Fudge
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o--kay.
So you say you can start a business, employ people and pay them a good pension (presumably this is what you care about, no?) but actually theres not enough in it for you to do so....
hmmm....
If you cant run a business that can pay a decent wage enough to keep people alive when they retire there is something seriously wrong with the system.
If this was the case with every business in the UK what would people do when they are to old to work?
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So erm
Why aren't you an employer then?
Because I am not that fussed about making lots of money.
I am happy with a fair days pay for a fair days work.
And I dont expect to live in poverty in my old age after a lifetime of work.
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How do you know?
Which is presumably the reason they are in business in the first place. No profits, no business, nothing for anyone.
For some reason you think people will employ others and not pay themselves first.
Why?
The reason I know because thats the way it works.
The more they give you, the less for them.
They will give you the absolute minimum they can get away with.
They will even let you work for nothing in the Big Society.
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Two thirds of private employers can't afford to put a single penny towards employees pensions, as they are forced to pick up a massive long term benefits bill + the overhead of the public sector who administer it.
They can afford it they just dont want to pay it.
They would rather keep it as profits.
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You can't pay a decent wage and the taxman and comply with all the regulations.
Why can't you get this simple fact?
Most employers are tiny businesses, not megacorps.
Two thirds of private sector employers don't put a single penny towards their employees pensions, forcing taxpayers into picking up massive long term benefits bill.
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Ah denial.
Thats going to work!
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Private sector people can't afford pensions because the public sector keeps increasing taxes and regulation.
They can if their employers pay them a decent wage and stop driving down wages and conditions.
I know companies where I live that have made billions over the years and are worth billions that have stopped employees pensions
on the basis that they cant afford it.
Of course employers are going to stop providing staff with pensions if they can get away with.
Every penny going on someone's pension is one penny less profit for them.
But as employees we shouldn't be so soft in letting them get away with it.
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So some employers in the private sector decided they weren't going to pay their employees decent pensions.
Other employers saw this and decided to do the same in the interests of fairness of course.
Then when private sector workers pensions were compared with pubic sector pensions it was blatantly unfair so the answer is to cut public sector pensions.
So what if a some private sector employers decides to stop all paid holidays.
What then?
Are the other private sector workers then obliged to accept that they will not get any paid holidays?
And if they do, are then the public sector workers obliged to accept no paid holidays?
But it isn't all employees in private sector organisations that don't get a decent pension.
Management often get decent private pensions as part of their remuneration along with things like free private healthcare and company car.
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Well the 6 o'clock news on bbc1 has it in the headlines and it's the 2nd piece within the show!
The sheeple will be getting scared!
That was quite a good report.
Worth a watch on iPlayer when it is posted.
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My brother is in exactly this position.
Had a offer yesterday and accepted it.
Been on the market a year.
The buyer is a builder so might not pull out.
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-3.6% drop in a month is a significant event
its a sign of things to come
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I assume that when he says that the rule won't apply to the disabled he means "people who need extra income specifically because of their disability, not "everybody who can't get a job because of a disability".
tim
The Employment & Support Allowance which has replaced disability benefit is becoming much tougher now.
Even people with genuine disabilities are being forced onto Job Seekers Allowance where they are being forced into work.
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I think the socialists on here want the £500 per week raised to whatever a top banker gets.
The bankers have a lot in common with the welfare cheats, they are both parasites living off the wealth created by others.
Just that the welfare cheats are a lot cheaper to keep.
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You are right. If you have high taxes, and don't even get good services and a good infrastructure back, nor a well educated labour force, then the private sector doesn't grow. You are absolutely right.
Go from there, and you will start to understand everything.
Do you really think that there is enough necessary work for every single person in the UK to do their whole lifetime?
In a world of globalisation, automisation and ever increasing productivity?
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As much as I detest benefit scroungers, just one question Mr Osborne if I may.
WHERE ARE THE JOBS GOING TO COME FROM FOR THESE PEOPLE TO DO?
Damn.
I knew there had to be a flaw in this cunning plan.
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Should the tax payer pay money to rich landlords so that poor people can stay there and average-waged people can't?
Does not compute.
No should never have allowed the rich landlords into this position.
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No, he's quite right. The only possible reason you would think the state cared about you is if you'd confused it with your parents.
I dont think the state cares about me and I never said it did.
Working people demanded and won concessions from Capitalism after the 2nd world war because they were not prepared to continue with the class ridden system
after so many working class people sacrificed their lives during the 1st and 2nd world wars.
Those concessions came in the form of the welfare state.
Since then Capitalism has tried to claw back these concessions.
Mainly by shifting the tax burden from the well off to the average worker.
Now they want to drastically cut public services.
Do you really think they will slash taxes of the average working joe?
Of course not. They will cut taxes for the rich.
You will be paying high taxes and getting ****** all back for it in the way of public services.
It will all go to the City wizz kids because its just another way off siphoning off the wealth created by working people.
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No you are trying to justify a long term system of theft and oppression on the back of your mordern interpretation of a never exisitant heyday of "fair" taxation.
The guys that take your money have never cared about you, ever. The fact is that you are looking through your psycological glitch that, Authority = Mummy = Is looking after you.
You are not alone in this dellusion, but you can shake yourself free from it.
A glimpse of the mind stuck in a Randian reality tunnel.
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London house prices must be crashing right now.
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Not really. Its just gentrification.
Force the poor out of central London so they can sell the houses to the City wizz kids.
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Did you manage to write this with a straight face. I mean its obviously such utter utter toss I can only believe you are joking.
You think feudal serfs were paying for ambulances and fire brigades?
The modern justification for mass organised theft (Tax) is to provide public services especially for those that can't afford them but it has variously been:
"Because I have a sword"
"Because you are a peasant"
"Because I am divine"
"To keep Frenchy at bay"
"For the furtherance of empire"
"To pay back the debts of the war you lost"
Go read a book FFS.
I am talking about modern history after the middle ages.
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So you agree high taxes, rents and mortgages are the problem and not wages?
it'd be easy to save if housing wasn't so damn expensive and the state didn't tax so damn much, I would have thought. But there are all those wars to pay for and all those public sector workers to fund....
This is a circular argument.
The reason housing is so expensive is because a bubble was created to allow people to MEW to make up for the fact wages have stagnated since the 1970's.
The reason workers pay so much in tax is to provide public services to people who are the losers in the system who cannot obtain decent paid work.
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Prices would fall, and at the lower prices goods and services would be sold again. We would also be living in a more competitive low-cost economy able to create jobs instead of just exporting them.
Prices would not fall.
Prices dont fall just because wages fall.
The system does not care if people dont earn enough money to provide for food and shelter.
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It's a fortune.
If they are rent and mortgage free.......
How do you become rent and mortgage free on £26 K a year.
I listened to Osbourne speech saying we should move away from the debt based society and save more.
How can you put money away on £26K a year?
They live in another world.
Come to think of it they do live in another world.
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Why shocked, thats not a bad wage! infact it is quite good up my way! I have two kids and a wife and dont get anywhere near that. We do ok, but we dont have any debts or subscriptions so after utility bills and rent whats left is ours!
If I have £50 a week pocket money i'm happy with that! I suppose it depends on how you look on life, some of my mates think nowt of blowing £50 on a night out on the booze and cant imagine how i make £50 last a week.....simple I dont p1ss it up a wall.
Both adults working full time. £26K a year.
In this day and age its disgraceful.
Public Sector Pensions Report Calls For Rise In Workers' Contributions
in House prices and the economy
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Is has been done in the past employers were able to pay decent pensions.
They are still able to, they just can get away with not doing so because of weak private sector unions.