Spikey1

Hold with a cut to follow next month. Financial news far to mixed to justify a cut and I think they will hold to see how the next month pans out.

Agreed.

Im sure they will find something wrong with that! You are not even digging for oil! You may as well go on the dole and be done with it.

So now councils are not needed

My resentment is that I get up and go to work while some layabouts sit back and do nothing. If you work you are providing something to society. Take everyone out of this world who did the same job that you do and the world would change completly. Whether you are a bin man, accountant, police officer, IT specialist, bank clerk, City trader! Every single job provides something otherwise it wouldnt exist! Lazy layabout scum who take money for nothing provide nothing. If everyone in UK decided to do that this country would of failed a long time ago!

Ok cant be arsed going throught point to point interting the quotes! Iraq... erm.... not really the point this post is about so thats one gone If you are saying that we can ignore the unemployed layabouts thats great. Just stop benefits altogether and just provide insurance to those with work incase of unforseen circumstances. (I know this is impossible but if you want to come out with crap so will I) The taxman takes money to support the UK. We all live here and if we dont like things that the money is spent on we can protest. Personally I accept that taxes are something we have to pay.. although I am pissed off with how our money is wasted! Erm so we cant grow our own food so the lazy sods can get a job! I said if you need money to survive because there are a few people or do live off the land and they dont. But if u are just a lazy sod living in a council house and thinking the world owes you a living then you should get off ur **** and get a job. Christ... yeah we agree on one thing but I think its aimed in different directions! Im off to bed cause based on ur feeble replies I feel my point has been made! Night

Ok the next time you go into a shop and there is nothign on the shelves because the entire workforce has gone to discover themselves! Christ this country is doomed if some of you are a representation of this countries mindset around work!

Totally agree with you. My comment was just to show what a stupid statement boom boom made that work is some form of opressent! (scuse spelling.. ) It was the sort of defence Keith Miller on Eastenders would come out with!

Hope you remember that statement when you are badly in need of a Doctor but they have all run off to accompish something.

If it was the only work I could get then yes. Life is not equal and just cause some people cant climb very high is doesnt mean they can sit back and watch the rest of us pass down the spoils to them.

I blame the strangers because they are the reason the money is being skimmed! We can not ignore unemployed because they will commit crime to survive if they have no money. As it stands its far too easy for idle sods to sit on their asses and be paid for it. I blame them because they should have more respect for their country and themselves and im fed up with getting my taxes used to support them I wasnt asking for approval just making a point that there is a difference between poor and idle scum Any extra overheads will be covered by the reduction in benefit claimants and the extra taxes those in employment will pay. Its not hard to see what could be done to help this country improve. There are volunteers wanted all over the place. I would quite happily find them jobs to do for free if it meant they were taught that money doesnt just appear every Thursday As long as the low expectations include picking up a giro then they should get to bloody work! Otherwise I wish anyone who is living off their land and happy in the "good life" all the very best. If you need money to survive then you should work to get it. If you cant work through disability or a next of kin relying on you to care for them then you need support. If you can work and just think you have a right to sit back and be supported then you need to learn a lesson!

Well they are on benefits so all their details are already on an IT system. Just a simple update to send a letter out saying if u dont do x you will not be paid once 2 years is up health and safety.... Jeeez best not make them work.. they might hurt themselves! Im staying home tomorrow...... If volunteers can clean canals, streets etc etc then im sure they damn well can! The point is that they will find jobs so it wont be the size of the NHS.. But there might be a few more helpers in the wards instead of just the kind souls that already volunteer!

err no how about you tell me how someone who is unemployed and leeching benefits can not get a job?

They are not poor they are unemployed and happy to stay there. I dont see why I should work to support them and their lazy idle ways! I have friends who work in factory packing pills. Its crap work and crap pay but they have self respect. They are poor not these idle benefit layabouts who are beneath poor! Regarding the YTS comments they were aimed at training 16 - 18 year olds to help improve skills whilst giving a basic salary. What I would love to see is a simple rule that if you are unemployed for 2 years (personally 6 months is long enough in my book!) then for 3 days of the week you have to provide your hands to help your community. Cleaning cycle paths, helping in charity shops, painting over graffiti.. so many things that need to be done and that isnt being done at the moment (so no jobs being stolen!) I know that the amount of layabouts that would suddenly get a job would be such an eye opener! If you can work you should work. If you are clever enough to get a good job then good on you. If you are not then tough luck welcome to the real world. Dont expect to be paid to do nothing cause you are not able to run a company!

NR is a complete **** up agreed but it has actually been lent not given away even though you and I know that due to this Governments stupidity getting it back will be close to impossible. They have assets to support the funds though so its not just chucking it away. Are you saying that benefits are repaid too? Because last time I checked they are just chucked out to lazy sods who give nothing to this country

Errr how the hell is a lazy benefit leech prevented from working? I worked in a supermarket when I had no other means of employment.. Nothing stopped me. My pride and commitment to my own self worth drove me to work. Why should I then support the lazy sods who find it easier to sit on their **** all day! The jobs are out there. I could find any one of them a job in 1 week. 100% Guaranteed.

Dont know what you mean by the fact that there are some people in the City and senior management who work.. So long as they are not taking benefits and pay taxes rather than draining resources I dont care if they sit on their bum doing nothing.. If thats what you are getting at.. Pensioners are entirely different and I hope you have the intelligence to recognise that if less 20yr olds lazy b*stards were taking benefits there would be more money in the economy to support pensioners who have worked during their working years!

I cant see that it would cost anymore to get those who wish to sit on their bums each day to clean the canals, countryside, streets then it would to pay them to sit on their bums and watch TV! Just one extra supervisor to ensure they are working which I am sure would cost far less than the amount of lazy b*stards who would go and work for a normal wage when they realise the game is up!

I dont. I think its a load of rubbish that is missing the simple fact that if you can work you should work. Just because they are thick doesnt mean I have to support them because they dont want to degrade themselves by working on a checkout or frying burgers. I call them lazy b*stards that should stop spending their days hanging around idle each and everyday and go and earn some of that money they are so quick to pick up from the post office without any difficulty!

OMG is it so damn difficult! If you are not able to get a job for 2 years!! 2 whole long years!!! Then you have to work for the money that the UK tax payer has been giving you for free!!!!!! No one should be unemployed even if they just work at McDondalds! What gives the lazy b*stards the right to be paid from my taxes to sit on their backsides smoking fags and watching Jeremy Kyle! Slavery my ass! Slavery is working day in day out and having your money robbed off you to support lazy b*stards that do nothing and live of the fruits of your labour! :angry:

No one is forcing them! They could get a f*cking job!!!! :angry:

At 11am? Lazy B*stards!

Something is def iffy at the moment! Yahoo site is showing data over 30 mins old and nothing at all for Aus ORD. Nikkei Net Interative is showing 1% drop as already mentioned and BBC is showing 2.1% drop and 48% drop depending on how it feels when you refresh... Does anyone have a paid for decent set up and can confirm whats going on ?! I think software gone well fubared or there has been a major movement and its all crashed under the strain!

Everything seems to have frozen on NIKKEI and AUS Stocks... Is something going on or is there a software **** up on the go.. Or do I just look at crap sites!?

BBC just reset too! Jeez I was up for an all Nighter for a sec then!