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  1. Which is exactly what has happened in the construction industry. Plenty of ten day wonders (duration of apprentiship) come to site and will work for way less than the job is worth so our prices are through the floor.
  2. Its the pink lumpy walls that i dont like
  3. The industry is on its last legs as far as i can see, some of the firms (even the big ones) are now taking all the scrap from the lads and weighing it in themselves. some lads are already relying on that bit of extra money to top up there wage but now thats gone as well. Im past caring about my trade now so i couldnt care less if the industry dies on its ****, im losing work to lads who have been on a ten day course to become a joiner and this also pushes our prices down because the course lads think they are earning a good wage for the work they are doing but are in fact being robbed blind. Thats the trouble with my trade, go to a skill centre for ten days and then have your picture taken by an assessor and you are now a joiner. lots of these apprentiships being created for the construction industry are just pushing certain trades out of work. sparks and plumbers still do proper time served apprentiships but its mostly a quick course and photo for the other "trades". like i said, i should have been a spark
  4. Thats what i like to hear Can i borrow your steps a minute mate, always got good step ladders sparks
  5. I agree with all of that except point 4, i was born on a rock hurtling through space but im not allowed to take a piece of disused land to build my shelter on because its not my land. How did the first ever land owners get their land because i know they didnt buy it. Which brings up a question i missed in a previous post, how much does it cost to build a house ? I could build a 2 bed terrace for what people are currently saving for their house deposits. cant do that without the land though.
  6. The good thing you have got going for you is that you are a spark, im a joiner so lots of the work we should be doing maintenance wise gets put off till next year whereas a lot of your work is essential upgrades or repairs so cant be put off. I should have been a spark but thank god im not a bricky because there trade has been hit the hardest with all the new builds stopping. A good spark fits his own noggins. remember that and the joiners will be alrite with you
  7. The younger lads dont really stand a chance at the moment, when they come out of their time they will either get no extra money or laid off so they just get their qualifications and leave in the hope that one day things might improve. If they want to get a better wage in the construction industry they will have to go the sub contractor route and chase the price work, lads with 20 years under their belts have walked away from price work jobs because they can no longer make it pay so a lad fresh out of his time wont stand a chance because they wont be fast enough yet. The workloads have increased to joke levels and are still increasing so when a young lad gets his van insurance quote come through at £2.5k to £3.5k its all starting to get a bit much on a wage of £220 to £300 a week. Add to this its very common for people to be seriously injured or killed on site then its just not worth it anymore when the wage you get wont put a roof over your head (unless you live in your van, if you can afford to insure it that is). The lads i know just stay with their parents and do any private work that comes in which is very little nowadays and come april ill probably be walking away from my job if i have not already been laid off that is. April is when our prices get knocked down without fail plus my van insurance is due and i just about managed to pay it this year so i know i wont stand a chance next year. Almost forgot, yes the work is pretty awful nowadays and now winters on its way so we will have to do the same amount of work but in sub zero temperatures, i think a few more lads will end up walking off site and i wouldnt want to be one of the first year apprentices enduring my first winter on site and the added bonus of extra work.
  8. I have to disagree with the dole pittance, yes its a pittance if you are single but once you get a few kids on the go it is quite profitable. lots on the dole around here are doing a hell of a lot better in life than i am and doing nothing for it.
  9. A 10k pay rise would make a massive difference to my life but i wont see that percentage rise for years and years. I cant see how much longer this can go on because people are already walking away from work because it wont pay the bills knowing full well they are getting into debt the longer they stay out of work. These are people who bought homes during the boom years ( i chose not to) and also some of the younger lads are coming out of their time and instantly walking away from site (lots get laid off anyway) because they know whatever they earn they will never be able to save a penny towards a house or even afford a basic rental. well they could save a little bit but that will get spent during the next period of no work. I heard something about 200k new homes to be built to kick start the construction industry and solve the housing crisis, ill let you all know what wages the big house builders are paying because i know full well you wont be able to put a roof over your head from them.
  10. I wouldnt really call it freedom swapping one job for another, its either put yourself through the ridiculous workload on a daily basis on site or take a supermarket or factory job if you are lucky enough to find one. A CAREER in the construction industry is not a wise move anymore, get a trade and you will never be out of work no longer applys.
  11. I cant even be an employee in my line of work. I have to be a sole trader self employed sub contractor who works for a main sub contractor who back hands the main contractor so he can supply the labour to site and consequently take a big cut of my wages. Some trades are earning £80 top line for a days work so once you take off tax, national insurance, fuel, insurances, consumables, tool repairs, new tools etc etc over the space of a year ( less christmas and all bank holidays which we dont get paid for) you cannot earn enough to even rent a 1 bed flat. You are doing well if you can manage to get 10/11 months work a year at the moment. Some people have already walked off site and gotten factory or supermarket work and some people have simply just walked off site with no job lined up because the workload was taking its toll on them physically. My latest director has just bought some brand new fancy jag to add to his fleet of look at me cars so he isnt exactly feeling the pinch.
  12. Bad times in the building game at the moment, i also dont get fuel, sick pay, van, tools, consumables or a penny of dole when im laid off. The wages the firms are paying at the moment are a joke, im currently working for the absolute minimum i would take for being on the tools. Next time prices get hit on site (probably april) ill be trying for a factory or supermarket job because im already working on site for the same wage as those jobs pay.
  13. None of the contractors i work for take anybody on cards in anymore, its now all self employed sub contracting work and some firms are getting rid of their cards in employees by contracting work to subbys so that there isnt enough left for their own lads. The fights have already started
  14. This is becoming quite common in the construction industry, a few firms i regulary work for do not borrow money any more. I have worked on sites that suddenly just shut down for a while until the firm recieves a payment from another job they have running. Gone are the days when firms would borrow money during a hard spell so they could keep their employees in work. Well there is still one big main contractor in my area borrowing money from a certain bank (this bank has also invested heavily in the company), rumours started about a month ago that this main contractor was about to go bust and it is looking more likely by the day. not a very good investment for the bank. Could the bank now start calling this firms loans in because it is one of the ones that have been downgraded ? or will this have no effect.
  15. I wouldnt want to be a boss in my line of work if this comes in.
  16. Let me know if you find out because i will be doing the same, i can build a perfectly good house for 30 to 40k but cant due to land prices.
  17. My full time skilled job currently does not pay enough for me to buy a house and live in it, thousands more are in the same boat as me, if everything is going to start costing more yet again then i cant see there being many working people putting up with this situation much longer.
  18. Good to hear, ive pretty much had enough now so if these gypsies dont get evicted i should be in my own home with no mortgage by christmas i reckon
  19. Buying, replacing, testing of tools is the biggy for us who work in the construction industry (depending on your trade) I definitely picked the wrong trade
  20. The only reason i still get out of bed to go to work every morning is the work ethic you mention, im perfectly capable of earning a living but its now got to the stage were i work a full week and i still cant afford to house myself, cant even rent except maybe a room as a lodger and im basicaly doing that at my parents anyway. its going to take me another 5 or 6 years of saving every penny i can on top of the 5 years ive already done and then maybe i might be able to buy a basic terrace outright (or maybe not). My calculations are based on not missing a days work for the next 5 years which is highly unlikely as i have been laid off 4 times this year already plus my wages have taken a hit over the last two years and just this morning we were hearing rumours off more price drops on site. God knows how long i will keep trying to get a roof over my head because i know a lad who i work with walked off site not long ago because he had had enough of grafting all week long and knowing full well hes not getting anywhere, one of the other lads will be following him pretty soon because i can tell he is about to snap so there is no chance he will get through the winter on site if hes already nearly snapping. The reason people go to work everyday is because thats what you are supposed to do and it also gives you a certain sense of pride, from what im starting to see around me this pride also applys to having the pi55 took out of you on a daily basis by bent construction firms, bent housing associations, bent benefit claimants, bent banks and last but not least the bent government. People i know feel like mugs for carrying on working (myself included) so your pride takes a hit everyday you go to work knowing full well you are getting nowhere fast whilst all the dodgy ones i mentioned are doing alright for themselves. I think the government like the fact that britain has so many hard working proud people, they might change their minds when all those proud hard working people say **** it ive had enough and just stop working. Long story short, most people i know are ready for throwing the towel in.
  21. Is this true because ive got the money for the materials and me and my mates build houses for a living so i could be in it in a couple of months with their help, im up for trying anything at the moment, underground house, tree house or whatever. I jst dont want to be thrown out of it after spending 25k on materials
  22. Today i recieved a flyer through the door from david wilson homes asking if i would be interested in purchasing a home on the new estate in newton le willows (probably a mile from where the roundabout sign is) via the new government homebuy scheme, 85k for a 1 bed new build hutch that i can afford to buy but cant afford to live in, no thanks. So far ive had 2 of my mates ring me to tell me they have got the flyer as well, one lives in wigan and one in liverpool, seems to be quite a large are to cover with flyers to sell a few 5hitty houses if you ask me. I bet the roundabout sign gets covered with a david wilson home sign pretty soon
  23. I think a plot of land should be a basic human right, i can build my own house for under 50k easily but cant due to the price of land. How do people originally claim the land as their own in the first place, ive ran out of options to house myself so i am now clutching at straws if anybody could help i would be most grateful
  24. Ill probably be in the next cell to you then because im hearing that word said by more and more people lately. The working man is a proud man and thats what the government wants us to be like so they keep getting their taxes but its got to a point now were me and people i know cant even rent a 1 bed flat never mind buy a house whilst the scum are spitting out kids as fast as they can and earning a fortune for doing absolutely nothing. Pride works both ways, nobody likes to have the pi55 took out of them do they, so at some point i think this country will just grind to a halt, you dont have to riot to be heard, just stop going to work (evrybody) what would happen then. They cant evict everybody in britain for not paying their mortgages can they. I could do with a bit of time off myself anyway Is it really that hard to bring a law in that forbids people who have no way to support a child from having more and more children for profit, Its pretty obvious to me that if that law came in there would be thousands less unwanted children born every year. we have now got the next generation of kids doing exactly what their parents did and having a kid asap to get the freebies asap (after the lessons from mum and dad on how to do it). our government are willingly letting people have children for no other reason than bumping up their benefits, keep calm and carry on
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