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the latest breaking news headline... "Only 17 of a planned 56 G4S staff turned up for work at the Olympic team hotel in Salford this morning, Manchester police say"

Those I know who have MEW'd currently are up for sale at unrealistic prices. Thos that have not don't seem to care what their "home is worth" and just plod along all the same.

Quick look online shows RGN wages are arounf £12p/h, upto those who are more qualified £30 a hour.

Even the local car boots here charge 50p per entrant, its the sort of bottom of the market, paying to look round some ones elses junk. The local park and rides used to charge per car, they now charge per person so if you have a car of 4 people it costs £8 to use, car of 1 costs just £2. Many more things that don't make sense to me, including the local Zoo, circa £15 to get in.

makes sense, use your own printer for withdrawals and the shredder for paying in.

simply not true, yes the starting wage is not great, but there is loads of scope for learning and career advancement, if you had the basically trained nurses on higher wages then in turn all the more qualified nurses would demand higher renumeration.

I've never dealt with any contract bigger than a bit of labour for a bit of cash, but I agree it does not seem even to simple me that its the acceptable way the contract is played out.

comes under the general term "business"

I would guess they will be miffed. Should they just be greatful though that its only 5% cut and the changes to the contract terms are just reducing those that where overly generous to begin with.

Estate agents going bust? must be 3 new ones in my local town over the last couple of years, admitally opened up by those that worked for one that went under previously.

Or as mentioned above go the self employment route, just say you do 30 hours a week and submit you tax return declaring amounts that leave you behold the threshold anyway. For a single person over 25 is only worth about £52 a week, but get your circumstances right and the hours required are less and the credits are a whole lot more.

Due to all thats come to light, what will G4S insurers stance be?

I'm only talking about the higher levels of management, of course the workers on the ground won't get put up, bunka bins have been set up though for the temporary workforce. As I understand its only those working inside the venues that will be paid £8.50 per hour, others outside are on the NMW. Either way for locals that have been unemployed the wage level would make no difference.

22k is the average, though thats meaningless, some higher up the chain will be paid more than that and the cost will be many times higher, lower down and the workers on the ground will be paid relatively small amounts.

ability to breed, has that been mentioned yet?

WTC means you can take a min wage job and get paid multiples more depending on individuals circumstances.

no one is paying for it yet, its all on the credit card at the moment

You mention supervisor, but you seem to of missed all the levels above a supervisor, thats where you need to look for the larger wage bills.

Supermarkets churn out so products that cost pence to make and sell it for pounds, really no different. All big businesses are succesful because they take advantage some where, here they take advantage of a corrupt customer and desperate employees.

I believe they are providing temp accomadation in the form of those small cabins. I dunno if the workers get paid expenses for travel and accomadation or not? I will say with certainty that those at the top of this chain will be fully expensed accomadation and and the like. If you have a manager on £2k a day and they work for 30days, wages £60k, hotel (£200 a night)£6k, travel and food(£50 a day)£1500... you then start to see how it adds up to a lot of money, before a profit margin is built in.

It was already said on the BBC that the cost averaged at 22k per member off staff, some are kept on for the paralell games so they will be on the job longer than a month. As I understand it there are some very lucrative parts of the contract though including the catering, so that means they must be feeding the staff on duty, 65 million was quoted. Management costs where a large chunk also, no doubt there wil be some managers on a few thousand a day. So the average cost is pretty meaningless to what the front line individuals will get paid, be it min wage or slightly higher. As its a private contract it will be pretty hard to find out where the money actually goes.

Even has a "stream to the boundary", not sure thats a claim that many would want to read. "Has flooding potencial" is what I would read.

did we ever get any news who was on the winning side of these "bets", it would of been just as reckless, so why are we not hearing about it?

the average salary is higher than 16k though

But f its the case you are relying on a monthly wage to get through the next month and have no contingency plan should you not get paid or lose you employment then thats not a ideal mortage customer is it?