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Traktion

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  1. A closer union is not what the majority of people voted for. In fact they mostly voted for the opposite. My opinion is that it isn't needed and it reduces an already small influence people have on how they are governed. I'd rather the reverse - decentralised, more distributed governance.
  2. I didn't say anything about me. I said there was a tax/spend cycle which doesn't work well without being able to control who is being taxed and spent on.
  3. From a quick Google, NI spend is 20bn or so, foe perspective. 60m is a small amount relative to what is spent at the national level. This could be increased ofc, but to what end? Ever closer union? Edit: Moreover, there is another way of incentivising people not to migrate and to grow their economy - countries maintain migration policies and trade with one another.
  4. It isn't about blame. A full USoE would surely work well with FOM. The point is, we have FOM without USoE. This doesn't really work, for reasons I have outlined.
  5. A more accurate example would be calling a taxi, getting in the taxi, getting most of the way to the destination, then saying you changed your mind, then expecting to be dropped off home without paying. The taxi driver would, rightly, be livid. You can't just change your mind willy-nilly, just because you didn't think it through properly in the first place. People have accepted your word in good faith and have spent considerable effort making it so.
  6. It isn't a problem if more is paid in. How are you going to guarantee that though? For council pots, I suspect government money moves with the people. If the population increases in one place, it would be natural for the state money to flow with them over time. This is not the same for the EU. They don't control how much is taxed or what it is spent in a similar proportion to national governments.
  7. IIRC, there was about 6 months or so planning after the referrendum, followed by article 50 being triggered with a 2 year deadline. It was done this way to allow people to prepare on all sides of the border. Businesses, governments, agencies, etc. This is just how long it takes. You can't change your mind half way through and expect it all to be unwound. People have spent time and money on getting this far and just throwing that away because some folk have 'changed their minds' is ridiculous. If you want another vote in a few years, lobby for it. Attempting to derail this current one is not useful.
  8. Their parents paid in for them. It is a cycle. If you just blow in and out, there are no guarantees that this cycle will complete. The point is not that some tax is raised and some is spent. It is that it disrupts the cycle. The disruption can be managed by controlling migration, but without those controls you cannot.
  9. The UK has free healthcare. Many countries, including RoI do not. This is just one example.
  10. Not before they enter the country. It needs filling before it can be emptied.
  11. It doesn't matter. As citizens of the UK, we pay into a collective pot (give or take some devolution), then distribute it again. This is not the same for the EU.
  12. As I live in NI, I am well aware of devolution. There is a big difference between a region of the UK, where levels of prosperity and culture are similar, to that of the EU as a whole. I have no problem with movement of people, as long as the taxation/benefits system can cope with it. However, the UK has a relatively high tax and spend, which does not fit FOM. Drop the tax/benefits and my opposition drops too, but I don't see that happening any time soon, hence my opposition.
  13. Within the UK there are defined taxes and benefits. As a closed loop, these oppose one another, but there is a semblance of equilibrium. Moving from one EU country to another does not have this equilibrium. Of course, you can go the USoE route, but that is not the status quo.
  14. I suspect that has moved up the agenda already. Whether RoI would have the stomach, the funds and the appeal to NI is the question. Still, it is one way to solve it, longer term.
  15. I suspect honouring WTO commitments will be less of a concern to the UK, than the protecting the SM is to the EU. I also suspect the former will have less inclination to too. Either way, it is up to all sides to accommodate one another. It won't work any other way.
  16. It isn't a problem for the UK to move on. That is what no deal is, should the EU not want to negotiate a deal both parties can agree on. However, no deal means that the EU is threatening a hard border, not the UK. Only the RoI, working with the EU, can seek to change that. Preferably while being reasonable with the UK.
  17. Neither is the husband forced to live with the wife. Divorces are messy, but both parties have to move on and both need to take responsibility for their offspring.
  18. Who says there needs to be border checks? Who says they need to be across the NI border? The EU and the RoI cannot hold the UK to ransom and must also take steps. If the RoI fully believes in the GFA, there are actions they can take to negotiate them with the UK and the EU. It is not solely the UK's problem to resolve and if the EU wants to protect its market at the expense of the GFA, then that is something both sides of the border need to come together on.
  19. I would be hedging my bets. I would be favouring local business, over foreign business. I would be reducing investment in the short term, to plan for an unknown long term. This is common sense.
  20. I'll taken your wall of quotes and return with something rhetorical - as a business leader, would you be preparing for any sort of brexit over the last year? Would you be taking more actions as the deadline draws nearer? Of course you would.
  21. Rubbish! The starting point was the result to leave. The sticking point has been where to go next.
  22. To be frank, no... at least not within the period the previous decision is still being enacted. Businesses have planned for brexit, as have individuals, both inside the UK, the EU and beyond. Many businesses and organisations work to timetables of years, not days or months. They have made investments in good faith that the decision made will be enacted. If people have been indecisive and regret their previous decision, I'm afraid it is too late. They can decide to lobby to rejoin the EU again and maybe in years to come there will be sufficient momentum, but that is something for the future.
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