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  1. 1 hour ago, captainb said:

    What nitpicking? Pointing out that your "removal of western democracy" was factually incorrect.

    No universal sufferage, no direct elections under british rule or ever in Hong Kong. But yes that is what is being removed. Okay then.

     

    Regardless of fears surrounding growing chinese influence we can at least be factually correct in our statements and not make up a revised history. Thats what the communists do right?

    Okay, you are right. All you have to do now is convince the entire umbrella movement they had no purpose. Good luck!

  2. 1 hour ago, Grayphil said:

    Yeah, getting right down and breathing on it.. It does show the lack of knowledge people have regarding food safety, however the  chef there probably isn't a chef, it will probably be a model, working for a marketing company. 

    That goes w/o saying. I was commenting on the image portrayed, hence my reference to marketing. For sure that guy is a model. All the "chefs" are probably tat-festooned sweat baths (from the hours they have to work). Not the kind of image such a coompany prolly wants.

  3. 1 hour ago, captainb said:

    Hong Kong has never had a western democracy.

    The british never allowed universal suffrage or anything close to it even in the 90s- you know wanting to keep the elites including themselves in control.

     

     

    Western democracy, some would argue, is all about keeping elites in control. Please, stick to the central tennet and stop nitpicking.

    All the HKers I ever met were scared stiff of China and never so much as breathed a word of how this or that was different from living in the UK (save pop density, which they actually seemed content with).

  4. 1 hour ago, nightowl said:

    These kind of pandemics come around once ever 50 or 100 years so to organise a society with a Draconian government in preparation means the other 49/99 years in between is madness. Also how many excess deaths occur under such governments, especially in the transition stage, anyway?

     

    that's an unusual view. having trouble finding the poster who proposed it. link?

  5. Just had a chuckle at this:

    BBC's Vic Derbyshire reads out a message from a Leicester resident that goes something like:

    "I work in the food industry in Leicester, and there are a very large amount of cases there .."

    Then I google "Leicester food manufacturers" and here's the "Our Products" page from the first one I hit on:

    Samworth Brothers

    I suggest their marketing dept tweek that image. Maybe just snap a pic of a kitchen ladle they have at home and update that. Or anything. Jeepers, I'd have thought a dead rat would be better under the circumstances!

    The again, I was always uneasy about the idea that in order to be Michelin starred, you had to all-but rub the dish on your cheffy posterior, and that pic is just a reflection of that crazy notion.

  6. 2 hours ago, Riedquat said:

    There's a balance between how tolerable more cases are vs. how tolerable ordering people around like cattle is, and people ready to leap to the latter frighten me far more than the virus.

    I take a different view.

    By any measure China locked down harder than we ever did. The consequence: the authorities are seen as competent.

    Now we find ourselves with Leicester - ie the reimposition of draconian controls.

    This, taken together with the undeniable failures of Western democracy to handle this common enemy, despite supposedly being an advanced society, has emboldened China and allowed them to end Western demoicracy in Hong Kong. This is how authoritarianism comes about, not by the people accepting some temporary suspensions of their enjoyment.

  7. 1 hour ago, Arpeggio said:

     They could continue to highlight elite pedos / communism. Why not globalist Hillary Clinton admitting proxy funding for ISIS while they're at it? By comparing those to what they think Cummings did / didn't do, providing people actually know what the difference is, then is the really so bad? who knows.

    I'm wondering whether you have thought through the consequences.

    I voted for Brexit; taking our own route, standing on our own: that's a bold move - some might say arrogant - that chimes with our reputation and history. daring-do and all that. It's why other countries listen to our music, watch our TV, support our footie clubs, and then wear our fashion, eat our food, drive our cars, visit our capital, start businesses here, and thus, hold sterling and invest in Treasuries. That supports sterling and makes us all relatively rich.

    But a circumstance exits that makes outsiders question whether our certainty is merely lack of insight, our heroics simply stupidity and our rhetoric just ********. That circumstance exits when our obstacles or adversaries are indifferent to all of those apparent merits. And this virus is certainly such an adversary.

    We can't scare it away by grandstanding speeches about fighting on beeches.

    All there is are the numbers, and we can spin those only so far. And so we sit in second place below the USA on death toll ... while the world wonders what the hell they ever admired about us. Why they listen to our music. Why they follow our footie clubs, watch our TV, and then  wear our fashion, eat our food, drive our cars, start businesses here, support sterling, and keep we Brits in the lap of luxury.

    They saw the same thing during the Financial Crisis, but they had no way to measure themselves against us. They just thought it looked bad. Those thoughts are giving way to certainty. A certainty that we are an anachronism. That the future lies elsewhere.

    And that certainty will be complete if we have a bad second wave.  And Cummings has made that so much more likely.

  8. 1 hour ago, crumblingcon said:

     

    I normally listen to news radio station most days, but in the last 2 months I have it off for nearly 24 hours,

    God, you must be exhausted. Forget lockdown. That's bonk-down! No wonder you haven't been following the news. Just to fill you in, despite the most severe restrictions on public movement for like, well, ever, 37K people have been killed here by a transmissible disease. So, as you assumed, mostly a lot of hot air.

     

  9. 2 hours ago, FANG said:

    Sorry guys but he is not going anywhere. Irrespective of what he has done.

    Its better to have him in government than not in it. 

     

     

     

    Big fan of Cummings, but it is what it is: he's a back-room boy. He ponders, he weighs, he strategizes, he sloganizes.

    The problem he has is that he delivered Brexit almost single-handely, and that went to his head. Now he thinks he can bluff and extemporize like a political frontman, and that he is most definitely not.

    He's basically shown he is as flawed and vulnerable as the rest of us, and that has shaken everyones confidence in him.

    This interview was extremely poorly judged. So was the journey to Durham. Maybe therefore Brexit was.

    He's undermining every aspect of government with every move he now makes.

    He's the story and a pretty sorry one. Whether he goes or not is hardly the point.

     

  10. 1 hour ago, Confusion of VIs said:

    Unless his medics have very badly screwed up he would have been taken to hospital as soon as his Oxygen levels started to drop, at that stage a standard oxygen mask would be used.

    I didn't say it is a good thing,..

    But you are saying he would need to be admitted to hospital for simple oxygen therapy, despite the consequent PR disaster?

  11. 1 hour ago, Confusion of VIs said:

    My wife says that as a matter of routine he will be put on oxygen, normal mask not a ventilator, as he wouldn't have been taken to hospital unless his Oxygen saturation had dropped. Very unlikely his condition would have deteriorated so quickly that he immediately needed a ventilator.

     

     

    This is an utter PR disaster. Johnson knows it. Cummings knows it. Hancock knows it. Everyone knows it.

    Surely, you know it.

    If it meant avoiding this cluster f***,  No.10 would buy a job-lot of these:

    Oxygen cylinder

    Maybe they already have a stock of these:

    Medical-Oxygen_tn.jpg

    Why not, after all?

    I simply don't buy this idea that he has to be admitted for simple oxygen therapy. CPAP apparatus is available retail for people who suffer from sleep apnea. Here's a face mask:

    41ydLrVxkML._SY355_.jpg

    Just inject oxygen into that. Get a discreet expert to help.

    If on the other hand he needed the full ICU package, that would be quite a different matter and would indeed require a trip to hospital.

  12. 1 hour ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

    Because the infections were initially limited to smaller numbers of travellers who were fit and healthy and who passed it on to similar healthy people initially. Also people without symptoms and likely a low viral load are less likely to pass it on . Seriously how often do working people actually visit their vulnerable relatives?  I bet it is less than most claim.

    If fatalities are actually very low, then may be we are only experiencing a visible peak now. Doesn't mean it will go much higher. Finally how many vulnerable people died earlier and just had the death certificate signed off for something else?

    Look, anything is possible, but the probabilities of what you are describing, at a gut level, just don't compute. Take for instance the care home with 90 residents who have just experienced 13 deaths in the past week and have two staff displaying symptoms. Sure, sars-cov2 might not be the culprit - after all, nobody has been tested - but I think in all likelihood it is. Why now? Why no earlier?

    I guess what we can both agree on is that more testing is needed, of all kinds.

    I agree that many aspects are puzzling. My suspicion is there is a vector we have not envisaged (not 5G tho! ?).

  13. 58 minutes ago, Grayphil said:

    No its strange, half of them believe its a hoax, and the other half that it's caused by 5G, but as soon as you point out the obvious arguments against their positions the administrators take the post down. 

    Its like a self affirming club, where no one is allowed to post MSM links or common sense. It does explain why people think they are right in burning Down 5 G masts

    Same lot who think you can catch a computer virus.

    There is something that can be gleaned however from all this: knowledge gets you absolutely nowhere in modern society. As Frank Skinner once quipped on Room101, "You're down the pub having a good discussion, and along comes somebody who actually knows what they are talking about, and ruins the whole thing. Is there anything worse?"

  14. 1 hour ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

    What evidence proves it hopeless?

    Not this: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/what-coronavirus-mild-symptoms-are-fever-2020-3

    or this: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8187201/Only-THREE-Englands-3-302-coronavirus-deaths-far-aged-20.html

    Just saying it is quite likely a much larger pecentage of the population have had the infection than currently are realised, in which case it will burn out quite fast/

    I think people are now in the phase of pretending social distancing is having more effect than it is.

    The evidence?

    Well, you postulate everyone should have had it by now, right?

    Yet some of the weakest souls on the planet are clearly only just dying from it.

    How have they, with their feeble immune systems, managed to evade it so successfully for all this time?

  15. 3 hours ago, prozac said:

    Coronavirus breakthrough as scientists discover a drug used to treat HEAD LICE can kill COVID-19 cells

    • Researchers at Monash University found Ivermectin can kills COVID-19 cells
    • The anti-parasite drug killed off the cells within two days and is widely available
    • Scientists are moving towards human trials but expect it to be at least a month
    • Ivermectin has also been found to work against HIV, influenza and Zika virus 
    • --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    LOL sounds like a joke,

    One of the best Cures for Cornovirus is to give me millions of pounds, i have no clinical data to prove it, but who needs evidence

    Questions:

    1. What is a covid-19 "cell"?

    2. How do you "kill" something that is not alive?

    3. If a covid-19 cell is a cell infected with covid-19, the story makes sense. Trouble is, an infected cell will, to ivermectin, surely  look no different to an uninfected cell. And both host cells would necessarily belong to a human, and presumably be doing some kind of important work. So "killing" them sounds kinda counterproductive. And if all we wanna do is kill cells, hell, why not just go straight to incineration?

  16. 1 hour ago, TheCountOfNowhere said:

    Dont worry the bankers will save us with low interest rates 

    Yep, there are calls for all sorts of bailouts. Personally I think it would be a nice gesture if the dead were buried with mobile phones so, when the dust is settled, they can give the BoE a bell and ask to be "made whole" again. Surely, nothing too tricky for a central banker?

    And do we all, at some point, get to sue China? Surely a neglicence aspect here considering they knew all about what could go wrong following SARS? Deep pockets the Chinese ...

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