moneyfornothing

And on cue .. Published today .. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5596423/Murders-rapes-60-unexplained-deaths-Brits-Thailand-just-two-years.html

Same as money for sex, whats different ?

There were two outcomes possible before the Brexit vote 1) A remain where economically we would continue the norm of Europe wide mild growth to stagnation for the developed economies 2) A Brexit (from all EU the major institutions and frameworks) that would cause near term economic issues but deliver mid term to long term recovery and growth due to being more agile than the EU behemoth What we will get due to the vote being close and the fact that remainers are still desperate to stall all efforts to strengthen the UKs negotiating position is a worse of all deals where neither the Brexit objectives are met nor the Economic prospects. This will then be pointed out as 'See, we told you so' Unfortunately the average voter can see through this sham - caused by lack of leadership and a political establishment that consider the electorate to be beneath contempt and 'know better' - ably supported by the London dominated media that pushes 'Project Fear'

Has anyone really watched this clip before commenting :-) .. as I said its long .. but I suspect most people have formed an opinion and nothing will change that ..

Its a bit long I know .. and the haters will be looking for holes.. no matter.. When was the last time the UK had a leader who could talk from the heart and without a teleprompter without being PC and still make sense... Some say putting everything out there without engaging the PC part of the brain is a big no-no .. I see him as an open book, he tells it like it is and no hiding under political correctness.. Most of all he truly has his countrys interests at hearrt .. when actually he could have spent the next 10 or so years in retirement and enjoying his millions .. but the establishment and popular media will have it in for him... If we wanted to make a success out of Brexit, we need someone like him .. as it is, we will just muddle through and end up in a state where somehow we will have self inflicted the worst possible outcome on ourselves.

I have stopped commenting on this thread.. the remainers should get the second vote they are crying for .. they will run into the clunking fist of the Brexiters vote (the only language they understand) .. the only downside is that they will keep asking for one no matter .. or decide that democracy should only be for remainers.. :-)

How about we make the the mum and dad contribute equally self earned after tax pounds.. let the dads match the mums earned contribution towards the childs upbringing.. if mum puts in £50 a week towards the childs costs (earned through work, not benefits), lets get the dads to match that contribution.. fair ?

Wow 245k for that .. so much for the 'altrusitic' boomers .. if only they could find a way of poisoning the tenant .. something did smell fishy..

What does that mean ?

Well done on buying a house .. However, you already paid off BTL in a lumpsum by buying at a price that is inflated due to having BTL loose in the market. The time would have been right when BTL were hesitating to buy ..

Replace 'Negotiating new Agreement' with 'Giving in to whatever the EU wants' At least that appears to be the realistic name of the task .. Have seen the Bristish govt willing to be flexible, yet to see that from the EU .. why call it a negotiation in the first place ..If we start calling it what it really is, it becomes clear that the only real option is 'no deal'

Mate .. this logic is lost on remainers .. Being like Australia or New Zealand would reduce us to paupers in their world

That gets me everytime.. thanks for saying it aloud ..!!

Bought in 2010 at the bottom of the last crash wondering I was doing the right thing, havent regretted.. yet. Bought my house at a price that reflected effectively construction cost + 20k . Paid off mortgage in 4 years, have a bit of savings and small amount in a SIPP. Prices can and do go below construction cost in a crash but being mortgage free and without massive savings that could erode in an economic crash does give me some peace of mind .. Do I care if house prices go up ? Yes, I want my children to get value for money as well.. and not be mortgage slaves.

BT?

Sorry .. you totally nailed it .. it was so obvious.. my mistake entirely

You guessed wrong ...

I am sure the landlord is an ardent 'remainer' :-)

The logic of the remainer argument is simple - A remainer racist is not a racist, come on .. A leaver has to be a racist, anything else and the remainer brain explodes ..

Haa haa .. wishful thinking .. Hard Brexit is becoming an increasing possibility .. however 'No Brexit' would require a parliamentary majority which I cannot see happening .. the default position if negotiations fail is 'Hard Brexit' come 2019. To be fair, Brexit and hard brexit was the only outcome promised if 'Leave won' - soft Brexit is a fiction invented after the vote - and is now being proved that it isnt attainable in any case

I pray the EU gives us a hard brexit .. so hard that we go out without a deal..

Has it occurred to you that the reason no one is whining about the visas is that there are so many checks and balances on issuing a visa to make sure that only someone who is productive is coming into the country whereas on the EU migration there are no such restrictions (please dont point me at some chocolate teapot provision that may in theory allow this when we know for a fact that no one with a EU passport including murderers rapists and big issue seller entrepreneurs are barred from entry)

?? How does that matter .. I assume your concern is that the additional people coming in somehow undermine your way of life .. so if there are no visas , they dont ?

And how does that compare with anyone in the EU who can bring over anyone they chose to without any fiscal requirements from day 1

And why would we be desperate ? Why wouldnt the EU get desperate .. ?