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  1. Rolling blackouts

    Civil unrest

    A police state

    Food costs representing by far the largest portion of your expenditure

    A return to unambiguous serfdom

    Global resource wars

    Possibly in as little as a decade

    30 years at the outside

    I'll get my coat.....

    We'll only get rolling blackouts if your sort get control of energy policy.

  2. Perhaps we need to build lots more windfarms, just so we can pay them to turn off when the wind is blowing. Yes, this happens. Sheer lunacy.


    Energy firms will receive thousands of pounds a day per wind farm to turn off their turbines because the National Grid cannot use the power they are producing.

    Critics of wind farms have seized on the revelation as evidence of the unsuitability of turbines to meet the UKs energy needs in the future. They claim that the intermittent nature of wind makes such farms unreliable providers of electricity.

    The National Grid fears that on breezy summer nights, wind farms could actually cause a surge in the electricity supply which is not met by demand from businesses and households.

    The electricity cannot be stored, so one solution known as the balancing mechanism is to switch off or reduce the power supplied.

    The system is already used to reduce supply from coal and gas-fired power stations when there is low demand. But shutting down wind farms is likely to cost the National grid and ultimately consumers far more. When wind turbines are turned off, owners are being deprived not only of money for the electricity they would have generated but also lucrative green subsidies for that electricity.

    The first successful test shut down of wind farms took place three weeks ago. Scottish Power received £13,000 for closing down two farms for a little over an hour on 30 May at about five in the morning.

    Whereas coal and gas power stations often pay the National Grid £15 to £20 per megawatt hour they do not supply, Scottish Power was paid £180 per megawatt hour during the test to switch off its turbines.

  3. I've only read the blog but he is right about the astonishing lack of anger in the up and coming generation. Maybe they are all lost in the fantasy worlds of cyber space? Would that explain it?

    I think they don't really care so long as they have their gigs, their weekend drinking, the football. I think those who will end up most angry will be the baby-boomers when they'll be sitting in a £400k house but with no grandchildren to visit it, the social changes their generation led to means their family has come to the end of the line.

  4. Nutritionists? The NHS must have thousands of them, let them have a vote on it!

    I would say tax Coca Cola but not pure orange juice for example. Many would disagree....

    Well the answer is that the huge majority individual foods can not be categorised as healthy or unhealthy, it is the diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.

  5. So, that would be pretty much every single geologist, physicist, and atmospheric and oceanic scientist who has ever seriously looked at the problem for the last century is an 'AGW catastrophist'.?

    (Ok, sensitivity for CO2 doubling is almost certainly in the range 2.5-3K, making your statement utterly bizarre in excluding pretty much everyone.. but there you go. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that 4-6K means by 2100)

    What? The no-feedback temperature response to a CO2 doubling is actually just 1c.

    The latest evidence suggests feedbacks are net negative, meaning that the likely response is even less than that.

  6. Look, if you ask me, then as you know I'd say the correct way to go about this is to build out large amounts of zero-CO2 electricity capacity - backed by the government, since CO2 reductions cannot be done through market forces - so that homes and industry have a large supply of very low cost, zero-CO2 electricity. Get that done and the rest will fall into place; people will stop using carbon emitting fuels if electricity is cheaper.

    This top-down imposition of targets will just drive industry abroard (so total CO2 emissions don't drop anyway) and generally annoy people. Those involved in environmental politics really need their heads banging together..

    They are attempting this zero-CO2 electricity capacity with wind power and it isn't working out very well.

    When we had an extreme system shortage over the weekend due to the high temperatures and associated aircon demand, guess how little wind there was? :rolleyes:

    It does not make sense to build a power system that is anti-correlated with demand, unless of course you like to see energy poverty and widespread de-industrialisation. Well that would suit the eco weenies just fine I presume.

  7. http://www.skepticalscience.com/On-the-reliability-of-the-US-Surface-Temperature-Record.htm

    The analysis has been done, according to the cirteria used by SurfaceStations, and they found, surprisingly, a very small cool bias in these 'badly sited' stations.

    You are, yet again, making stuff up to suit yourself.

    Nonsense. Anthony Watts co-ordinated the data, so in the true scientific method he should get the first right to use it. Instead the above paper was done as a hatchet job while Watts was focussing on the Climategate scandal. Let's wait for Watts paper, who has precedence to use the data as it was his project, rather than the above paper which is a pre-emptive CYA attempt as they doubt the integrity of the surface stations used to assess temperature.

  8. There is a lot of talk about deflation in the markets and the Bond market is showing every sign of heading into a deflationary cycle. IMO, its got to be the way after decades of inflation. As the economic cycle is cyclical it is obvious that deflation follows bursting bubbles. QE has not had an inflationary effect because of world oversupply and falling demand. Wages have been kept subdued and there is no capacity for higher prices. Thus houses must fall too.

    QE is very easy to keep up.

  9. http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/mpc-s-adam-posen-warns-britain-at-risk-of-japan-style-deflation-tele-a0ee93d37062.html?x=0

    MPC's Adam Posen warns Britain at risk of Japan-style deflation
    Edmund "Ed" Conway, 20:45, Monday 24 May 2010
    Britain is at risk of sliding into a Japan-style episode of deflation, and may be even worse-equipped than the Asian country to escape, a Bank of England policymaker has warned.

    Hmm, let me think about this for awhile. No, no need to , I agree with Adam.

    These clowns must have a VI because they can always print.

    They know they can print.

    We know they can print.

    They know that we know they can print.

    They just know that we know that the idiots out there don't know what printing is, nor do the Danny Blanchflower's, or anyone that matters.

    In other words, we're right, but who gives a shit? So long as the majority and Dickhead Blanchflower's don't agree, they can do whatever the hell they like.

    One day they'll find so can we.

  10. :lol: that's just one MASSIVE ad hom directed at anyone who questions man made climate change.

    they even mention holocaust denial in the same paragraph as climate scepticism!:

    "Denial is today most often associated with climate science, but it is also encountered elsewhere. For example, there are those who do not believe that HIV causes AIDS. Others say that the Holocaust did not happen, or reject the overwhelming evidence for evolution. All merit the moniker "denier", because no matter how much evidence is laid out before them they continue to deny the claim."

    The article was not set out to assess honestly the climate debate.

    Man made climate change is a guaranteed - our effect on monitored temperatures is well known and accounted for at www.surfacestations.org - a lot of the change in global temperatures is because thermometers have been relocated to near airports, large city centres, and BBQs. See the pictures at that site.

    Independent rural stations do not show global warming. The warmists refuse to acknowledge this.

  11. OK, the background is what started as a chat at work today. Colleague (nurse, single mum) announces that she's thinking of buying a house. Plans to borrow some unspecified number of tens of thousands from parents & buy somewhere bigger for her & her daughter. Says that she doesn't actually need to but would really like to.

    So yours truly says that IMHO it'd be better to wait a bit before financially extending. We're in the NHS, the public sector cuts are coming, the economy looks fragile, that sort of thing. Not Tin Foil Hat but pitching it as cautious.

    At this point the conversation moves up a couple of gears & she announces that I really know nothing about this because "house prices are set to rocket in the next two years", a view broadly supported by the couple of folk listening in. Not that any evidence is actually provided to back up this view. Anyhow, it all gets a bit heated...

    So I take out my diary & enter a note for two years hence, reminding myself that I'll check back with her on 24th May 2012.

    And putting a tenner on a minimum 20% house price fall by then.

    So.....do you reckon my money's safe?

    You know what you should do? You're probably going to win this bet, so go and hedge it by buying a place in Middlesbrough.

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