In an appallingly one-sided, spin-laden bulletin the BBC ....................

There is quite clearly some kind of instruction to the media by the government .........................................

We desperately need to educate the masses on this point. .....................................................

In the highly unlikely situation that anyone still believes the BBC is impartial I recommend this book. Written by a long term insider turned whistle blower.

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I'd like to make clear that I have never considered that the BBC is particularly biased against one PARTY or another, it is merely sycophantic to whoever is in power and more so since the Kelly affair, after which the BBC threw in the towel and quite unjustly got rid of one highly talented journalist, a director general and several other key staff for no other reason than a capitulation to an entire fraudulent enquiry which whitewashed a very important issue of national significance.

The BBC itself must bear the responsibility for capitulating in such a pathetic manner and since then, and especially in the light of the financial meltdown, I simply do not believe a single word it says about banks, building societies, economists or financial "experts". Indeed the BBC has made a career out of inviting ALL of the people on to its news and current affairs programmes who are, by definition, the very same people who CAUSED the exact conditions which resulted in the current meltdown.

If at least the BBC would have sought other less establishment views, the story might have been different. But I want to emphasise that if the Tories were in power now, I have no doubt that the BBC would also be broadcasting government-friendly spin. To suppose this is a party-political issue is to avoid a more important point: The BBC is scared witless and virtually blackmailed into broadcasting establishment information. For that reason it has utterly failed in its remit for a long time, and is no longer the voice of independent or critical thinking. That is not to say that other broadcasters are not the same, they are. But it is reasonable to expect a subscription broadcaster with the BBC's history to have at least some residue left. Sadly that is not the case.

VP

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I'd like to make clear that I have never considered that the BBC is particularly biased against one PARTY or another, it is merely sycophantic to whoever is in power and more so since the Kelly affair, after which the BBC threw in the towel and quite unjustly got rid of one highly talented journalist, a director general and several other key staff for no other reason than a capitulation to an entire fraudulent enquiry which whitewashed a very important issue of national significance.
If at least the BBC would have sought other less establishment views, the story might have been different. But I want to emphasise that if the Tories were in power now, I have no doubt that the BBC would also be broadcasting government-friendly spin. To suppose this is a party-political issue is to avoid a more important point: The BBC is scared witless and virtually blackmailed into broadcasting establishment information. For that reason it has utterly failed in its remit for a long time, and is no longer the voice of independent or critical thinking. That is not to say that other broadcasters are not the same, they are. But it is reasonable to expect a subscription broadcaster with the BBC's history to have at least some residue left. Sadly that is not the case.

VP

I was one of the BBC's biggest supporters until a few years back. Around the time of Dr. Kelly's death as it happens; I agree that was the turning point. I can see daily examples of Labour bias in the mainstream BBC reporting - the 9 o clock news is cringeworthy to watch. But thankfully, Newsnight and This Week appear untainted.

Was it only me that spotted tonight's back to back announcements:

Brown: "We must avoid protectionism at all costs"

Smith: "We want to limit the number of skilled migrants who can enter the country to work"

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I'd like to know their justification for removing the "downturn" graphic. We are still in a recession but a short time after it became "official" they withdrew it, which is a bizarre thing to do. Apparently for political/propaganda reasons i.e. not wanting to scare the viewer with the truth.

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Nothing changes.

Last year the Breakfast "News" presenters were urging viewers to buy the "Million Pound House" lottery tickets, with incisive journalistic analysis including "what a great prize!" from Sian.

Haven't seen today's offering but I assume they are telling viewers that it's a great time to buy a house. And they can't show an appeal for victims in Gaza because of fears of bias. Pathetic.

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when I heard this item on Today this morning about 'boosting' (i.e. not just keeping it ticking over) I felt I had entered a parallel world and slipped back in time by a couple of years. Is it for real. This government has made so many u-turns this year in their frantic attempts to be seen to be doing the right thing - I despair :o

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I'd like to make clear that I have never considered that the BBC is particularly biased against one PARTY or another, it is merely sycophantic to whoever is in power

VP

Its really not. Its staffed full of left wingers. Your only right about not being particularly Labour, if anything they are to the left of labour. The Tories where in during the 80's and early 90's. It was extremely anti Tory then too.

I really do recommend this book. Once you have seen it from view of a former Today reporter you will not think the BBC is balanced again.

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