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  1. Whatever deal we get, it will be worse than we have now. That much (and the reasons why) has been explained by the EU. You won't see a final deal for years - possibly almost a decade. Due to David Davis inability to recognise reality, there is now only around 9 months left to agree a trade deal. Which simply isn't going to happen.
  2. Of course it's in both side's interests. But it would be devastating for the UK, and merely a blip for the EU if we ended up with no deal. Everyone knew this from the start - yet many (including you) said we should walk away!
  3. UK will be worse off under almost all Brexit scenarios, finds think tank http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-brexit-economy-financial-gdp-no-deal-hard-soft-exit-eu-withdrawal-trade-rand-corporation-a8104921.html Feel free to dismiss the opinion of experts, Brexit luvas! Mind you, it's not all one way traffic "The model also found that the EU would also lose out under the WTO scenario, but the effect would be “relatively minor”, according to Rand: a 0.7 per cent drop in GDP 10 years after Brexit." -0.7% over 10 years. Man, that's really going to sting!
  4. You see theatre. Many of us see pantomime: Britain is squandering credibility as a negotiator https://www.ft.com/content/dc46b863-4b79-3b7c-ba7c-1a41300b26c1 "So what signal is the UK currently sending to countries with which it will want to enter serious negotiations about trade? The very worst one: that it does not take such matters seriously and its words cannot be relied on." I say, it's a bally good job we don't have another negotiations to carry out after we leave the EU isn't it?
  5. I think clutching at straws is actually too generous! "Daddy, a big boy the EU did it and ran away". P.S. Inflation up again (unexpectedly ) today to 3.1% - highest for 6 years.
  6. Two thirds of young people want Brexit abandoned, new poll says https://www.politicshome.com/node/91369 Oh dear, and they are the ones who are going to have to implement it and pay for it! As an aside, I wonder where the Conservative party are hoping to get all their new voters / members? "Elsewhere in the poll almost one in ten Leave voters (8%) said they also thought Britain should in fact remain in the EU."
  7. David Davis retracts suggestion UK could back out of Brexit deal on Irish border - Politics live https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/dec/11/theresa-may-statement-brexit-mps-commons-davis-seeks-to-heal-rift-with-ireland-over-brexit-deal-politics-live With people like David Davis representing the UK, all the EU has to do is sit back, watch and wait. Out of his depth and quite possibly out of his mind.
  8. Not sure what your point is*, we knew as long ago as June this year that Brexit would completely dominate the parliamentary timetable: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/queens-speech-today-latest-brexit-dominates-theresa-may-agenda-eight-bills-eu-withdrawal-a7800426.html Basically the UK parliament has become a wheel re-invention society for the next decade / however long it takes. * = It's OK, I'm used to seeing pointless posts from Brexitluvvers .
  9. Yep, I don't want to blow my own trumpet ()... but... I was one of many on here who predicted this. With Brexit related legislation taking up the majority of scheduled parliamentary time over the next two years - and most likely beyond - you can expect sudden crisis after crisis in the NHS, the economy, housing, etc as the collective eye is taken off the ball(s).
  10. And the counterpoint - "Global Britain" faces a tough time because the world is a full of much bigger players, some of whom spent a looong time negotiating their own trade deals with the EU. Global powers lobby to stop special Brexit deal for UK https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/09/global-powers-lobby-to-stop-special-brexit-deal-for-uk "Theresa May’s hopes of securing a unique post-Brexit trade deal with the EU were under threat on Saturday night as Brussels said it was coming under international pressure to deny Britain special treatment. After a week that saw May reach a deal with the EU that will allow Brexit talks to move forward on to future trade relations, EU officials insisted a bespoke deal more favourable to the UK than other non-EU nations was out of the question. One EU source close to the talks said: “We have been approached by a number of [non-member] countries expressing concerns and making it clear that it would constitute a major problem for them if suddenly the UK were to get better terms than they get.” Oh dear, very sad.
  11. Based on the speed of progress so far, I'd say that is a given. Maybe even the next but one.
  12. That covers 70% of their membership which explains his popularity with the "grass roots". The fact he and Farage are angry tells you everything you need to know about the shape of the Brexit that May is delivering. In the EU, but with no real power to change it and on worse terms in many areas. The funniest part is that it's going to take years of parliamentary time and tens of billions of pounds to get there. But hey, at least we'll have blue passports!
  13. True, but nobody (including our own government) is really sure when or if we'll really be leaving. Bad for business and consumer confidence.
  14. There are limited possibilities, but it looks very much like the UK (all of it) will be in the customs union in all but name. There is an outside chance that David Davis has assured May that his plan for a virtual reality border (using "glitter unicorn" technology being invented right now by boffins - honest guv) is how the UK thinks it can get around the issue.
  15. Yes to house price crash, but our benefits system is only ludicrously generous to a precious few people. Landlords in the main. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42236328 You DO NOT want to be out of work in the US for any period of time, but other countries in Europe seem to offer far better benefits than the UK in that regard: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/15/which-best-countries-live-unemployed-disabled-benefits How odd.
  16. Just a thought, but given that growth in the UK economy is slowing rapidly and the US and rest of the EU are picking up speed, these redundancies couldn't all be related to something else could they? I apologise in advance for talking the economy down / Project Fear / etc.
  17. He'd rather negotiate with May and Davis than someone who knows what they are doing As such, right now Junker is May's biggest supporter (on either side of the channel). Here's what Tusk said this morning: "We all know that breaking up is hard. But breaking up and building a new relation is much harder." "So much time has been devoted to the easier part of the task. And now, to negotiate a transition arrangement and a framework for our future relationship, we have de facto less than a year." It wasn't all wasted time though - we learned that David Davis was a liar and that nobody in the cabinet can tie their own shoelaces never mind do the kind of prep and research that a junior lawyer would need to do for a shoplifting case. As an aside, you are very chipper this morning considering that today is the day hard Brexit died. I have to ask - do you fall for PR from VIs every time, or is it just on the run up to Christmas?
  18. Forgot to add - this was supposed to be the "easy" bit. Should have all been agreed within 6 months of the referendum. Now the hard bit begins and all those promises about the border, etc come back to haunt them!
  19. We are getting Brexit the way I had my eggs this morning. Soft and runny
  20. He's just saying that to help May save face (and stop her government from collapsing). On the divorce settlement - UK conceded (£40-60Bn). On the Irish border - UK conceded (UK remains committed to "full alignment with the rules of the customs union and the single market" ). On citizens rights - UK conceded (ECJ still has jurisdiction for EU citizens in the UK). Capitulation on all fronts from the UK, and you try to frame that as victory, Goebbels would be proud!
  21. I said at the start that the Leave movement had all the hallmarks of religious extremism (blind faith, dismissive of facts, against compromise, need for "authority figures"). You're just proving it
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