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  1. On 22/11/2019 at 08:24, hurlerontheditch said:

    wont make much difference when we end up falling out of the EU and the £ drops. 

    Falling out? I thought it was crash out. All stupid terms of course designed to instil fear in the poorly informed.

    The £ is rising at the prospect of leaving the EU under a Boris deal. If you have any assets, money in the bank or have a job be very afraid of a Labour Government. I think most of the sensible forum members left to buy a house after the Gordon Brown years...

  2. On 22/11/2019 at 15:07, Bruce Banner said:

    I will be voting LibDem because that is the best tactical choice, in my constituency, to get the Tories out. 

    However, if the best tactical choice was Labour, BP or Green, I would vote for that party.


    So you are a man of no political integrity then. Like Chuka, standing for a different party every week

  3. Exactly, let them get on with it. Fact is, people always vote tactically in the GE, but as remainers are new to the concept of our elections and politics, the likes of Gina Nadira Singh (Miller) are frankly too stupid to know this. It also goes a long way to explain why they are incapable of accepting the result of the referendum. They act like a child who has been told no for the first time in their lives. Well children, you need to know how to be a looser.

  4. 4 hours ago, winkie said:

    How many bedrooms does one person require to live.....how many bedrooms do people require to store the stuff they accumulate over their lives that very often ends up going in a skip or down the charity shop.....you don't really need it and the kids don't want it.

    Do you think that if you didn't have the spare rooms your kids would not visit you at Christmas?....;)

    That would be true, depends what stuff though, some people are worst hoarders than others.  I wouldn't know about kids visits, I don't have any! As for the rooms it depends how far away the kids are, any more than 6 hours drive is more than a day trip for them

  5. 6 hours ago, iamnumerate said:

    I personally don't want to judge them - just stop giving them money.  Both should take responsibility for their offering.

    However men expect the state to pay for them - because it does, if it didn't they would have to change.

    We live in an overcrowded world - we  should not pay anyone lots of money to have children.


  6. 4 hours ago, Riedquat said:

    Sure, I agree with all your points, but it's easy to do so when you're on the winning side. I don't agree with most of what BB has to say on the matter, but I do understand that he's not accepting it and being p1ssed off about it. And maybe if the result had gone the other way I'd be similar - probably not, I don't feel that passionately against the EU, but I certainly do on other matters and what they're doing to the country, and regard indifference and acceptance despite dislike a big part of why they're like they are.

    "Learn to deal with it" and "don't let it get to you" are phrases I hate, a tools those who are trying to shove through what they want and expecting others to just sit back and be happy with it. If you p1ss someone off then one of the consequences of that is people unhappy with you. "Accept it" is trying to bury that consequence, somehow trying to paint it as their fault for being annoyed, refusing to acknowledge that your actions have had a negative effect on other people.

    I'd be a hypocrite if I supported using those sentiments against people who disagree with me.

    I've been on the losing side, but never made as much fuss as these remainers. Ever since 1975 we have had to 'deal with it' - with the EEC/EU membership. We did deal with it, mostly silently - even though being constantly being belittled and interfered with by them. Slaves to our EU masters on everything. Years and years of it. Well in 2016 we finally got to have our say again and the people spoke and decided enough was enough and voted to leave. Now its the losing side turn to put up and shut up, like we had to. We expect it of you.

  7. 1 hour ago, scottbeard said:

    I sincerely doubt that is how it would have played out.

    Just look at the Scottish referendum - clear No came back.  What's happened since?  The Scottish National Party are going from strength to strength.

    When the country is so divided neither side was ever likely to lie down.  Had the referendum result been 65:35 or 70:30 then maybe, but not 52:48 whichever way it went.

    It seems to be, ask the question. If you don't get the result you want keep asking it again and again. It's what the EU do all the time, so thats why the SNP are doing it even though there is no support from the public on it. It will be interesting how many seats they get this time. Though the Tories might loose some up there due to Ruth quitting. I'll personally be glad to see the back of the SNP.

  8. I was doing some number crunching last night looking for patterns between London and everywhere else in the UK. It seems to be that London really is overvalued even with these low interest rates. While googling a year or so ago I did find a very good report by Ulster Bank about the relationship between NI house market crash, the Dublin crash and the crash in London. Cannot find it at all these days.

  9. 23 hours ago, winkie said:

    empty bedrooms and en suites....all saved for when friends and relatives visit, when they rarely do....and anyway they can stay for a few pounds down the road doing their own thing and visit for good food, laughter and a chat, then return home..... do people honestly buy bedrooms for other people to stay in?.....



    Do you mean pubs? Old people homes?

    No they don't buy bedrooms for other people to stay in they buy spare bedrroms for office use, for when the wife has a headache or they are in the doghouse, for hobby use, music, guitars whateve,r or maybe a kid when it arrives. The older people keep the bedrooms for when the children come back at xmas etc. But I agree with your sentiment. Big houses are a drain if its only you in there

  10. 7 hours ago, spyguy said:

    Thatchers housing/credit boom has short lived - 87ish to 92ish.

    Afert rising to ~5.5/6 x earnigns, housing fell under 3x earning.

    Labour/Brown/media were so bent and in deial they could not even call the recession a recession, using 'credit crunch instead'


    Brown effectively removed all restraint and restrictions on banks after 99ish, resulting i nthe biggest boom that the UK has ever seen, followed by the biggest.

    As a direct conquence of Browns policies, the UK has lost 75% of its banks, a generation is being brought up in housing poverty, all for a vain glorious, scots one eye ncut to try and appear clever.

    Absolutely. But people either forget this or have some amazingly different view of reality from the rest of us. I call it a warped mind.

  11. 4 minutes ago, Riedquat said:

    Whilst I completely disagree with Bruce about Brexit if he feels strongly about it then quite honestly I'd rather he was bitter and angry and not accepting it and keeps saying so. Better that than expecting people to meekly go along with the crowd, not able to have enough passion to get annoyed by anything they care about. To accept when you strongly disagree is to be browbeaten down into acceptance. If you care enough about something to get angry about it being threatened at least you've still got some soul left.

    OK. But if leave had lost then we would have had a week or two of complaining about it then that would have been it. Back to life under the EU and continued surrender. We tried. Oh well. Accept and carry on. Maybe the EU will collapse anyway.

    But these remainers are STILL going on about it trying to reverse a democratic vote. You have to implement the result of a democratic referendum first. Maybe in 20 years you can have a crack at rejoining, but only then. This was all explained before the referendum. But here we are still having to explain the obvious to people like its still 2016. It's crazy.

    I would rather be talking about house prices (apart from on the brexit thread), but a few odd remainers keep straying on here spouting their crap and I can't sit back and not comment on it.

  12. What are you on about? I'd say from most peoples perspective here the fool is you.

    The only person bitter and angry is you who voted in the minority and lost and cannot accept it. We are going to leave the European Union. I'll say it again.

    We are going to leave the European Union

    ......and there's nothing you can do about it.

    Accept it.

  13. 58 minutes ago, msi said:

    the majority of the UK that could be bothered to vote voted to leave the EU.

    Fixed for you :)


    Well if you don't vote than you can't complain the result wasn't what you wanted. I fixed your assumption for you though. Turnout for the referendum was 72.2 %. Very high by todays standards beating the turnout of all the general elections after 1992.

  14. 49 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said:

    No they didn't! 


    1,269,501‬ more people voted leave than remain. What part of 17.4 million people don't you understand? Thats quite a result. If I take away the foreign leave voters from Gibraltar that Cameron added in to try and cheat the result -  leave won by over 2.2 million. Listen it's no longer 2016. Are you going to let this rule your life? Accept it and move on. You will be far less angry and bitter as a person if you did.

  15. 18 hours ago, Simhadri said:



    Good to have some cash reserve of 6 months back up.

    What a timing, Brexit and recession. 

    I won't blame this on Brexit or Gordon Brown, because its GLOBAL recession not just UK recession.

    There is no recession coming. The mainstream media have been touting this idea for ages and they have been wrong. The mainstream media nearly always never sees a crash coming. Their main motivation of the recession idea it seems is to will a US recession in the hope it will hurt President Trumps relection chances. Failing that democrats are trying to have him impeached.

  16. 11 hours ago, MarkG said:

    Socialists a few years ago: "Venezuela is a glowing example of the success of socialism!"

    Socialists today: "Venezuela isn't a socialist country, it's a capitalist country!"

    My God. Are you people ever going to stop doubling-down on the stupid?

    You could get away with this twenty years ago when you controlled The Narrative. But anyone can find your lies with a quick web search these days.


  17. 3 hours ago, Bruce Banner said:

    This election is all about Brexit and in the absence of any horrors in the manifesto, which after a skim read I haven't seen, I will be happy to vote Labour if that is the best tactical option, in my constituency, to get the Tories out.

    Having said that, I was pleasantly surprised by Corybn's delivery today, he's certainly looking more statesmanlike than BJ.   

    Like I say, you can vote as tactically as you like the fact of the matter is that the majority of the UK voted to leave the EU. They still would. Even more people including remainers believe the referendum result should be delivered as promised. So your tactical voting is going to produce a Tory win. Carry on....

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