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  1. I think there must be quite a lot there as it still has anomalously high sales of Irn Bru (really). I doubt many Mars Bars are consumed there either without coming into contact with batter first.

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    Mark Steel does a moderately amusing line in standard issue left-wing rants but like Jeremy Hardy they seem wilfully blind to the fascist and intolerant tendencies of their own side of the political spectrum. Interestingly on the subject of Corby if he did some research he will see that the last government moved public sector jobs from Corby because it wasn't ethnically diverse enough.

    Another interesting point on Corby is that it's openly acknowledged that Scots moved there because of a lack of work where they came from but when anyone suggests people relocating to the where the work is, nowadays, it can't be countenanced. However, I do concede that the idea of everyone effectively relocating to the South East is neither sensible or practical and the jobs environment presently is very difficult.

    These arguments are also a bit stuck in the past and, for some reason, heavy industry workers get special treatment. The attitude appears to be 'the place we worked in our town became obsolete or uneconomic, build us somewhere similar to work or we won't do owt'. No one would have any truck with the idea of building new electrical stores, no-one wants, for former Comet employees to work in and until we do they are just going to go on the dole and make no effort to either re-train or find alternative employment.

    It would have been viable before Labour flooded the SE with economic migrants.

    IMO Labour have no incentive to do anything about deprived areas, because if they do, they will just end up losing seats.

    Simple as that

    :)

  2. What does this actually MEAN(?).

    It means that, largely due to improvements in transport and communications we now have a global economy.

    As a result it is almost impossible to ignore globalisation.

    The left wing alternative, which I suppose would be trade barriers, or a National Socialist Festung Europa

    is unlikely to work, unless of course we start machine gunning economic migrants.

    Gets really boring if everything has to be explained in minute detail.

    :)

  3. Are you posting this from Chile or something?

    In the UK we are under a soft (but getting harder) corporate fascism and have been for 40 years. Socialism hasn't been a political force here for decades, pay attention.

    You might have noticed a lack of nationalised industries, state ownership of important utilities etc etc

    This is so far from reality it is not worth my time responding

    beyond saying it's not worth my time

    :blink:

  4. People in these areas lost their jobs as a result of global competition

    but Labour told them it was a deliberate Tory policy to punish the working classes

    so these people sat tight and waited for the next Labour government to come along and rescue them.

    Of course when Labour eventually got voted back in, the trap these people are in got even bigger.

    The moral of the story is, if you sit around and wait for the government to come and save you, you will wait forever.

    If you want a better life you have got to take responsibility for your own destiny and do something about it.

    Existing on benefits in a post industrial wasteland waiting for Left wing politicians to transform your life

    is like waiting for Santa Claus to drop down your chimney.

    Tories Bad, Labour Good

    Baa, baa, baa

    :blink:

  5. To be fair, Corby recovered which Mark Steel refers to in his article. The Tories created an Enterprise Zone there.

    However the point is that recessions occur due to economic circumstances beyond the average persons control. Not them suddenly deciding to become feckless.

    The Great Depression was seen as a tragedy, now "the right" try and portray it as a lifestyle choice, to side step the total and utter failure of their supply side reforms and globalist policies.

    It's pretty hard not to be globalist

    when we live on a globe.

    And I'm not convinced that adopting 'Flat Earth Policies' will actually change the reality of the situation.

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  6. I live on the borders of leafy Cheshire, not far from Stoke-on-Trent

    I go into Stoke to get PC components.

    When Labour got back in power SOT was a sh*thole

    and guess what - after 13 Labour boom years it was an even bigger sh*thole.

    If you transported the entire population of SOT to Gaza, you would improve their living conditions.

    The people of SOT would vote in Adolf Hitlers corpse if you pinned a Labour rosette to it, because they know that the Tories are evil bastards who will keep them in poverty because they hate ordinary people. They know this because this has been drummed into their tiny brains for decades and the process is still going on.

    So who represents this solid Labour working class constituency?

    The son of a redundant pottery worker who toils day and night to improve the lot of the people?

    Err........

    Tristram Hunt, Cambridge educated, son of a Labour Party Apparatchik who himself was elevated to the peerage by Tony Blair.

    At the end of the day, people get the Governments and lives they deserve.

    :blink:

  7. What should have been done is

    all the unemployed in the old industrial areas should have been offered housing in the SE

    instead of importing millions of migrant workers

    this of course would have cost Labour many seats as constituencies were merged due to falling populations.

    At the end of the day Labour needs these areas of deprivation in order for them to gain power

    so the chances of Labour doing anything about them is Zero.

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  8. Cambo's not concerned about press freedom - the UK govt has always been able to D-notice anything it doesn't like the smell of - he just doesn't want to upset the Tory cheering section of it. Given his manifest unpopularity and class-bound awkwardness the Murdochs and Barclays are about the only shot he's got of getting back to No. 10.

    I really don't like the guy or the coalition government because they are just fiddling while Rome burns

    However, most politicians have an eye on history and Cameron would probably prefer to fade into obscurity than go down as the Prime Minister who ended hundreds of years of freedom of the press.

    Of course Labour and the Liberals are all for it as you would expect.

    As to the Government's economic policy, they are doing all they possibly can without actually addressing the fundamental issues

    but no one else would do any more or any different.

    The best we can hope for is decades of stagnation and falling living standards

    the worst is complete economic and social collapse

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  9. More garbage.

    Clearly if you have built an economy on people spending money they haven't got

    at some point the whole house of cards is going to collapse.

    The idea that Government's should now run up even more debt in order to reflate a collapsing debt bubble is ludicrous.

    There are only two choices - massive pain now and probably for the next 10-20 years

    Or - another 5-10 years of fantasy left wing debt fuelled stagnation followed by complete economic and social collapse, including, sadly, national conflicts / revolutions / military coups / civil wars / ethnic cleansing and concentration camps.

    The choice is yours.

    We have been here before and there is absolutely nothing to stop it happening again.

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  10. You talk as if Labour have got away with it.

    I think it's them who are going to face the biggest problems after their landslide victory* at the next election.

    (* I am not a Labour supporter just a realist)

    This is why Cameron is so concerned about state control of the press.

    The next Labour government will completely destroy our economy and society

    and in the process we will come as close as we have ever come to a police state IMO.

    The left already have a stranglehold on most of our institutions, including the judiciary,

    once the free press is gone there is not much left to stand in their way

    the BBC are impartial don't ya know - provided you are slightly to the left of Karl Marx.

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  11. No- the work ethic was simply overwritten by greed is good. Ironically the only people we now expect to have a work ethic are the poor- we all accept without question that the rich are motivated purely by personal greed.

    This is why a man paid a basic salary of a million pounds a year can demand a bonus in order to 'motivate' him- the notion that he might feel any moral obligation to actually earn that first million pounds is regarded as being so hopelessly naive as to be laughable.

    Hence we have the moral absurdity of demanding a level of ethical behaviour from the least respected members of our society that we would not dream of expecting from those we respect most.

    TBH I don't really blame people for not working when they can live better on benefits.

    And although I found the situation very annoying and demotivating, I blame the system and the people who set it up and really benefit from it, not those unknowingly trapped by it.

    We must be the first society in history that actually pays millions of young, able bodied people to do nothing, as far as I am aware even 100% Socialist states expect everyone who can work to do so.

    This is what annoys me when people defend the welfare state, because it is indefensible and those trapped in empty, pointless lives by it are just used as human shields by the people who control the system and in effect live off their misery.

    Similarly, blaming bankers for the inevitable economic and social collapse is simplistic in the extreme and completely misses the reality of what has happened over the last 20-30 years.

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  12. We've looked at Microhomes before on HPC, so good to see George Clarke look at them in his new series.

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    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/george-clarkes-amazing-spaces/4od#3444752

    The solutions are not cheap however. Nearly £7-9k to fit out a shipping container, Nearly £20k to kit out a canal boat, and over £35k to update a static caravan.

    Maybe new builds/slave boxes are not so bad value after all!

    And of course there are still the usual problems with over priced land and getting planning consent (though temporary buildings consent might be a way to go.

    Watched the entire series and found it quite interesting

    however, the cost of these projects ended up negating the point to some extent

    if you spend silly amounts of money you can achieve anything

    Perhaps the series should have been called 'how to get an incredible small space for the cost of a perfectly acceptable large space'.

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  13. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20561444

    So jobs lost, pay freeze and the bill still goes up.

    But then we have increments, it would appear that this was deliberately left so the unions wouldn't call massive strike action, they can make all the noise they like about pay freezes to keep up the illusion that this is happening when in reality each year everyone gets a nice pay increase.

    My guess is that when it became obvious that Labour might lose the election

    10's of thousands of extra posts were created that were never filled

    you can then remove these posts (public sector job cuts) and increase the grades of those remaining while showing a nominal saving in wages

    this results in jobs (posts) being cut while at the same time peoples real wages rise (despite pay freeze)

    Simples

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  14. Basically it doesn't matter what most ordinary people save or pay into a pension

    the bastards are going to steal every penny you have, one way or another

    so the best thing is to ensure you are poor, then they have to give you everything for free.

    And if we end up in the situation where they let you freeze or starve then all bets are off anyway

    because the whole thing will have gone completely Mad Max well before this point.

    :blink:

  15. As I said I was born in 1961 and my wife in 1962 - so technically 'boomers'

    When my wife started paying NI aged 16 she had to pay full stamp and was promised a pension at age 60

    she is now looking at 68 and this will no doubt rise to 70 before we (hopefully) get to that age.

    We had to endure bread queues, power cuts and constant strikes and had to find work in the last Labour recession.

    We then took Thatchers medicine and the country recovered slightly

    but now my daughter has been hit with 9k tuition fees so has not gone to Uni this year.

    We were very lucky as she secured a rare as hen's teeth position as a trainee accountant with a blue chip company.

    The people who's kids got free university education were the fortunate ones IMO

    which again challenges the lucky 'boomer' stereotype.

    As I said, personally I think the years in the definition are way out.

    :blink:

  16. It would be interesting to do a public poll of how many people trust the government.

    Then do a similar one on how many people pay into pensions. The results could be quite interesting.

    Speaking as a boomer ;)

    I packed in work because I was sick of paying for single mothers living the life of Riley on my taxes.

    You could make an argument that if the younger generation worked as hard as the older generation did

    there would be plenty of money to pay for pensions.

    Personally I think the welfare state destroyed the work ethic in our society and removed the incentive for many people to better themselves

    in fact the welfare state penalises most people if they attempt to better themselves.

    A bit off topic, but it is just another way of looking at how we got where we are now.

    Either way it is clear that there is no painless way out of the situation

    so it is really now just a question of who pays

    and the answer is probably all of us.

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  17. Doesn't sound like a lot of boomers I know. There may be a significant number of pensioners who are close to the breadline, but there are also a significant number who are doing very nicely, if less nicely than they were a few years ago.

    Inflation as a tax is quite fair. it taxes the people with the most savings. These are the people who have been around the longest and have benefited most from the government running up the debt.

    Anyway, the debt has to be paid down. The debt will not be paid down by either people with no money or by loading up people with more debt. It will be paid down by people who have money.

    The government did not level with the people. It spent loads of money and kept taxes low. People kept voting for the party that would spend the most and tax the least. Doesn't take a genius to figure out where that's going to end up.

    Just as a matter of interest, I was born in 1961, so does that make me a 'boomer' ?

    I think I am probably on the boundary between guilty and victim

    :blink:

  18. Doesn't sound like a lot of boomers I know. There may be a significant number of pensioners who are close to the breadline, but there are also a significant number who are doing very nicely, if less nicely than they were a few years ago.

    Inflation as a tax is quite fair. it taxes the people with the most savings. These are the people who have been around the longest and have benefited most from the government running up the debt.

    Anyway, the debt has to be paid down. The debt will not be paid down by either people with no money or by loading up people with more debt. It will be paid down by people who have money.

    The government did not level with the people. It spent loads of money and kept taxes low. People kept voting for the party that would spend the most and tax the least. Doesn't take a genius to figure out where that's going to end up.

    Don't necessarily disagree, the point I was making is that it is unfair to blame the people who are now being robbed.

    They were lied to the same way we are being lied to now.

    If people who worked for 30-40 years are the cause of our problems

    what share of the blame should entire generations of families who have never worked in their lives take?

    :blink:

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