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  1. How does the comparison look when you chop out the fact that there was an obvious surge of post-war growth (the country had to be rebuilt) in the 1945-1955 decade? From my recollection, UK GDP growth was tailing off in the early 70s, but picked up soon after we joined the EEC. Note that the rate of growth is greater from around 1979 until 2004 than it was during the 1955-1978 period. John Redwood is a raging Eurosceptic and I take everything he says with a massive pinch of salt.
  2. The world doesn't have internal consistency (are you an economist)? There is no conspiracy, simply self-interest. In the case of JRM, I'm not suggesting that he masterminded Brexit for his own devious ends. Just that he will campaign for the kind of Brexit that suits him best, financially and from an ideological view. Others - say the head of an investment bank - have their own preferred version of what should happen, based on what would suit them best. But both of them are part of the "financial elite" (rolled up trouser leg no longer mandatory). When you look at most of the business support for hard Brexit (what little there is of it), much of it comes from people who are already manufacturing outside the EU (like Dyson) or those who have no product to export but think their input costs will be lower (like Tim Martin).
  3. Yep. That's really funny - you talk about the "financial elite" as if there is a single group, kinda like S.P.E.C.T.R.E in the James Bond films. Perhaps there are competing factions within the "financial elite" and while some will lose from Brexit, others stand to gain. For example, I heard that the pin up boy of the hard Brexit faction - Jacob Rees-Mogg - is a big shareholder in a fund he used to run, a fund that invests in emerging markets and pays out in dollars. The weaker the pound, the more his dollar income is worth in relative terms. Something to think about when you are in the queue at the Job Centre
  4. Shell fishing fleet in Wales wants help with Brexit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-43031401?SThisFB "Wales' fishing industry risks being "left behind" in Brexit talks due to its unique needs, a report has warned. While the priority elsewhere in the UK is greater control over seas, the Welsh fleet needed easy access to EU markets, a think-tank said. Most Welsh boats specialise in shellfish, with 90% of their catch currently exported to the EU." Oooops!
  5. Well played, Vladimir. ?? Russian propaganda about Brexit had more impact on Twitter than the Leave campaign, new study claims http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5380767/Russian-propaganda-Brexit-won-Twitter-war.html "Russian propaganda adverts backing Brexit had four times more impact on Twitter than the official Leave campaigns claim. Kremlin-backed channels RT and Sputnik pumped out 260 anti EU stories which were shared so widely on Twitter they were seen up to 134 million times online. This dwarfs the number of posts from the Vote Leave and Leave.eu campaigns, which were seen up to 33 million and 11 million each respectively. Researchers said the findings show that the Kremlin 'won the Twitter war' and tried to interfere in Britain's politics."
  6. Some people actually have to plan ahead: British farmer moves fruit-growing to China over Brexit uncertainty https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/11/british-farmer-moves-fruit-growing-to-china-over-brexit-uncertainty?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other One of the biggest growers of berries in the UK is moving part of its business to China because it cannot guarantee it will find enough fruit pickers available to work. “We are already out of time,” he says, explaining that he can’t afford to wait for Theresa May to reveal her immigration policy as this year’s harvest was planned last year. f he can’t get the migrant workers, he will have to move more of his business overseas, or close down altogether, he warns. “I would feel very, very sad for the people here, after 30 years of building together. But I would quickly move our activities abroad, with those that wanted to come. We’re not stuck here, we live on planet earth.” And it would be so easy to export from China to Global Britain™, especially if JRM and his fanbois get to pull the tariffs down.
  7. Change was always possible. Because the problem was nothing to do with the EU. You are still giving out the old "protest vote" justification. A protest vote is all well and good, if you are clear what you are protesting about and you are targeting the issue or the person causing the problem. If the problem was immigration, Brexit is not a solution: Over 50% of immigration to the UK comes from outside the EU, and this will simply increase to ensure a constant supply of doctors, teachers, farm labourers, etc. Before freedom of movement, the UK issued temporary visas to workers from Russia and EE (during the "cold war"). If the problem was globalisation, Brexit not a solution: The preferred approach - Global Britain™ - means more cheap imports, with almost zero protection and continued favoured status for banks and finance. If the problem was inequality, Brexit is not a solution: Already the government is looking at workers rights with a gleam in their eye, beyond some hot air May talked (primarily to stroke her own ego), there has been no move to make things like zero hours contracts less attractive for employers, or to give employees representation on company boards (as in Germany). If the problem was the ruling class/elite, Brexit is not a solution: The leave vote was bankrolled by tax dodging billionaires, some from outside the UK and a few who are not even (and never have been British citizens). Power has been handed to people like Boris Johnson (Eton, Oxford) and Jacob Rees-Mogg (Eton, Oxford) who are both polished products of the exact same institutions as "call me Dave" Cameron. A protest vote that does not address the problems you are protesting against is not a protest vote, it's simply a tantrum.
  8. Check the source of those photos dear boy. None are from the Independent
  9. To be fair to him, there about 50% of photos of May are "unflattering"...
  10. Yep, when the Nissan and the Toyota factories close, a 48 hour week will seem like luxury to them: Brexit: Official document raises prospect of tampering with workers' rights to boost economy http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-worker-rights-impact-assessment-eu-withdrawal-leaked-theresa-may-a8201176.html
  11. “Be under no doubt, we can do deals with our trading partners and we can do them quickly.” David Davis "The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history." Liam Fox Your heroes always let you down in the end.
  12. Britain to tell the world ‘Brexit does not mean Brexit’ https://www.ft.com/content/c4a0e4c0-0cf9-11e8-839d-41ca06376bf2 "A “technical note” prepared by the British government calls on non-EU nations to treat the UK during its post-Brexit transition period after March 2019 as if it was still covered by the more than 700 treaties Brussels has struck with third countries on everything from fishing rights to data sharing. “To coin a phrase, they are going to tell the world that Brexit does not mean Brexit,” said one EU official.
  13. The UK also has a points/skill based immigration system, which is applied to everyone outside the EU (so it would apply to African immigrants, like Mr Musk). What stopped Elon Musk starting SpaceX in the UK? And how will Brexit resolve this?
  14. Yeah, but the guy doing it is an African immigrant! We'll have none of that here thankyouverymuch.
  15. Are you playing catch up again? EU and Japan finalise ‘cars-for-cheese’ trade deal https://www.ft.com/content/b48e4f3a-dc0e-11e7-a039-c64b1c09b482 It it's been agreed by both sides and is now ready to be ratified by the EU member states. Unlike for example, our deal with the EU, or any UK deals with any other country! Some salient point from that article you would do well to pay attention to: "The agreement between Brussels and Tokyo, which took four years and 18 rounds of negotiations, will cut tariffs, introduce co-operation on standards and regulations, and open up public procurement markets." So two of the world's biggest and most experienced negotiating partners took over four years to agree the deal. How long do you think it's going to take an ex-GP and the handful of staff that are stupid enough to work for him?
  16. Yes, a nice FTA with the remaining 27 nations of the EU, where they export most of their UK production, which will have tariffs if we are outside the customs union... The people of Sunderland might have thought they have nothing to lose. But they were wrong... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/feb/08/ministers-condemned-for-leaving-city-in-chronic-state-of-uncertainty-over-brexit-politics-live Theresa May’s meeting with Japanese business leaders based in the UK has finished. They were there to talk about Brexit, and afterwards Koji Tsuruoka, the Japanese ambassador to the UK, implied that Japanese companies would leave the UK if Brexit went wrong. He said: "If there is no profitability of continuing operation in [the] UK, not Japanese only, no private company can continue operations. So it is as simple as that. And this is all high stakes that I think all of us need to keep in mind."
  17. Why must you always be so negative? Look at the positives... when you are struggling to cover the mortgage you can put some stickers on the windows and turn it into a micro cafe.
  18. That thread is hilarious! Once it gets started about Trump - the bad billionaire turned good (by his conscience ) - the tears of laughter were rolling down my face.
  19. https://fullfact.org/immigration/migration-and-welfare-benefits/ "In the first quarter of 2014, foreign born people of working age were more likely to report receiving tax credits (15%) than the UK born (11%), according to Migration Observatory analysis of the Labour Force Survey. Similar shares of EU born and non-EU born people reported receiving tax credits (14% and 15% respectively)." So immigrants in general are more likely to claim tax credits - hardly surprising as many will be doing low paid jobs. But they are not massively more likely than the average UK citizen to claim them.
  20. That's bull and you know it. It's due to some young people in Northamptonshire buying an iPad and going on a cheap holiday once. Also, I heard that avocados are really (and I mean REALLY) expensive.
  21. Surely the real p1sser is that a caretaker government in Germany outperforms a full one in the UK!
  22. WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! THIS IS NOT A FORECAST UK car production falls for first time since 2009 as Brexit fears hit sales Total production of 1.67m cars falls below forecast, fuelled by 10% drop in domestic buyers https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jan/31/uk-car-production-falls-first-time-since-2009-brexit-fears-hit-sales "Companies including Toyota, Jaguar Land Rover, and McLaren last year committed to a total of £1.1bn in future investment in the UK, down 34% compared with the £1.66bn committed in 2016 and below the average over the past few years. “A drop of that magnitude is a concern,” said Mike Hawes, chief executive of the SMMT, as he warned the government needed to provide “urgent clarity” on a transitional Brexit deal so that companies could press ahead with crucial spending decisions Sales down 10% in the UK, investment down 34% Maybe the Leave Brains Trust were right - yesterday's Brexit forecasts might have been overly optimistic
  23. I'm not really surprised. You all talk the talk, but the walk, well that's for someone else. Trouble is, nobody who supports Brexit can walk the walk. That's why they have people like Farage, IDS and Tim Martin as the rent-a-gobs instead of someone with a modicum of credibility.
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