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Protests in the streets of France and Greece.

Icelanders force their Government out.

Britain part Nationalisation of some Banks.

The USA now a semi Socialist State with their bails outs of Financial Institutions.

The Eurozone will break down.

Global Savers will show their strength and terrify Governments and CBs.

Poor old Mark G will commit Hari Kari. :lol:

And for me life will be Financially secure and happy. ;)

BTW not forgetting those workers in the UK a little upset at that Oil Company bringing in EU workers to complete a winning contract.

Oh how wonderful life is and thank the Lord I am well out of it. :P

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Bring it on. Capitalism has clearly collapsed under the weight of its own contradictions. :)

Oh dear another dreamer, Brown`s Capitalism has collapsed not honest Capitalism, when a Saver with £50k in a Premier Saving`s Account is paid £3.45 net interest for a month, a rate of 0.010% when the Lender is charging 3.5% for mortgages and 9% for personal loans. Are they taking the p i s s? :(

Are we living in the real World? :rolleyes:

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Oh dear another dreamer, Brown`s Capitalism has collapsed not honest Capitalism, when a Saver with £50k in a Premier Saving`s Account is paid £3.45 net interest for a month, a rate of 0.010% when the Lender is charging 3.5% for mortgages and 9% for personal loans. Are they taking the p i s s? :(

Are we living in the real World? :rolleyes:

I don't know what you mean by honest Capitalism. There is Capitalism, and there is fraud. But there is also Socialism, and fraud. The pay-for-everything culture, and run-everything-as-a-business culture, that seems to have permeated our society will have to be forced back. It's not Capitalist, it's just those who don't like the Government from taking taxes and spending them on others.

If you have small Government you get a society like America. And I can't see any right-thinking person wanting that -- they have an appalling society. But the Capitalist dream -- owning your own home, having a nice, expensive car to taunt the neighbours, whizzing off on foreign holidays -- is grinding to a halt for very many people.

Everybody has bought into the dream of home ownership. That has pushed up prices, because as demand has risen, our strict planning laws mean we won't build more houses. And when we do, they are the executive types which are far too expensive for FTBs. But the sheeple didn't ask for a change, because they all wanted to buy into this dream.

So what happened? House prices began to climb. And climb. And climb. The banks got greedy. People are stupid, and borrowed against an inflated asset. And now all these potentially defaulting debts that these banking 'experts' lent will have to be picked up by the taxpayer, because if we let the banks go to the wall that will pull everyone else down.

So it comes full circle. Capitalism uses its greed to 'grow' the economy, and Socialism in the UK psyche rescues it again. Hopefully these last 30 years will be just a blip in British history. These left-wing genes are why we are in Europe, and why we will stay. Further, the European project will not collapse -- only someone with no knowledge of history would let that happen. It would be, quite frankly, stupid.

So in summary I'm quietly hopeful for the future.

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The pay-for-everything culture, and run-everything-as-a-business culture, that seems to have permeated our society will have to be forced back. It's not Capitalist,

It is capitalist. You have the freedom to engage services or not.

it's just those who don't like the Government from taking taxes and spending them on others.

Is it so unreasonable to resent other people taking money I have worked for and spending it as they see fit? Is the track record for governments spending money wisely particularly good?

If you have small Government you get a society like America. And I can't see any right-thinking person wanting that -- they have an appalling society.

America hasn't had a small government system since the new deal.

But the Capitalist dream -- owning your own home, having a nice, expensive car to taunt the neighbours, whizzing off on foreign holidays -- is grinding to a halt for very many people.

Rubbish. Capitalism allows people to allocate resources where they choose. Capitalism isn't selfishness, many successful capitalists have been great philanthropists. The capitalist dream (if there is one) is that everyone's life is improved by voluntary co-operation.

Everybody has bought into the dream of home ownership. That has pushed up prices, because as demand has risen, our strict planning laws mean we won't build more houses. And when we do, they are the executive types which are far too expensive for FTBs. But the sheeple didn't ask for a change, because they all wanted to buy into this dream.

So what happened? House prices began to climb. And climb. And climb. The banks got greedy. People are stupid, and borrowed against an inflated asset. And now all these potentially defaulting debts that these banking 'experts' lent will have to be picked up by the taxpayer, because if we let the banks go to the wall that will pull everyone else down.

Having choices means people make mistakes. However, with central planning you get the mistakes forced on you. The fact that the taxpayer is now picking up the tab is the opposite of capitalism. With a capitalist system the banks would have gone bankrupt, and investors who took the risk of lending said stupid banks their capital would have lost.

So it comes full circle. Capitalism uses its greed to 'grow' the economy, and Socialism in the UK psyche rescues it again. Hopefully these last 30 years will be just a blip in British history. These left-wing genes are why we are in Europe, and why we will stay.

Unbelievable! You should read a bit more about the utopian "winter of discontent", or the economic miracle of the communist block in the 80s. Or better still, those happy, happy North Koreans who now depend on food aid from their capitalist "enemies" to the south.

Further, the European project will not collapse -- only someone with no knowledge of history would let that happen. It would be, quite frankly, stupid.

Agreed, but in the form of a democratically elected body, and with constitutionally limited powers would be better.

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Bring it on. Capitalism has clearly collapsed under the weight of its own contradictions. :)

I don't think Brown's capitalism is real capitalism. Avoiding downturns by borrowing money on the back of houses and spending it on holidays is what capitalism is all about now is it. That just makes the inevitable downturn bigger and badder.

Anyone noticed the recent Hollywood films?

Terminator Judgement - Blair is the first villan

Transformers 2 - Britain enters as an old empire has-been who has 'never done anything worthwhile'.

I think some retard socialists have been hoodwinked by the yanks who are now sucking up to the French after they have bankrupted us - again!!

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Bring it on. Capitalism has clearly collapsed under the weight of its own contradictions. :)

Socialism has collapsed instead. To prove the opposite, more socialistic measures are and will be implemented in a futile attempt to prove its superiority over free market or true capitalism.

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