Converted Lurker Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) OK got a nice shiny HP notebook, (189 quid) arrived today, thought I'd just turn it on, put in the same code the kids have used for their x-box and wii etc (we have a secured network at home) and I'd be up and running. Phoned my mate Sashkin in an HP Indian call centre; top bloke mailed me instructions, followed them but it wants; ip addy, access this that and the other. Have done start> run> on my original laptop to get that black DOS box thingy up with a load of code but stuck, any help? TIA Before anyone states the obvious yes I know I'm a minge bag and should have got the one with xp pre loaded and yes I know the processor in the HP is slow...looks ace though... Edited January 23, 2009 by Converted Lurker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papitogrande Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 OK got a nice shiny HP notebook, (189 quid) arrived today, thought I'd just turn it on, put in the same code the kids have used for their x-box and wii etc (we have a secured network at home) and I'd be up and running. Phoned my mate Sashkin in an HP Indian call centre; top bloke mailed me instructions, followed them but it wants; ip addy, access this that and the other. Have done start> run> to get that black DOS box thingy up with a load of code but stuck, any help? TIA Before anyone states the obvious yes I know I'm a minge bag and should have got the one with xp pre loaded and yes I know the processor in the HP is slow...looks ace though... Have you switched it off and then back on again. Seems to be the advice I always get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Linux notebook? Black DOS prompt thingy? What's running on it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Have you switched it off and then back on again. Seems to be the advice I always get. yep, was asked if I'd switched the wireless switch on too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Linux notebook? Black DOS prompt thingy? What's running on it then? oops soory, did the prompt on this laptop to get the ip addy etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copydude Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 OK got a nice shiny HP notebook, (189 quid) arrived today, thought I'd just turn it on, put in the same code the kids have used for their x-box and wii etc (we have a secured network at home) and I'd be up and running. Phoned my mate Sashkin in an HP Indian call centre; top bloke mailed me instructions, followed them but it wants; ip addy, access this that and the other. Have done start> run> to get that black DOS box thingy up with a load of code but stuck, any help? TIA Before anyone states the obvious yes I know I'm a minge bag and should have got the one with xp pre loaded and yes I know the processor in the HP is slow...looks ace though... Maybe it will run Leopard. Try the 'Hackintosh' sites. They are ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y-QUERK Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 What are you trying to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 What are you trying to do? get on the web, it's loaded the suse linux op OK, just need to get on line. Wanted to stick with linux for a change TBH, and see if its OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vicmac64 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 My advice is get yourself a ram upgrade to 2mb and change the op system to win xp oem version which you can get for about £70 ram less than £20. I use the same notebook hp2133 and it is really good with XP. You can check out www.hp2133guide.com for further info regarding your machine - as I understand it there are issues around linux and the wireless side of things on this machine but I stand to be corrected - google it and you will be amazed what info is available on the almost perfect notebook. Whatever you do don't give up on the hp2133 - like I say it runs great with XP. Also Ubuntu has a good few issues - mine refused to accept the install - you can try it from a usb or cdrom live session without installing it on your hard drive - I certainly couldn't get it to work though i think it is possible but a difficult install. Like I say stick with it - its a well made product and a real steal right now at 189. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 My advice is get yourself a ram upgrade to 2mb and change the op system to win xp oem version which you can get for about £70 ram less than £20. I use the same notebook hp2133 and it is really good with XP. You can check out www.hp2133guide.com for further info regarding your machine - as I understand it there are issues around linux and the wireless side of things on this machine but I stand to be corrected - google it and you will be amazed what info is available on the almost perfect notebook.Whatever you do don't give up on the hp2133 - like I say it runs great with XP. Also Ubuntu has a good few issues - mine refused to accept the install - you can try it from a usb or cdrom live session without installing it on your hard drive - I certainly couldn't get it to work though i think it is possible but a difficult install. Like I say stick with it - its a well made product and a real steal right now at 189. I could duck out and give it to my bro' in law to put XP on, just wanted to resolve it myself and see if suse is OK. Nice bit of kit though Vic eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slurms mackenzie Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 OK got a nice shiny HP notebook, (189 quid) arrived today, thought I'd just turn it on, put in the same code the kids have used for their x-box and wii etc (we have a secured network at home) and I'd be up and running. Phoned my mate Sashkin in an HP Indian call centre; top bloke mailed me instructions, followed them but it wants; ip addy, access this that and the other. Have done start> run> on my original laptop to get that black DOS box thingy up with a load of code but stuck, any help? TIA Before anyone states the obvious yes I know I'm a minge bag and should have got the one with xp pre loaded and yes I know the processor in the HP is slow...looks ace though... Try this dude http://www.ipchicken.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Cage Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 type ipconfig in the black Dos BOX or ipconfig /help Copy the Subnet Mask, Default Gateway because they won't change. The IP just change the last 3 digits to a number not being used by the xbox or other computers, say between 20 and 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traktion Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 get on the web, it's loaded the suse linux op OK, just need to get on line. Wanted to stick with linux for a change TBH, and see if its OK I don't know enough about modern Linux desktop to help (I only use it on servers atm), but you might want to try posting on the SUSE forums/newsgroups. Linux distros usually have pretty passionate and loyal followings, so they will probably fall over one another to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vicmac64 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I could duck out and give it to my bro' in law to put XP on, just wanted to resolve it myself and see if suse is OK. Nice bit of kit though Vic eh? Its one of the best designed machines and it oozes quality, its going skiing with me and I will shoot photos wirelessly to it the screen res is incredible on a machine this size, the keyboard perfect its just atop qual piece of kit for travelling with. The only downsides is the slowish processor generates a lot of heat (mine came with vista loaded and 1 meg of ram £239 from dabs) but youtube videos were a non starter. So I tired linux but couldn't get ubuntu on (suse is behind the times and I think you will tire quickly with its foibles) ... So then I had no option but try xp and it is really really good with xp - its not fast but it is fast enough to do anything I will need to do - youtube plays great as long as there are no other programs running. I am using it right now - wow what a keyboard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpig Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I know Linux, what precisely are you trying to do and please don't say you are just trying to get on the internet. If you can ask exact questions, I can give you exact answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 type ipconfig in the black Dos BOX or ipconfig /help Copy the Subnet Mask, Default Gateway because they won't change. The IP just change the last 3 digits to a number not being used by the xbox or other computers, say between 20 and 50 ok, on the mail the lad from hp sent me I'm at stage 8, asking for network name and encryption key, once I've done that it should be disco and I'm on. any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellerkat Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) type ipconfig in the black Dos BOX or ipconfig /help Copy the Subnet Mask, Default Gateway because they won't change. The IP just change the last 3 digits to a number not being used by the xbox or other computers, say between 20 and 50 ifconfig in linux, surely. Don't give up! ED: Never felt better since I moved all household machines to Linux. (Ubuntu, because if you ask a silly question you'll get a sensible answer.) Edited January 23, 2009 by yellerKat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharm Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 OK got a nice shiny HP notebook, (189 quid) arrived today, thought I'd just turn it on, put in the same code the kids have used for their x-box and wii etc (we have a secured network at home) and I'd be up and running. Phoned my mate Sashkin in an HP Indian call centre; top bloke mailed me instructions, followed them but it wants; ip addy, access this that and the other. Have done start> run> on my original laptop to get that black DOS box thingy up with a load of code but stuck, any help? TIA Before anyone states the obvious yes I know I'm a minge bag and should have got the one with xp pre loaded and yes I know the processor in the HP is slow...looks ace though... ?? All modern linuxes do GUI network configuration. You should only need to hit the command shell when things go wrong or it doesn't work. Due to being a commited Debianite, I can't give much advice for Suse. There should be a system configuration menu entry somewhere on the GUI though. Have a hunt. (Is this site any use? http://www.hp2133guide.com/ ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 I know Linux, what precisely are you trying to do and please don't say you are just trying to get on the internet. If you can ask exact questions, I can give you exact answers. hi bud, did you see my last post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slurms mackenzie Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) ok, on the mail the lad from hp sent me I'm at stage 8, asking for network name and encryption key, once I've done that it should be disco and I'm on. any ideas? And you're sure he's from HP Just checking You're giving the guy access crackers can only dream about. Edited January 23, 2009 by slurms mackenzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzMosiz Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 OK got a nice shiny HP notebook, (189 quid) arrived today, thought I'd just turn it on, put in the same code the kids have used for their x-box and wii etc (we have a secured network at home) and I'd be up and running. Phoned my mate Sashkin in an HP Indian call centre; top bloke mailed me instructions, followed them but it wants; ip addy, access this that and the other. Have done start> run> on my original laptop to get that black DOS box thingy up with a load of code but stuck, any help? TIA Before anyone states the obvious yes I know I'm a minge bag and should have got the one with xp pre loaded and yes I know the processor in the HP is slow...looks ace though... (see bold) You need to click Start -> Run Type: cmd Type ipconfig /all This will give you the IP, subnet mask, DNS server, default gateway etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 (see bold)You need to click Start -> Run Type: cmd Type ipconfig /all This will give you the IP, subnet mask, DNS server, default gateway etc! yep but only need network name and encryption key now, is it on that black box stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpig Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I did but I'm not clear where you are in this process. Are you trying to work out the network name of the wireless router, i.e. the SSID? Have you found the program that is asking you to input the SSID and encrypted key (26 hexadecimal value) and can't find the values to put in it? hi bud, did you see my last post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpig Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Can you copy the results of ifconfig -a and post them here? yep but only need network name and encryption key now, is it on that black box stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip.mather Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 OK got a nice shiny HP notebook, (189 quid) arrived today, thought I'd just turn it on, put in the same code the kids have used for their x-box and wii etc (we have a secured network at home) and I'd be up and running. Phoned my mate Sashkin in an HP Indian call centre; top bloke mailed me instructions, followed them but it wants; ip addy, access this that and the other. Have done start> run> on my original laptop to get that black DOS box thingy up with a load of code but stuck, any help? TIA Before anyone states the obvious yes I know I'm a minge bag and should have got the one with xp pre loaded and yes I know the processor in the HP is slow...looks ace though... Right click on the desktop and look for a option called "Terminal", check the start bar equivalents, icon is usually just a black monitor. you'll end up looking at something like a DOS prompt (single coloured window with a big text box), bash "/sbin/ifconfig" in there and it'll spit all the details. "ifconfig" on it's own might work fine to be honest. If you've got a wired connection on the laptop as well that's detailed under the label "eth0", there's an "internal" network connection labeled "lo" but the wireless will be labeled "ath0", "wifi0" or "wlan0"? "ifconfig" is the same as Window's "ipconfig" in the DOS box and in fact produces nigh on identical output so once you find the terminal program (DOS box) you should be sorted. Try copying the terminal program onto the desktop when you find it as it's always useful to have handy. Cool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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