Guest mattsta1964 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Amen to that brother. Orwell was only out a few years and these f*ckers have used his written word as a how-to book on undermining democratic values. Pigs at the high table indeed. I think I'm going to design a guillotine in my 3D CAD system. Should be easy with my engineering and carpentry skills, I can see an expanding market on the horizon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBingo Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 But hang on a sec, I thought that this second home allowance was to pay for the interest only.Even assuming that it's an IO mortgage at 7% that's still only £21,000. In reality it should be a lot less than this. Why the ****** is she claiming the full amount to start with? I'm good mates with a back bench Tory MP. I remember a few years back asking him why not take the full allowance on his main home (in the constituency, his London place was a tiny studio flat). He explain pretty much what you just said. He only took the amount that actually covered the mortgage. Which meant he claimed around about half. I asked wasn't it common place just to take the full amount, and he said some do, but its not decent and sooner or later it will come back to bite them. I think we need to stop making bone headed statements, 'like all politicians have their nose in the trough' which I have seen several on here make. Because its idiotic, and about as useful as saying something like 'all arabs are terrorists' or 'everyone from Liverpool is a petty criminal'. What we need to do is to acknowledge that there is good politicians from all parties and their are bad politicians from all parties. We need to punish the bad, and congratulate the good who often leave good jobs in industry to public service. Unfortunately, we have the BBC, which because miss smith is a labour politician will give this issue minimum coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DissipatedYouthIsValuable Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I'm good mates with a back bench Tory MP. I remember a few years back asking him why not take the full allowance on his main home (in the constituency, his London place was a tiny studio flat). He explain pretty much what you just said. He only took the amount that actually covered the mortgage. Which meant he claimed around about half. I asked wasn't it common place just to take the full amount, and he said some do, but its not decent and sooner or later it will come back to bite them. I think we need to stop making bone headed statements, 'like all politicians have their nose in the trough' which I have seen several on here make. Because its idiotic, and about as useful as saying something like 'all arabs are terrorists' or 'everyone from Liverpool is a petty criminal'. What we need to do is to acknowledge that there is good politicians from all parties and their are bad politicians from all parties. We need to punish the bad, and congratulate the good who often leave good jobs in industry to public service. Unfortunately, we have the BBC, which because miss smith is a labour politician will give this issue minimum coverage. She's got to go. Then the rest of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattsta1964 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 She's got to go. Then the rest of them. Agreed They are all total scum. I don't trust any of them. We need a totally new political and economic system in the UK and we wont get it without destroying the existing one and rebuilding democracy from the bottom up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted February 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I'm good mates with a back bench Tory MP. I remember a few years back asking him why not take the full allowance on his main home (in the constituency, his London place was a tiny studio flat). He explain pretty much what you just said. He only took the amount that actually covered the mortgage. Which meant he claimed around about half. I asked wasn't it common place just to take the full amount, and he said some do, but its not decent and sooner or later it will come back to bite them. I think we need to stop making bone headed statements, 'like all politicians have their nose in the trough' which I have seen several on here make. Because its idiotic, and about as useful as saying something like 'all arabs are terrorists' or 'everyone from Liverpool is a petty criminal'. What we need to do is to acknowledge that there is good politicians from all parties and their are bad politicians from all parties. We need to punish the bad, and congratulate the good who often leave good jobs in industry to public service. Unfortunately, we have the BBC, which because miss smith is a labour politician will give this issue minimum coverage. So how many times have "good" MPs outed the "bad"? A good MP would be morally outraged by this and they all must know what's going on but they keep quite and the gravy train keeps rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBingo Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 She's got to go. Then the rest of them. I agree with Churchill, Democracy is the worse form of government. Except for all the others. And our type of democracy probably fits that bill too. I know we are now getting a scandal a week from Labour right now, but in fairness its still massively mild compared to the rest of Europe, let along the world. The Former socialist French President Chirac took regular back handers throughout is career. Indeed he bought several houses that each cost more than he had officially earned during his whole career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvenal Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I have a friend who used to stay with my wife and I three nights a week, when working in my area during term time. This lasted a couple of years. I would have been totally astonished if she have ever claimed that my house was her principal place of residence. Derision and incredulity should greet such a claim, when large sums of money are up for grabs. Disgrace and dismissal should follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DissipatedYouthIsValuable Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 AgreedThey are all total scum. I don't trust any of them. We need a totally new political and economic system in the UK and we wont get it without destroying the existing one and rebuilding democracy from the bottom up. Too time and energy consuming. There are other countries to live in with a less obtrusive state so the idiots in charge can't ****** up your basic life plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattsta1964 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Too time and energy consuming. There are other countries to live in with a less obtrusive state so the idiots in charge can't ****** up your basic life plans. Agree again Which is why I AM leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted February 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7877422.stm Rules clarifiedThe rules over designating a main residence were recently clarified after a complaint about Ms Smith's cabinet colleagues Ed Balls and Yvette Cooper. They were cleared in October of any wrong-doing over earmarking their constituency home in Yorkshire as their main residence rather than their London home. In his ruling on that case standards commissioner John Lyon said it was difficult to determine which home MPs should claim as their main home. The complainant had said the London home should be their main residence as that was where their children went to school but Mr Balls and Ms Cooper had suggested "among other things that where they ate Sunday lunch is significant". Mr Lyon concluded his report by saying that the "normal criteria" that the main home should be where an MP spends more nights than anywhere else should remain the "reasonable general test". These people are just screwing the taxpayer for all they are worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattsta1964 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7877422.stmThese people are just screwing the taxpayer for all they are worth. It's always been the same The parasites who run the UK suck just enough blood not to kill the host altogether. It's ALWAYS been the same. The system works as long as thay can create an illusion of prosperity, a 'feelgood' factor. The inexorable rise in property prices was the perfect vehicle for achieving this. People naively believed that tripling house prices made them richer, all denominated in a meaningless paper currency system while the real economy has been sucked dry. They are in big trouble now because the illusion is going to be shattered. I reckon they are $hitting themselves actually. All their CCTV cameras and surveillance data wont mean doodly squat once people wake up and smell the coffee. We've been monumentally screwed by these ****$uckers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted February 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 http://www.order-order.com/2009/02/anti-co...-calls-for.html The Centre for Open Politics has written to the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards making a formal complaint regarding Jacqui Smith's expense fiddles: see link for the text of the letter.Interesting dilemma: if there is any question of a police investigation of her "Obtaining by Deception" under the Theft Act, she would have to resign as Home Secretary. I wonder how they'll wriggle out of this one. The 2nd home allowance is for a second home? Ms Smith it appears does not own a second home....... Fraud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattsta1964 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 http://www.order-order.com/2009/02/anti-co...-calls-for.htmlI wonder how they'll wriggle out of this one. The 2nd home allowance is for a second home? Ms Smith it appears does not own a second home....... Fraud? Relax She'll get away with it. They always do The only way these parasites will ever atone for their crimes is when they are standing in front of a peoples' court and sentanced to death by guillotine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cht Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 The Inland Revenue set a tax investigator on me last year, because they thought I owed them £400. They probably thought I owed them more TBH, but it turned out they owed me £200 So if they are willing to turn me over the coals for a few hundred quid, surely they'll be throwing the book at the Smith family? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icantbelieveitsnotbutter Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Amazing that she's she's nothing wrong in claiming £22k per annum after tax (that's £40k to you or me) for renting a room that cost say £5k, and incurring £200k a year in policing cost. And amazing that you can have the case completely in reverse and its ok for the Balls/Cooper scam. Did I read she's claimed £700k in epenses since 2001, of which housing is only £115k or so? Has she had her second home, sorry, her sister's home, furnished, redecorated etc...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y-QUERK Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Our glorious leaders deserve luxury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomberbrown Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 One word. Thief! :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozziebear40 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Plus with that Inland Revenue 'Rent a Room' scheme I bet her sister is saving on tax as well. This eclipses all other scandals for me, I thought the Hamiltons were bad enough renting their own house from the kids trust fund but this is the HOME SECRETARY for gods sake, purveyor of Justice and what not. As has been said, someone fiddling expenses like this would be sacked and police called. All the banks, bonus culture and all that on todays news, I have given up on it all and couldn't give a stuff now, but I want ACTION on this MP's fiddle!!!! Nothing on any news programs that I have seen. It has got to be on Newsnight tonight?? I am a grumpy old man on loads of things (only 47 ) and drive my missus mad moaning. I have had enough now if nothing gets done about this. My last stand is hoping she gets sacked. Anything else and I am not listening, watching or reading any news ever again! I am not coming on here ever again wasting my time, moaning. May as well just bury our heads in the sand and let them get on with it. :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Wolf Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 And it goes on ................ How many more are at it? It cant be long before the people that can do something about this surely will. I hope people have the sense not to vote for the same in the future.... the same but different.... Mr Cameron We didnt need Scargill and his like then by we could do with ta few now to hoof this lot out. Brown should sack her..... working the system .... whilst people loose thier homes and jobs..... Oink Oink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockrobin Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 SLEAZE ALERT SLEAZE ALERT!!!! Home Secretary Jacqui Smith a member of the whiter than white Labour Party has been claiming living expenses while bunking with her sister!! http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/a...aydIVBSw7NO6Dow Who dares defend this Labour diseased SL*T ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Cage Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 There is an 8 page thread, it's a few pages back though http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...howtopic=104002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatdog Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Has not this item of news been apparent for a few days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockrobin Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Has not this item of news been apparent for a few days? How come when I did a topic search with Jacqui Smith as a key word, bugger all came up? I only heard about this on Radio four this morning! Poxing hell!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockrobin Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I think stories like this should be kept at the for front, these Labour scum should be exposed on a daily basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockrobin Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 got to keep this at the top of the forum topics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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