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  1. 12 minutes ago, anonguest said:

    Why is it pants?  Given that the media here are quick to demonise/blame Russia on just about anything these days you would think we'd be hearing about such horror stories?  But, unless I missed it, the first I have heard such is from you.

    It was in most papers, maybe not a huge story as people didn't find it that surprising from a country that regularly kills dissidents at home and abroad. 

  2. 15 hours ago, anonguest said:

    Why is that IF anyone dares to question the official narrative, in the even the slightest way, people such as yourself automatically assume they must be anti-vax.  IF you have followed any of my posts to any reasonable length then you will know that I have had both my jabs thank you very much.

    I'd still like to see at least one reputable newspaper/media report referring to these grotesque stories (e.g. doctors 'falling' out of windows, etc). As for doctors suddenly being out of a job for reporting true figures.....how is that much different from, say, the treatment and de facto censorship of reputable doctors/scientists in the West who have made even the slightest criticisms of Covid policies/vaccines/etc. ?

    I also said I don't doubt that the Russian official figures may be off the mark BUT, unlike China, at least they report figures that reflect and acknowledge a problem.

    Apologies for lumping you in with the antivaxers, the comedy from the antivaxers has worn thin and I only skim read this thread now, but your point about Russia is still pants.

    The reality of Covids impact on Russia was revealed by Russia's own mortality statistics which indicated a hugely higher impact than the claimed figures. No doubt they will learn from this "error". 

    The stories about doctors falling out of windows were not denied by the Russian authorities, just put down to  a series of unfortunate accidents. Believe that if you wish.  

  3. 34 minutes ago, FallingAwake said:

    URGENT: Covid vaccines will keep you from acquiring full immunity EVEN IF YOU ARE INFECTED AND RECOVER

    Former New York Times journalist, Alex Berenson.

    "Don’t take it from me, I don’t even get to tweet anymore.

    Take it from a little place I call the British government. Which admitted today, in its newest vaccine surveillance report, that:

    “N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” (Page 23)"

    Oh dear. Not good.

    Hardly surprising as post infection antibody levels tend to reflect the seriousness of the infection. 

    Taking your point to the extreme, do you think a 100% effective vaccine would be a bad thing as you wouldn't produce any antibodies.  

  4. 5 hours ago, Dr Doom said:

    Is it possible she meant the other way around ? Those pesky government statistics seem to suggest the exact opposite. 


    No she has it the right way round.

    Maybe you could try getting your information from sources like the ONS rather than  Joe Rogan🤣😅😁 

    NB His guest was parroting anti vax BS based on what I assume is a deliberate miscommunication of quite simple figures  You can see the data here, I assume you will be able to spot why that report was the usual misleading BS.   

    COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report - week 38 (publishing.service.gov.uk)





  5. 13 hours ago, anonguest said:

    At least they admit to a problem and people dying, etc. Unlike the Chinese figures. they may not be as accurate as they need be but at least give some sense of what is happening.

    Really? I don't recall that. But please provide a link to affirm that claim. Happy to be corrected.

    They were, as far as I recall from news reports, acknowledging the virus, the dangers and deaths. Data was coming out of Russia to allow the various foreign based data publishing websites to present charts/figures.

    You might be thinking of North Korea or such like.

    You could make the same claim to almost any country, including the UK.  There are still those disputing how many true Covid cases we actually have had here.  So either it is a case of under-reporting true cases or over-reporting.

    They are a fiction, not even vaguely consistent with Russia's own overall mortality statistics. Oh and doctors who raised concerns about the accuracy of the government stats started accidentally falling out of windows, a pretty effective way of discouraging whistle blowers.  

    What is it about antivaxxers that makes them (you) so gullible to the figures produced by thuggish regimes. I recall sailor boy going on about how wonderfully well things were going in Belarus, ignoring that doctors who reported Covid deaths quickly found themselves looking for alternative employment.     


  6. 1 hour ago, FallingAwake said:

    It may stop you from dying*. That's about it.

    * Disclaimer: You might die from the vaccine.

    80% reduction in the chance of hospitalisation

    90% reduction in the chance of dying

    Sounds pretty good to me.

    2 hours ago, anonguest said:

    Situation in Russia is interesting.

    Their daily case numbers have just, in past few days, exceeded the previous high in daily cases - seen at the very end of Dec 2020.

    BUT the daily death rate is now nearly twice as high as  it was back then during that previous case rate peak.  Moreover, back then, they had de facto vaxxed nobody (less than 0.5%)

    You believe the Russian figures? Even the Russian's regard them as a joke, in the early days they were denying anyone was dying when the hospitals were full with queues of ambulances outside full of the overflow patients. 

    ‘You Can’t Trust Anyone’: Russia’s Hidden Covid Toll Is an Open Secret - The New York Times (nytimes.com)


  7. 18 minutes ago, dances with sheeple said:

    Sure, but they said all that before we voted to leave as well. Your idea of what "reality" is seems slightly skewed, we have left, the EU backed polls are chip paper.

    My reality is doing fine, Brexit has turned out pretty much as I expected/predicted from the start.

    However I agree there is no going back. Oddly it is Leavers that now seem obsessed with the EU.  

  8. 10 minutes ago, dances with sheeple said:

    What, he ain`t going to be elected again? The chances of the rest of Europe being open if we lockdown is slim with travel and nightclubs etc. getting back to full swing don`t you think, or are they magically protected because they didn`t vote for Brexit? LOL. (probably more than half of Europe would vote to break up the EU if given the chance though?)


    LOL I take it you get your information from dedicated reading of the Daily Express. Reality is somewhat different.





    NB Today's Daily Mail published their own poll of how popular Brexit is. Embarrassingly only 36% would vote to leave if their was another vote tomorrow.

    The poll was buried a long way down in their website and now seems to have disappeared.   


  9. 44 minutes ago, scottbeard said:

    This is a very odd thing in my view to protest over.

    As @Bruce Banner says, if there is no compulsion (direct or indirect via vaccine passports) then the vaccine simply isn't worth protesting over at all, let alone the fine print of the Pfizer contract.  If you don't trust the vaccine, simply don't have it.   Why leave your armchair to protest about it?  It's only the compulsion that is protest-worthy.

    The fact is the vaccine companies saw a chance to negotiate a waiver and took it.  Wouldn't you?  Governments couldn't say no or they wouldn't have had a vaccine at all.  Seems good risk management by the vaccine companies to me.  The vaccines were tested in trials with tens of thousands of people, and that all seemed good enough to me.

    Agreeing a liability waiver is pretty standard practice for vaccines.

    Governments have a choice of accepting the risk or leaving it with the manufacturer. If they choose the latter the manufacturer just increases the price to cover the cost of passing the risk onto an insurer plus a mark up. 

    As in many other areas the government chooses to self insure to save money. 



  10. On 17/10/2021 at 15:16, markyh said:

    You really have to have a screw loose to Short Tesla, VW would be a better bet! , I mean just look at me, five figure Tesla share holder, with means , dropping nearly £110k on 2 cars within 2 months.   

    I sold most of my Tesla shares when they reached $660 as I thought that price already had Tesla becoming the No 1 car manufacturer baked in and that going up rom there was a bet on FSD becoming a reality.

    I reckoned this was a very long shot but the latest release is making me think they might actually get there. In the video below, at times the car is driving as if operated by a human used to driving in the area. Still some way to go but the AI is for the first time showing signs of intelligence reacting to its surroundings and where sensible bending the rules the same way a human driver would. If they do pull it off the sky's the limit for the shares.         


  11. 21 minutes ago, scottbeard said:

    Once again it is YOU who miss the point.  

    Pensions ALREADY ACCRUED is money that has in effect been spent in the PAST to pay for the services of all of those public sector people.

    Unlike future expenditure, which could be scaled down or cancelled, these are pension promises already made.

    Its like a mortgage - yes the repayments might be made in the future but the moment you take out the loan the whole debt is yours to pay due to a PAST purchase.

    But you won’t listen this time either I’m sure… 🙄

    Is anyone debating that?

    Pensions are deferred pay, the liabilities are accrued day by day throughout an employees career. It was the  governments choice to pay pensions out of current spending rather than set money aside.   

    Saying a liability that is predicted to peak at below 2% of GDP is unaffordable is clearly untrue.    

    NB The median public sector pension is around £8,000




  12. 18 minutes ago, spyguy said:

    You have to be very very careful - 

    You do but there are also factors that are likely to decrease the liabilities. 

    The rise in life expectancy since 2010 has been less than was expected/planned for and even before Covid knocked it back appeared to be petering out.  

    We may be coming out of the ZIRP that and a bit of inflation will soon make the figures look better, as investment returns rise and CPI linking devalues pensions already in payment.    

  13. 1 hour ago, TheCountOfNowhere said:

    I was saying to Someone on Saturday that this is why the UK will collapse, these pensions are unfair and unpayable

    Just DM nonsense, same story is dragged up ever few years. 

    Projected payments are estimated to reach a peak of 1.9 per cent of GDP between 2018-19 and 2033-34 then fall to 1.7 per cent by 2059-60. This compares with a rise from around 1.5 per cent to 1.7 per cent over the last decade. The cost of public service pensions - National Audit Office (NAO) Report

    As for unfair that sounds a bit whiney, it's just part of the pay for the job.  

    If it was such a great deal why didn't you get a public sector job. I went the other way because the pay, even allowing for the pension was so shit. 15 years later now earning 3 times what I would have if I had stayed in the civil service.   


  14. 5 hours ago, reddog said:

    If more land is used to grow crops for ethanol, won't that jack up the price of food?  Which could in turn lead to political instability in the poorest parts of the world?  (I read something about American bio ethanol and food inflation).


    No idea if it is better or worse, but substitutes are often worse, may we will have to switch to super unleaded to get the same performance, these effectively jacking up the price of fuel even more!

    The move to Biofuels is at best pointless and probably harmful.

    It was driven by a combination of lobbying from big oil (part of their distraction/delay tactics) and farmers lobbying for Biofuel subsidies.   

  15. 7 hours ago, Pmax2020 said:

    My EV is on the chopping block. I’m changing company shortly and I think I’ll go hybrid next.

    What do you have? The VW ID4 looks pretty cool but competition for the rapid charging points in Scotland has reached tipping point. In the last 12 months it seems every tariff-free charging point has a couple of Tesla’s queued up waiting to use them!! It’s a nightmare. 

    Might go for one of the hybrids that ticks the decent BIK boxes even though in practice they aren’t really economic. 530e looks nice but I’ve gotten used to driving the free electric car for over a year now…

    I have had a Tesla Model S for 3 yrs now and have had to queue once for about 10mins. Mind you I have never used a non Tesla charger, you would have to be a real tightwad to want to queue up and go through the faff of using one for a few quids worth of free electricity.

    If you like most people rarely travel more than 200 miles in a day any modern EV should be fine, no need for a hybrid and if you regularly travel long distances get a Tesla.  A hybrid  is pretty pointless as after 30m you are back to driving a petrol car, one that is less efficient than the equivalent standard model.   

    I would give the ID4 a miss. My wife swapped her Model 3 for an ID3 earlier this year as the Tesla was a bit quick for my daughter who was learning to drive, and she wanted a hatchback. Although she only occasionally drives long distances, every long journey involved lots of hassle with charger queues, broken chargers and rip of pricing. She ordered a Model Y as soon as they were available on the website.  Fortunately she bought the ID3 when VW was hugely discounting them so will probably get back what she paid for it when it is sold at around 1yr old.   


  16. 13 hours ago, Dr Doom said:

    This seems to be the stock response whenever any side effect of the vaccine comes to light. 

    The risks of serious adverse events, such as <INSERT SIDE EFFECT HERE>, are known to be very low after vaccination but far more common and more serious after a COVID-19 infection.

    What I do find a bit odd about this is we didn't hear anything about myocarditis until the vaccine rollout began. 

    Myocarditis is most commonly caused by viral infections. You not being aware of that does seem rather odd given your interest in the subject. Maybe you need to broaden your research base. 

  17. 3 hours ago, winkie said:

    The government's over the last thirty years have not looked long-term into seeing we are secure as a country for energy.....the answer is not we can buy it from abroad if we need it.;)

    It can be as long as you have a diverse supply. 

    The just commissioned Norway interconnector will supply the equivalent of a new Nuclear plant at far lower cost.

    We could have also had a 4GW of interconnectors with Iceland, unfortunately those projects were stillborn as gas prices were so low.  

    Looking on the bright side if gas prices stay at these level it will reduce consumption and greatly speed the move to net zero.  

  18. 10 hours ago, gruffydd said:

    Oh the irony of that... switch to windpower yet the great "thinkers" in our civil service and environmental movement forgot to factor in the climatic impacts of climate change... 

    So we have loads of wind capacity yet without the wind needed to plug the energy gap = inflation... 

    Oh dear. https://www.ft.com/content/d53b5843-dbe0-4724-8adf-75c66127ea80

    The article did say that renewables saved the EU 33bn Euro between June and September. I wonder how high gas prices would have gone without that alternative supply.  

  19. 11 hours ago, spacedin said:

    Surprised no-one has said anything yet. This is a fecking scandal.

    It was discussed at the time on the Covid thread.

    My wife was resource planning for her Trust and was unable to use the private health capacity given to her as it was impossible to staff both a health service running flat out and the private facilities. 

    If the government had asked they would have ben told this but the contracts were centrally negotiated and presented to the trusts as a fait accompli.  

  20. 8 hours ago, kzb said:

    52% apparently, plus another 30% from Norway pipeline which they class as very secure supply.

    Coupled with the fact this started in late summer when the weather was warm, and it has continued to be warm, I am struggling to see how it was a supply and demand issue.

    If that's the case doubling the price of gas/electricity will quickly resolve the supply issue and prices will soon be back to near normal. 

  21. 7 hours ago, Trampa501 said:

    We do produce a proportion of our own energy, whether from nuclear power plants or North Sea gas (40% of our needs, we need to import the rest), and of course a growing renewables sector. But it's not an ideal time to be reliant on electricity coming via the interconnecter from France, particularly when our current leadership feel it's politically popular to keep annoying our European neighbours.

    A new 1.4GW connector with Norway came on line today and is currently delivering 700MW.

    There was a planned 4GW interconnector to Iceland that could have supplied 24hr Geothermal electricity but it was never progressed as gas prices were so low.  That would have been very handy right now. 

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