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After overthrowing democracy in Brazil in 1965, The United States set up torture & death squads

to help improve investment climates for U.S. businesses there & in many other Latin American

countries.

Setting up torture or death squads in Britain & the U.S is a serious option for our Governments to

consider, particularly since it's something they've done abroad.

Killing or torturing anybody calling for greater Social reform & improved conditions or anybody

protesting against Corporate bail outs makes great economic sense. Particularly if our goal as

a nation is to keep vast concentrations of wealth in the hands of the few, whilst the rest of us

starve.

It's not as if our governments would see this as the wrong thing to do, because they saw it as

the right thing to do - and they did it - in Iran, Guatemala, Brazil, Indonesia, Greece, Chile etc.

throughout the 60's, 70's & 80's.

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After overthrowing democracy in Brazil in 1965, The United States set up torture & death squads

to help improve investment climates for U.S. businesses there & in many other Latin American

countries.

Setting up torture or death squads in Britain & the U.S is a serious option for our Governments to

consider, particularly since it's something they've done abroad.

Killing or torturing anybody calling for greater Social reform & improved conditions or anybody

protesting against Corporate bail outs makes great economic sense. Particularly if our goal as

a nation is to keep vast concentrations of wealth in the hands of the few, whilst the rest of us

starve.

It's not as if our governments would see this as the wrong thing to do, because they saw it as

the right thing to do - and they did it - in Iran, Guatemala, Brazil, Indonesia, Greece, Chile etc.

throughout the 60's, 70's & 80's.

We'll see just how 'benign' the state is if there is serious social unrest

This website will will get taken down for starters!

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As we all know, Police Constabularies were set up by States to create a more invisible form of control over their populations. We only have to look at the history how modern police forces were established in Europe & the U.S.

Regional power holders recognized that the deployment of armies & militias made law enforcement transparently political. Police forces gave the impression of 'Rule of Law', rather than rule by rich elite.

Death Squads are great, because they provide even greater plausible denyability, due to their devolved, anonymous nature.

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After overthrowing democracy in Brazil in 1965, The United States set up torture & death squads

to help improve investment climates for U.S. businesses there & in many other Latin American

countries.

Setting up torture or death squads in Britain & the U.S is a serious option for our Governments to

consider, particularly since it's something they've done abroad.

Killing or torturing anybody calling for greater Social reform & improved conditions or anybody

protesting against Corporate bail outs makes great economic sense. Particularly if our goal as

a nation is to keep vast concentrations of wealth in the hands of the few, whilst the rest of us

starve.

It's not as if our governments would see this as the wrong thing to do, because they saw it as

the right thing to do - and they did it - in Iran, Guatemala, Brazil, Indonesia, Greece, Chile etc.

throughout the 60's, 70's & 80's.

How does that work if the skilled people just bugger off and leave to make a go of somewhere with a more liberal regime like zimbabwe??

Countries still need people with technical knowhow.....after all,it'd be useless for britain to try and invade mugabe's stomping ground if all the people that make the aircraft and repair the tanks have gone.

You can't exactly call the AA out halfway through a military sortie can you??

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How does that work if the skilled people just bugger off and leave to make a go of somewhere with a more liberal regime like zimbabwe??

Countries still need people with technical knowhow.....after all,it'd be useless for britain to try and invade mugabe's stomping ground if all the people that make the aircraft and repair the tanks have gone.

You can't exactly call the AA out halfway through a military sortie can you??

You just rescind Point 2 of article 12 of the UN INTERNATIONAL COVENANT ON CIVIL AND POLITICAL RIGHTS.

Which states "Everyone shall be free to leave any country, including his own."

Source.

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Countries still need people with technical knowhow.....after all,it'd be useless for britain to try and invade mugabe's stomping ground if all the people that make the aircraft and repair the tanks have gone.

You can't exactly call the AA out halfway through a military sortie can you??

Simple , the war will be a meat grinder infantry war akin to China+USSR+North Korea Vs UN forces in the 1950s.........the political elite will be officers who stay behind the front lines with machine guns, if the infantry retreat or refuse to rush the enemy machine guns they get cut down by their own machine guns,

Sort of like the intro to enemy at the gates.

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Simple , the war will be a meat grinder infantry war akin to China+USSR+North Korea Vs UN forces in the 1950s.........the political elite will be officers who stay behind the front lines with machine guns, if the infantry retreat or refuse to rush the enemy machine guns they get cut down by their own machine guns,

Sort of like the intro to enemy at the gates.

It's interesting to note that the UN Security Council Resolution 83, authorized on June 27th 1950 which condemned North Korea's “unprovoked aggression” was voted at 7-1-2 (with USSR absent). That is to say, 7 voted for, 1 against, 2 abstained & the USSR was boycotting the UN because they felt it was U.S. dominated & it refused to accept Russia as Communist.

(Russia could of course have vetoed the UN 'Police' action & stopped it, just as America has vetoed many UNSC resolutions condemning their aggression).

Apparently, Egypt abstained because they felt the word "unprovoked" was a clear distortion of the facts, since there had been many border clashes before:

"100,000 people were killed in South Korea under the US military occupation prior to what’s called the Korean War, and that there were many cross-border incidents, probably most of them instigated from the South"

- Noam Chomsky

http://www.kilometerzero.org/view/Noam_Chomsky

Professor Oliver Lee's published article: "South Korea Likely Provoked War with North" is also interesting:

"There had been a long pattern of South Korean incursion into North Korea. The official U.S. Army history of the American Military Advisory Group in Korea, referring to the more than 400 engagements that had taken place along the 38th parallel in the second half of 1949"

http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/issu...es/50_12-13.pdf

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As we all know, Police Constabularies were set up by States to create a more invisible form of control over their populations. We only have to look at the history how modern police forces were established in Europe & the U.S.

Regional power holders recognized that the deployment of armies & militias made law enforcement transparently political. Police forces gave the impression of 'Rule of Law', rather than rule by rich elite.

Death Squads are great, because they provide even greater plausible denyability, due to their devolved, anonymous nature.

Spring on ITV1 ... Don't miss the new series replacing The Bill. At 9pm 3 nights a week, watch Death Squad Billy, sponsored by Titt's Tiles.

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Spring on ITV1 ... Don't miss the new series replacing The Bill. At 9pm 3 nights a week, watch Death Squad Billy, sponsored by Titt's Tiles.

Yes, or perhaps that should be:

Death Squad Billy, sponsored by Ford & General Motors.

Since, Latin American expert & Sociologist M.Huggins cites - in her book 'Violence Workers' (where she interviewed 30+ Brazilian torture & death squad members) that Ford & General Motors financed OBAN in Sao Paulo (with help from the CIA).

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=dqGVnUQ...rs+death+squads

Also, according to Naomi Klein:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=b1uQNYb...rs+death+squads

OBAN as we all know was reputed to be responsible for some of the worst torture in Brazil (according to the 1973 Amnesty report).

OBAN also extended into the DOI/CODI death squads which (according to Huggins' interviewees) tortured, raped & threw women out of aircraft.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9sCO7jE...ll+kinds+of+doi

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Yes, or perhaps that should be:

Death Squad Billy, sponsored by Ford & General Motors.

Since, Latin American expert & Sociologist M.Huggins cites - in her book 'Violence Workers' (where she interviewed 30+ Brazilian torture & death squad members) that Ford & General Motors financed OBAN in Sao Paulo (with help from the CIA).

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=dqGVnUQ...rs+death+squads

Also, according to Naomi Klein:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=b1uQNYb...rs+death+squads

OBAN as we all know was reputed to be responsible for some of the worst torture in Brazil (according to the 1973 Amnesty report).

Interesting that this thread has lasted about 15 hours without being binned into the off-topic forum & is suddenly put there about 10 minutes after I mentioned the above.

I wonder if HPC is hoping to receive advertising from Ford?

There's no need to fret, I sourced my claims adequately.

Or is that why you fretted?

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  • 284 Brexit, House prices and Summer 2020

    1. 1. Including the effects Brexit, where do you think average UK house prices will be relative to now in June 2020?


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      • down 2.5%
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