MarkD

It’s the logical move for them I would have thought. No point in going down with the ship if there’s a lifeline.

All of the above, which is why I think the tories will squeak home. Once again it may well be a case of labour handing victory to the tories. Going to be close I reckon. Sir Kier was praising Thatcher over the weekend. Thinly veiled attempt to win over tory voters obviously.

Poor old Sir Kier, getting it in the neck at home and work's even worse! Got to feel sorry for him 😄

I was thinking the same. All it needs is a local yelling out ‘Alan’s snack bar’ and off we go again, candles out, ‘lessons learnt’, etc, etc.

Tents in the dessert, that’s the way to go!

I wouldn’t be so sure. If the loyal Tory voters see their actions are opening the door to Sir Kier and his merry men they may just get back on board. I think it’s going to be very very close, and don’t see Sir Kier holding the keys to no.10.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/dec/03/back-into-caves-cop28-president-dismisses-phase-out-of-fossil-fuels

Seems they all came to Dubai to do oil deals! The president (who happens to be the CEO of ADNOC) just announced there is no evidence to support a reduction is fossil fuels! Gotta love the Arabs!

Tories unelectable, Labour unelectable, new party needed. So logically then defect to another party (reform maybe?) or form a new one. Either way it does seem the two party system has had its day.

Bingo! You just disected my comment😄

If you vote reform who are you actually voting for? If they see Labour getting ahead will they throw the towel in and urge their supporters to vote conservative?

I wonder what he said to Sunak? Make a good caption competition!

Green, if only to show them a bit of support. No one else worth voting for as far as I can see. No way am I going to support labour or the conservatives.

My mates had a Beagle Basset. Have a look at the door, absolutely massive? Why? Part of the spec was the aircraft had to provide for full military uniform. Full military uniform of the time included a great big sword! Just how stupid can you be!!!

RD350? Hmm, it was never able to keep the front wheel on the road! GPZ, oh yes.

“Love the 80’s government ”. Not me mate. I trained in heavy engineering finishing in the early 80’s, then along came thatcher. Then after a year on the dole I managed to get a job in the civil service (mechanical & electrical engineering), guess what? along came thatcher! FFS! Could industry have been saved? I doubt it. The Germans and the Japanese were all pulling together, the brits were pulling apart. ‘It was all the fault of the management’, no ‘it was all the fault of the unions’. ‘ No it was all the fault of……….Thatcher!!!!! In aviation we base on 3 things, knowledge, skills, attitude (KSA). Brits had the knowledge and the skills, no question about that, attitude was the problem. The government of the time did invest in industry, they poured money into BL/Rover, all to no avail. Rover built good cars, but by that time few people had confidence in them. I once had a contractor in my office who had a rover SD1. He left it at the bottom the garden! Didn’t drive it cos he knew something would give resulting in a big bill! He saw an add saying we give £500 part ex any car. Long story, but it finished with the salesman saying to him - “I’m sorry sir, we all have our crosses to bear”! He was so pissed off. He said I was that close to getting rid of it!

In our village the cheap stuff is flying off the shelf, selling in a matter of days. Plenty of overpriced not shifting, but then high end reasonably priced is shifting as well. It seems buyers can be a little more discerning, whereas a couple of years ago highest bid wins.

What got me about this is that the judge told him he'd broken the law, and then awarded in his favour! Who said crime doesn't pay, he's pocket £540,000!

OK, but the brits weren't alone. The volkswagon beetle was superb and given a choice between practically anything or a beetle you'd go for the beetle every time! Ironically the bits dismissed it at the end of the second World War, not up to much, it went on to sell 52 million units and be the most successful car in the world. But then of course the Toyota corolla came along. Point being we had the ability to build good cars, and improve going forward. But as you say we didn't, and it ended in disaster. Piss poor management coupled with a workforce who preferred to spend their time huddled around a brazier at the factory gates handed car manufacturing to the Germans, and of course the Japanese. The cars you speak of weren't great by any stretch of the imagination, but surprisingly many are still around. The roads were full of datsuns in the 70's you'd be hard pressed to find one today though, christ did they rust!!!!

This would seem to suggest a hung parliament with the lib dems holding the balance (again). Might not be such a bad thing.

Tactical voting? I think there's going to be a lot of that. Problem is it may lead to a labour government! At the moment I'm thinking any half descent candidate (neither Conservative or labour), or just give it a miss. As Billy Conelly said "voting for them only encourages them!"

I read a couple of days ago that Travis Perkins is set to lay staff off. So, builders merchants supplying even fewer materials in the middle of a housing crisis...............Make of that what you will.

I disagree. Those who allowed them to do it should be in prison. Truth is the main offenders will probably get knighthoods!

Just stop and think about what you’re saying. You’d put a little cross in the box marked Labour candidate? Now cast your eyes around the newly formed government. What a shit show. Think it can’t get any worse? I beg to differ.

Beggers belief doesn't it. All of a sudden the councils are business tycoons!!!!! Just empty the fakin bins, not that difficult!