trekking

The referendum was a binary choice, stay in or leave. There was no prize for coming second!

The same here. The problem is that we don't have a proper Conservative party anymore, it's full of wet liberals, apart from a few on the back benches.

Well the remainers have plenty of parties to choose from. From those that promised a second referendum and those that promised they would honour the referendum held in 2016, but haven't. Leavers have fewer choices.

Maybe this is why: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1104153/brexit-news-latest-petition-cancel-article-50-revoke-no-deal-online-leave-march-2019-uk-eu

I have had three Phalls in my lifetime, I'm over 60. The last time I ordered one, it wasn't on the menu. The waiter came back after seeing the cook and asked me "are you sure that you can eat it?" The Phall is the equivalent of the Brexit result, most parliamentarians just can't stomach it. Steven.

At Oxford, Robbins was president of the Oxford Reform Club, a group promoting a federal European Union. Say no more. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Robbins

Maybe. We come to a junction, do we turn left or do we go right? I suspect that the politicians may have had enough of asking us what we want though. What is it they say about asking a question of a witness in the witness box? If you don't know the answer, don't ask the question. It didn't work out too well for them the last time they asked.

There will not be a peoples vote, stop dreaming. The current labour party couldn't find a bath, let alone turn a tap on.

My guess is that TM will get through any leadership ballot. The remainers in the party will not go for a brexiter.

Grovel would not be a well liked leader, not after sticking the knife in Boris.

As she referred to Geoffrey Boycott:

That reminds me of an interview a local news crew were doing covering a newly formed club for the local community in Birmingham. It was broadcast on TV, I think it was a news programme, something like Midlands Today. This was back in the early 1970s. Anyhow, the club was formed by a mixed bunch of white, black and Asians located in Small Heath Birmingham. The guy with the microphone doing the interview, asked the leader of this newly formed club: "so you welcome anyone to this club? The reply was "Of course we do, we even welcome the Irish" It is a true story. It stuck in my mind because I used to work in Small heath.

Nah, it's going to take a lot more than that. You can wave your flag as much as you want. I suspect that many will end up on Ebay after the 29th March next year.

I'm not in the least surprised. It's the sort of comment I would expect from a remainer or from someone on the left, fortunately not all remainers hold those sort of views. My sister and brother-in-law are both remainers and strong Corbyn supporters, they still can't get over the fact that they lost the referendum and I still get the occasional finger pointed towards me, as to say "It's your fault!". As for myself, I'm a middle of the road sort of guy, neither right nor left, but I did vote for Brexit.

What utter nonsense! It was clear to me what I voted for.

To be fair, most MPs don't know a lot about the details of the post they fulfil in government, but the civil servants underneath them should. It's a failure of the civil servants to keep him informed. They should know their job, they have been in post much longer than the MP.

I see that you finally get it. I don't want us to be a state of anything, either the USA or the EU.

As you missed it, this is what we voted on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_European_Communities_membership_referendum,_1975 But hidden from the public at the time of the referendum: "The question of sovereignty was discussed in an internal document of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO 30/1048) before the European Communities Act 1972, but was not available to the public until January 2002 under the Thirty-year rule. Among "Areas of policy" listed "in which parliamentary freedom to legislate will be affected by entry into the European Communities" were: Customs duties, Agriculture, Free movement of labour, services and capital, Transport, and Social Security for migrant workers. The document concluded (paragraph 26) that it was advisable to put the considerations of influence and power before those of formal sovereignty" Direct link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_European_Communities_membership_referendum,_1975#Thirty-year_rule

I did vote in 1974 and I voted yes at that time. I believe it was the correct choice given the information on that referendum. As you say, none of us have had the opportunity to vote on what we have now, until the referendum in 2016.

+1 Some still don't get it. None of us signed up to what the EU has become and some of us don't like where the project is going. I want out, even if I have to live on beans on toast for the rest of my life. It has f all to do with money.

Oh, I have: https://youtu.be/Q7uZPofdsOY?t=1m8s

Having watched a TV programme about his private jet, I came to the conclusion that Mr T quite likes a splash of gold.

I vote that you keep it there until we finally leave the EU, then take it out and celibate. However, I suspect that by the time this is done, it will be a vintage bottle of the stuff.

Agreed, we need Janus:

I would throw them a rope if I had one, unless it was a banker. In the latter case, I would probably just sit on the river bank and open my bag of popcorn.