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so it is true, a European president a Asian president a North American Alliance president and a president to rule them all.

I expect the IMF will give us a loan on the condition that we do certain things, like nationalise our assets even tho we contribute billions to the IMF

there are a few things that call for a global government, and a global response 1. terrorist threats 2. rouge states 3. global economy 4. environmental problems 5. lack of resources (food,water,energy etc.) 6. deadly global virus attack 7. alien attack I guess some of these are inevitable and so a global government is inevitable too

will the motorways be sold to the rothchilds next? http://www.infowars.com/rothschild-pitches-motorway-privatization-plan/

Where will he live when he's president of europe will they have a palace ready for him?

hmmmmmmm i wonder how much money needs to be printed to create hyper inflation? anybody know? surely more money has been created in the last 10 years of cheap credit from all the loans that everyone has taken out? where is the hyperinflation? I know that some of this will be clawed back over time by repayments and interest rates. but at the moment alot of people are paying back their loans which will be shrinking the money supply. isn't the printing of money just to keep this in balance and to stop it shrinking too much?

I bummed around europe on the eurorail thing a few years ago and i met an Italian girl who said the same thing btw Italy: GDP $1.787 trillion (2007)[1] GDP growth -5.1% (2009 est.)[2] GDP per capita $30,400 (2007)[1] GDP by sector agriculture (2%), industry (26.7%), services (71.3%) (2008 est.)[3] Inflation (CPI) 2% (2007)[1] Population below poverty line 12% (2002) Gini index 36 (2007)[4] Labour force 25.09m (2008 est.)[3] Labour force by occupation services (65.1%), industry (30.7%), agriculture (4.2%) (2008 est.)[3] Unemployment 6.6% (2009)[1] Main industries tourism, commerce, communications, machinery, iron and steel, chemicals, food processing, textiles, automobiles, home appliances, clothing, footwear, ceramics[3] Exports $566.1bn (2008)[3] Main export partners Germany 12.9%, France 11.4%, Spain 7.4%, U.S. 6.8%, UK 5.8% (2006)[3] Imports $566.8bn (2008)[3] Main import partners Germany 16.9%, France 9%, China 5.9%, Netherlands 5.5%, Belgium 4.3%, Spain 4.2% (2006)[3] Public debt 103.9% of GDP (2007)[1] UK: GDP $2,674 billion (2008 est. nom.)[1] GDP growth -0.8% or +0.2% depending on source(Q2 2009)[2] GDP per capita $43,785 (2008 est. nom.)[1] (20th) GDP by sector agriculture (1%), industry (23%), services (76%) (2008 est.) Inflation (CPI) 1.8% (July 2009) Population below poverty line 14% with household income below 60% of UK median income (2006 est.) Labour force 31 million (includes unemployed) (2007 est.) Labour force by occupation Services (81%), industry (18%) and agriculture (1%) (excludes unemployed) (2007)[citation needed] Unemployment 7.5% (Q3 2009)[3] Main industries machine tools, industrial equipment, scientific equipment, shipbuilding, aircraft, motor vehicles and parts, electronic machinery, computers, processed metals, chemical products, coal mining, oil production, paper, food processing, textiles, clothing and other consumer goods. Exports $442.2 billion (2007 est.) Main export partners USA 15%, Germany 11%, France 10%, Ireland 7%, Netherlands 6%, Belgium 6%, Spain 5%, Italy 4% (2007) Imports $621.4 billion (2007 est.) Main import partners Germany 14.2%, US 8.6%, China 7.3%, Netherlands 7.3%, France 6.9%, Belgium 4.7%, Norway 4.7%, Italy 4.2% (2007) Public debt $864 billion (2007)

there was something about this awhile back were the price of copper had gone up so much that a copper 2p was worth more than 2p. http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2006/may/12/business.uknews

Its weird how every country in the world has a public debt the norm seems to be 20-40% of GDP how can so many countries be in debt? and why do the western countries always have more debt than anyone else in the world?

try this one.. http://buttonwood.economist.com/content/gdc Edit - lets all goto Belarus its got one of the lowest public debt to GDP %s in the world, so it must be good? :/

What kind of interest is there on that debt? is it interest added per inflation? or is it some other interest rate?

+1 Humans have been making music for 35,000+ years see here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8117915.stm Why is there a need to charge for something that is just part of being human?

will they be using the fractional reserve banking system down at the IMF to bump this up to $9.9 trillion?

more power to an unelected central bank so they can control the made up money supply of nations however they wish. more crashes more power. more control.

Russia are in just as much trouble http://www.ft.com/indepth/russiafinance its happening everywhere.....

"The rouble has now lost nearly 20 per cent of its value against the US currency since August. Analysts at Barclays Capital said the best case scenario would see Russian policymakers, facing the mounting evidence of a recession, allowing a one-off depreciation of 10 per cent or more." Russia too and they have gas and oil

its an evil tax system used by the banks if you take out a loan of 100,000 you have to pay back something like 200,000 thus the banks have made 100,000 out of nothing. its also a way of taking money out of the current supply so it can be used as a break leaver on the economy. if the economy is growing too fast up the interest rates and suck up some money from the economy. if its growing too slow reduce the interest rate and dont suck up as much.

anything to do with numbers can be calculated, im sure the whole thing was planned. whos to benefit?

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I have lived through both too but all i can remember is everyone hating thatcher and john major, i remember the shows on spitting image. I'd like to see a graph of GDP growth vs Current Serving PM.

I can't believe you guys think it will be any different under the Tories LOL.

but I thought it was the central banks not politicians that controlled the direction of the economy?

I think the guy whos renting will get laid more for casual hook ups, think surfer dude, starbucks guy, bartender who has little or no responsibilities. casual sex = ok. the home owner guy will more likely attract girls who will see his home and want to settle down, rather then goto bed on the first night.

This actaully makes sense keep the economy running aslong as possible, run up a massive debt all the time building up the countrys infrastructre and massive militry power. when the shit hits the fan and the economy crashes hold tight and hope you come out on top.

hmmm, includes not all the information then?