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  1. 3 Years on, not sure things have panned out as expected. My post was highlighting the headline throughout the previous crash where speculation in the press predicted rises but the reality of market data ground lower. History did not repeat itself this time, we had about 7 months of the fastest crash in history and it was nipped in the bud. The world seems extremely weird, it feels like we are right back in the bubble without the cleansing or clearing of the previous bubble. Interesting times....
  2. I have the following simple thesis. AIM stocks are only just starting to climb out of the hole created in the wake of the financial crisis. The first stocks to recover were the big cap dividend paying safety play, the FTSE 500 has also enjoyed a trebling over the last few years. I believe the mid to large cap stocks are likely to stagnate at best of over the next few years as the fight taper talk, fiscal scuffles and for earning to catch up with valuations. The recent acceptance of AIM stocks into ISA gives people a vehicle to speculate in the these high risk stocks were all capital gains can be kept. I believe this bubble could be pretty quick one with perhaps a top as early as late 2015 but given the pace these stocks can move it could lead to some fantastic gains. I heavily use charts to pick stocks and there are more stocks i pick based on the charts than I have money to invest in atm. I know many of the AIM stock have management that are parasites and use the company to draw disproportionate salaries, but in the world we live in with central banks doing what they do and bubbles now becoming part of the economic cycle this is looking to me like a situation were a rising tide will lift all, reducing the risk. Of course there will be the 100 baggers but even the worst may enjoy periods of share price rises of 2-300%. Any views from fellow investors out there?
  3. Yes, it is very sad to say but even as a huge opposer of the housing market ponsi, if the UK market was a stock with the announcements we have had over the last few years and the data coming out of the market I would be going long. It wont be long before house are earning more than their owners again, what a sad economy we have......
  4. It was the S&P 500 that hit 666, can't remember what the DOW hit but it probably was 6666 ( I know it got below 7k) given the control they have over the markets now.
  5. Yep, this will be devastating for the UK if it plays out like it has in Germany! Their renewable program is bringing down the cost of energy during the period of most industrial activity. I have even heard of the grid paying companies to take free power to help stabilize the grid during periods of intense renewable production, an amazing opportunity for anyone who can capitalise on it. Everyone on this thread seem to be up in arms about a single politician (in this case) being paid an insignificant sum by some renewable lobbyist perhaps it might be worth focusing on the countless lobbyist for the businesses that want to keep their current hold on the energy market. http://cleantechnica.com/2012/03/23/german-solar-bringing-down-price-of-afternoon-electricity-big-time-more-charts-facts/
  6. Great chart, you should put it on the Chart thread in the pined section.
  7. If your only interest is to heat water I would always recommend solar thermal and as you suggest go for ground mount. If your primary goal is to reduce your electricity bill (most peoples hot water only cost £100-200) then PV is a solution that will do that and also heat water very effectively with the spare capacity. Everyone knocks solar PV for producing energy that can't be stored, this is a way of cheaply storing that energy.
  8. This is my point, if we are wrong about all this then 8 bolts and a little push and down they go :-)
  9. Price was just a guide to what a professorially installed system would cost. Our first system cost us £3850 which was the cost price with no profit, his previous system only lasted 2 years. It included a new thermal store which is a hefty part of that price tag. Solar thermal is an excellent technology if you can install it yourself, if you can keep it on the ground for ease of maintenance, it is far better than a PV imersion set up, the main thing is most people go for PV first. To save the maintenance issues with roof mounted solar thermal system the immersion controllers are a practical solution for the end user even if there are genuine arguments for the physics/poor use of high grade energy. We were at a new customers house yesterday and she had had a Solar thermal system for just over 10 years, it has been leaking for at least 4 of those years and has caused problem with rotting various bits of her house. In order to repair it scaffolding and most likely new solar thermal panels will be needed. There will be a cost to repairing the damage to the house also, it has probably put the payback of that system well into negative technology. If she constantly tops it up in the summer it still belts out hot water though!
  10. You can find local installers on the Immersun website, they have a huge network now, when we started installing them we were one of the first in the country, we had been looking for a viable option for years.
  11. We install panels up to 20% efficiency (panel not cell), we then use inverters with 98% efficiency. If you want Solar PV to support your electrical consumption the spare capacity to heat water is not that crazy when you have spoken to anyone who has installed Solar Thermal. Not heard of one lasting more than 10 years without leaking, the crunch point for many of the systems we have repaired replaced seems to be 2 years! We are accredited to install them but much prefer solar PV with the simple addition of an intelligent immersion controller. At £4k for a solar thermal system using spare capacity from your solar PV system is far from crazy, especially is you are burning oil or LPG.
  12. EMMA was the first of it's kind, far too expensive but now there are many competitors to it. Our preferred option is the Immersun, it is intelligent power management and will only use SPARE PV capacity. We are installing them for £495 + 5%VAT, 5 year payback by your calculations, can be less than 3 years if on OIL or LPG. http://www.immersun.co.uk/
  13. We have installed ground mount systems up to 10kWp domestically, the council has so far been very supportive of all the projects that we have done.
  14. Then use it to power your home in the evening :-)
  15. You are very likely to have a local installer within a few miles of where you live, you can search by post code on the official MCS database http://www.microgenerationcertification.org/consumers/installer-search
  16. Is every house suitable for solar PV? PV would only compliment other energy sources (looks like the current government is going for gas that can be ramped up very quickly to cover demand) and is far from our energy solution. From a purely selfish point of view PV has a lot to offer individuals in the right circumstances.
  17. Sounds like you are well placed to get the project going. I love the idea of the electric car becoming the home storage device, Nissan already has a car in Japan that you can power the house with should the grid go down. Charging the car in the day with PV and using some of the power at night is really appealing, only a matter of time.
  18. I have not used Renesola but there are one of the panels stocked by the UK's largest wholesaler and they claim to vet the products they sell, not heard anything negative about them. For a single string system we favor the Steca Grid 3600 http://www.steca.com/index.php?StecaGrid_3000_3600_en. It is German made is very efficient and well priced. If you are splitting the strings we are using the Power One atm due to performance and pricing. Two years ago SMA were the most regularly quoted inverted but they are pricey in the current environment but the build quality is great. These are all grid connect inverters and given you are self installing I suspect you are not going to connect to the grid (will require electrical qualifications and notification to the DNO) You could look at Nedap http://www.nedap.com/technology-that-matters/for-energy/ which allows off grid use and can also divert spare power to batteries for use at night. With the savings made by self install it may be worth looking at adding batteries. If you are not a qualified electrician you will need to work with one if you do go ahead.
  19. I agree the storage side of things is the big inhibitor to solar PV achieving 8 year payback without a FIT for many domestic situations. A local potato store I know of with a 366kWp system on the roof has consumed all power on site, there are some excellent applications in the commercial environment, and given we still have the FIT the payback can be nearer 5 years when you take into account no VAT and capital allowances. Typically a home will only use 30-40% of the energy generated by a 4kWp PV system if no effort is made, but install a smaller system and that figure increases. A 2kWp system could see 50-60% consumed on site with no effort. For our customers with a 4kWp system we are using an intelligent Immersion controller to allow people to intelligently divert all spare PV power to the hot water tank, it can divert as little as 50 watts and for 9 months of the year this can provide virtually all the hot water requirements. For someone off the Nat gas grid this can make a huge difference to Oil or LPG consumption. Also more and more devises are coming online that will allow a greater use of the power through intelligent power management systems that controls devises around the home making better use of the PV power generated.
  20. Good on you for looking at self install, remove the installation element and as you point out PV performance is being seriously under appreciated atm, it is almost as if our utility companies have seen the success in Germany and decided that they do not want to relinquish their profits without a fight. Like many things you get what you pay for in terms of build quality but the cells are largely the same and we are currently finding the performance of Chinese vs other panels is that they are performing equally as well. This may not last but if you stick with the better quality tier one Chinese panels such as Yingli or Trina for example then I see no reason why you would not get good long life performance.
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