byron78

Thankfully we shouldn't worry about every man and his dog. Just the Russian warmonger polluting democracies around the world.

Which instantly begs the question... how is Denmark able to do this in the EU when (for ages) our lot swore blind that was what was holding them back...

Indeed. It'll keep the racists and Daily Fail lot happy. Well. Relatively...

Indeed. It's VERY easy to sway people with emotional responses or feelings tbh. That's why companies spend trillions on advertising. Because it works. Ask most people why they voted Brexit and you usually get "sovereignty" (my own reason for voting Leave). Then you get the "it felt like the right thing to do" response next. What Brexit wasn't was a "win". Because I'm not sure what we've actually "won", other than Europe's first land war since WW2, soaraway house price inflation, lorry queues, and shortages all over most of our industries. All with zero investment or plan as to how to train our own to replace all that. 2.5K to get an HGV licence in this country! What have we done to help British proles get one? ****** all.

Yep. Editted my above post as I suspect that's how international legal channels will see it. Would predict half a billion being flushed before then but it does allow some nice GE lies and grandstanding. This lot have no problem wasting tax payer cash in such ways of course.

Only the poor ones who can't buy our political and legal systems. I'll predict now that no one will end up actually being sent to Rowanda. I'm told they expect long court delays etc. Plan is it will be a flagship GE policy. I.e, "Vote for us and we'll send them all to Africa!" Honestly can't see how it's legal internationally etc. Predict it'll just cost the country another small fortune in stupid and will eventually collapse.

Erm. We know Putin interfered in the Scottish referendum, the US elections, and Brexit. But you do you Hun.

Is this another one along Billionaire's Row in New York? That place is what Central London will look like in another decade or so imho.

Could happen. Putin is definitely funding the far right throughout Europe in the hope it will. Where's Aaron Banks these days? Given he dropped 8M for Brexit (and promises that definitely definitely didn't just come from Putin via a back channel via his previously implicated as a Russian spy wife) you'd have thought he could spare a bit of change to help the fishermen whose livelihoods he's helped ruin...

Bit like a goalkeeper claiming to have thrown the ball into their own net rather than concede. How many Russians back home are waking up to it all I wonder?

It has. It just hasn't realised yet.

If a prole fiddled their taxes half as much as this lot have they'd get fines and jail. This is all turning into a wonderful example of how and where our society is broken tbh.

It's not a straw man though is it? It's literally how the world worked for hundreds (thousands?) of years before democracy. Daft eegit this one.

He's as good as gone then. Locals will be a wipeout. And rightly so.

KGB news though, so...

The (obvious) thing he misses is that money = power. Power = control. Low taxes and letting the elite keep most of what they can grasp has led us to this point. Governments controlled and run by the few for the few. I can see how the above could seem like to root and source of all evil, but it's really just become a tool of the elite now. That doesn't mean any of us would be better off without a central system to maintain the military, our roads, healthcare, law/order, trade, etc etc. But they're not bright enough to make that leap...

Do people REALLY think an 80s Labour government would have sold everything and poured the hundreds of billions we had then in oil revenue over the city of London for a short-term boom just before an election? Really??? Okay...

I actually think it's more interesting now we're in the era of "global" corporations. Fact is, a lot (most?) people in the UK work for private companies owned and operated by various financial structures from around the world. I'm a lifelong Tory, but I will always put the people of this country over and above what the realities of a "free market" actually entail.

We all lost.

That would be Marine-in the pocket of Putin-le-Pen. Gosh. It's almost like Putin has an orchestrated strategy for destablising the EU, isn't it?

I do know what you mean. And I can also see why the lower classes take issue with Eastern European workers etc. I stand by my prediction that Brexit will see the UK swing back towards stronger unions and more socialist tendancies as well. Sort of inevitable once you restrict a labour market (the labour has more bartering power).

Everyone I ever knew at the Beeb was always even posher than Rees-Mogg (who's not as posh as he pretends to be, of course).

The amount of stuff everyone in the UK has lost this past 40 years is scary tbh. Both Tory and New Labour to blame.

Plus EVs are more fun! I can only imagine how much more so in Telsa, but even in my Nissan Leaf I leave everyone for dust at traffic lights etc. Brilliant brilliant thing.

Ah.