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  1. Still a number of Xantia's on the road. Must have been the first Cit, fleet buyers bought. Seemed to last a bit longer than the BX it replaced, but Peugeot had wrung out a lot of Citroen quirkiness by then.


    Always fanced a BX though, but not as weird as the model it replaced!


    Oh yes, the Citroen GS Club, a whole 1220cc of raw boxer energy....I drove one of these from Harare in Zimbabwe all the way to Lusaka Zambia, it was a very comfortable car and handled the potholes and corrugated dirt roads brilliantly.

  2. The house we bought the previous owner clearly was a bit of a non payer of bills. We've had endless letters through from people wanting money. Even had a few people turn up at the door looking for them. For a few years it died off with not much coming through then in the past couple of weeks we've had a letter through from a debt recovery agency looking for them over unpaid phone charges.

    Debt recovery agencies really don't want to look for people, they want it handed on a plate.

    Debt recovery correspondence is invariably marked ' private and confidential', and should provide a return address.

    It is actually illegal to open confidential mail.

    No point in worrying about it..just return to sender after scribbling something like 'not at this address' on the envelope.

  3. A friend just "retweeted" (I think that's the vernacular) this;

    RT @KirstieMAllsopp: Did anyone else see the bungee jumper footage on @BBCNews just now? That is exactly why I never want to bungee jump!!

    I can think of at least one more reason, can you?

    Hey Paddles,

    Did you ever get to venture out to the Med on a catamaran?

  4. This. If I think its a task I should have completed in my working hours but didn't for whatever reason then I will happily saty late to finish.

    If on the other hand I'm bailing someone else out or doing them a favour, they pay me in either time or money.

    Was on a Tesco management course at 18. You were expected to work another 20 odd hours a week on top of your contracted. When I finally sat down and worked out the hourly rate that meant I was getting, I quit.


    Perfectly put.

    I really couldn't agree more.

  5. By 'worked' I'm reading attend. Then yes, me, my contract says salary xxxxx for xxxxx hours per week will not be paid overtime, lower grades get overtime but not me and I'm only middling in terms of seniority. Time Off In Lieu is what I get, which is difficult to fit in what with having to do the work I'm paid to do plus a bit of skiving leading to the grafter illusion.

    So, one presumes that you do not know of any people that were required to sign a contract limiting their payable hours to 37.5 per week in order to secure employment.

  6. i should add add that I'm as prone to the occasional skive as the next worker, but I don't complain about late nights now and again.

    Very few people do, but that really is not the point..

    If the news reports are to be believed then TWENTY NINE BILLION pounds of unpaid overtime was worked last year in the UK.

    So, who benefits from it hey?

  7. Not the BBC one but the others. I've seen many people that moan about the hours they do actively wasting time during core hours, I think it is unreasonable when they subsequently complain about staying late to finish a task that could easily have been completed in normal business hours.

    OK, do you know of any people that were required to sign a contract of employment that specifically denied them from expecting recompense for any hours 'worked' over 37.5 hours per week?

  8. I've averaged an extra 5-10 hours a week unpaid for the last 12 years. I now earn 10 times what I earned back then. Time well invested in my opinion.

    Goodonya, seriously, well done for beating the 'system'

    5-10 hours unpaid work per week over twelve years..based on 5 hours times five days at minimum wage that is over £100,000 lost income to you.

  9. Hear hear. Work is a great place to just kind of space out. I don't think I could count the time I have to stay late to finish the work I should have been doing as unpaid overtime.

    Have you taken the time to read the news items that I provided links to in the OP?

  10. Agreed - it would be better if they did, same as it would be great if other "hidden" costs were advertised up front (such as credit card booking fees).

    However, my point is "unpaid" overtime usually isn't actually unpaid, it's just that the overall rate of pay is lower.

    I could get horrified at how often I work longer than my 35 contracted hours per week (last year: all but one week), but in reality my annual salary seems pretty fair for a year's work, so I'm happy - the distinction between core hours and overtime is irrelevant.

    You are either a Saint or a product.

    I respect you for being content with whatever it is that you have.

  11. I was asking before why anybody would offer themselves for unpaid overtime.

    You always have the option of saying no. People here in Britain need to man up.

    Thing is, the 1st time you say yes, you have unwittingly committed yourself into doing it until you opt out by going after another job.

    Truth is that people here don't have the option, they either sign up for work on the understanding that they will merrily work additional hours without pay or, probably, don't secure the job.

  12. This is the story that people tell themselves. But in reality when work is scarce do those same people get to go home early?

    In most cases no.

    So being a 'professional' in reality is often not that different from being an idiot.

    I don't actually know if I ought to to agree with you or not.

  13. Not really. I've been contracting as an engineer for almost 20 years, pretty much my whole career, all over America, Canada, UK, and Europe.

    The difference for me is that I can live without a lot material things, unlike a lot of my colleagues who prefer to be stuck in one place seemingly forever, and are sadly too hooked on the swall'y.

    Goodonya C I M,

    Likewise, I worked in many countries other than here..thank goodness.

    Nevertheless. what on earth does your post have to do with unpaid overtime in the UK?

  14. In exchange for doing a year's work, I get paid £XX,000 per annum.

    Does it really matter whether some of that is after 5pm or on a Sunday?

    In some jobs, maybe it does. But in most jobs you work when work needs to be done.

    The natural human working pattern is not 9-5, Monday to Friday. Think of a farmer - often up at 5am in the summer, but on a dark, wet winter's day might be very little to do.

    Or, if you prefer: a job advertised at £10 per hour for a 40 hour week, but in which you are actually expected to work 45 hours, is in reality not an outrageous unpaid overtime scandal, but simply a job that in actual fact pays £8.89 per hour.

    Well, why not just advertise the job as such?

  15. Well, no.

    What you are saying is that fear alone drives people to undervalue their own lives and destiny? Think about that for a minute.

    Fear, is the motivation for working? Start valuing yourselves, not your fear

    I am not actually saying anything much other than that one ought to read the news and understand that one could well be being exploited.

  16. Unpaid overtime is also a submission of weakness.

    People really need to get a grip.

    ****** them, look after your own sanity people

    Well, yes and no..**** them indeed, but isn't it the truth that many, many people put in extra hours without any reward other than the hope of keeping their jobs?

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