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  1. It seems that way to me, a bit Japanese style, with a steady decline over 20 years, so no one takes a big hit in a short space of time. Trouble is I will be 82 by then, if I live that long, so not much enthusiasm for DIY or gardening. Probably in a home, but not mine, regrettably going to have to bite the bullet in the next 18 months or so regardless of price.

    No one knows as no one has a crystal ball.

    There are many different people and many different circumstances that people find themselves in and circumstances that change for better/worse for everyone concerned.

    At present you have decided to stay out of the market , but one day you will be entering that market and will have an affect on it . How many people like yourself have the cash to buy outright and prop the market up ? Who knows.

  2. ...they may have a better chance but in itself doesn't guarantee success ....if you have a viable business plan that may open up credit lines from backers...including banks... :rolleyes:

    We all know nothing is guaranteed and I never said it was for those who start out in business with money backing them . However the better chance is a much better chance .

    " if you have a viable business plan that may open up credit lines from backers ...including banks.... "

    If you have money to start off you do not need credit lines from banks or other backers who will want interest and can pull the plug at any time . You also do not need to worrie about the small things in life, i.e. Feeding you and yours , housing them and clothing them.

  3. For most people, they have got what they have through working hard, taking thought through calculated risks, most have sacrificed many of lifes little luxuries...they have a belief a passion and a goal....they build up a network of customers through providing service, reliability and value.....nobody ever has constant success in their lives, nobody never makes mistakes, they only learn from the mistakes they make and bounce back again...every hurdle is a discovery a challenge something to look forward to and overcome...once achieved satisfaction and independence is guaranteed.......anyone can give many reasons and excuses why they or this or that can't be done....for some people that is the story of their life, in that case nothing is done or will be done......whether you believe you can or whether you believe you can't you are absolutely right. ;)

    For every business the most important thing is CASH FLOW . For every person who needs a roof and food the most important thing is CASH FLOW. When starting any business however you set about it, what ever service you give , what ever contacts you have . If you fail on CASH FLOW the business will go under . Those that have money backing them when they start will have a much better chance of success what ever service they deleiver.

  4. ...what was Richard Branson's qualification...?....what was Steve Job's qualification...?...what was Bill Gate's qualification....get it...?...... :rolleyes:

    Not sure about the other two , but Richard Branson's qualification was money from family to set him off at the start .

    Many people who have made it in big in business or even just made it have had money to start off and or a saftey net when they set up.

    When Anita Roddick started the Body Shop her husband was paying the mortgage , bills and food. Very different from someone who has to pay those giving up a steady job and risking a business from scratch.

  5. No, that was a rumour started by a workmate of mine, it got out of control as supermarkets shelves were cleared with the Government denying such a shortage. Articulated Lorries came over from Ireland selling sugar from the back of the vehicles double the price earning massive profits. After a couple of weeks it all died down and he then spread a rumour of a salt shortage but it never took off. I remember a woman in the local press proudly boasting about her store of 5 hundred weight stored in her cellar. :lol:

    I remember going to the local co-op and you were only allowed to buy 2lb of sugar .

    Funny our head master did not blame your workmate he said it was a woman out shopping telling a friend she bumped into who started it.

  6. http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

    Has this been posted before?

    Have a read of some of the real life stories people have posted on this website, things look much worse in America than here but we can't be far behind them.

    There is a bigger gap in America between the haves and have nots.

    In most films that we get from hollywood they are nearly always high profil Doctors , lawyers living in massive houses or the penthouse apartment . The reality for many is very different. The loss of a job can send someone living a very good middle class life to the streets very quickely .

    Have seen documentries time and again of the poverty and lack of hope. Homeless familys putting their kids with relatives and living on the streets and in tent citys is common.

    Are we going the same way ? Who knows.

  7. Riots on the street? Don't make me laugh. I voted in the last referrendum in 1975. Then we had 25% inflation, had just had the 3 day week, power cuts,miners strikes,falling living standards, a Lib/Lab coalition government that nobody had voted for and loads of people blaming Europe. Sound familiar? What happened next? The politicians who had been slagging of Europe as the cause of all the problems suddenly discovered that Europe wasn't so bad after all and told the proles to vopte in favour of staying in which they immediately obeyed without any riots on the streets. Brits don't do riots on the streets unless it's for a new pair of trainers or the wrong person gets voted off Strictly.

    I remember those times I was 12 . You forgot the oil crisis , oh and shortages the dockers were always on strike and there was a sugar shortage.

    Comparing to now , they seem like long ago dark days but if I think about it we were in a much better position then to now . Why do I think that way ? Because unemployment was only just over 1 million and there was not the personnel debt mountain that is a way of life now. Back then inflation that was matched by wage inflation destroyed peoples debt's. Today with no wage inflation but high cost inflation peoples LARGE debts are getting harder to service not eaiser.

  8. Exactly. Great stuff after the war. Utter tossers from 90s on.

    At least most older pensioners have got their pension "back" in that they had a couple of decades of retirement. More than they paid in I'm sure, but I don't begrudge it too much.

    What's hilarious is that the boomers have misjudged this badly (like they even thought about it!). Pensions are going to be dire for the whole of their retirement. Very amusing.

    Be better than yours still won't they lol.

  9. There's no need to shout, especially considering my post didn't blame any pensioners. And a pension is a variant of social security, they're both money paid out by the state.

    Look, they invented computers in the 50's to do people's work. They started importing Japanese cars in the 70s. But no, British Leyland/ Rover etc etc was going to give everyone a job for life. Plenty of people could see the writing on the wall, but the shortsighted or the vested assumed they would be getting a payout that was mathematically unsustainable.

    The Social Security culture has bred a selfish 'beggar thy neighbour', 'I'm all right Jack' sort country. People either applauded Thatcher for telling them what they wanted to hear or cursed her for 'inventing' this selfishness.

    The common man has just run out of neighbours to steal from and is only now starting to complain about those few left with the power to do so.

    Your post did not blame pensioners !! go back and read it when speaking about social security you said " offering to take of the young to give to the old " .

  10. Stop shouting you deaf old bugger.

    As you say in the last 20 years it's gone totally tits up. This is under the boomer watch because they are stupid, greedy and lazy.

    Really

    You might think im a deaf old bugger , in that case your a blind young bugger.

    Im not going to throw stones at another generation like you , however will just say this how many young are unemployed ? how many unmarrried mothers are there in the generations that followed the boomers ?

    You can call the boomers greedy fine most humans are .

    Stupid No . lazy no wrong again.

  11. It's a chicken and egg - a too-liberal benefit system will always be ripped off, either by the recipients or those trying to grab too much of the wealth.

    It might be interesting to look at countries with working and adequate benefit systems and see exactly how they avoid this problem.

    Exactley

    Worth looking at oz to see how they put in place a decent pension system , everyone got around the table the workers the govenement and the companies. They have now put in place a system that works.

    In Europe there are social security systems that work . Over here we carry on and have got to the stage now where the govenment have resorted to getting the generations to blame each other like the post I answered who blames the pensioners . FOOLED .

    Over here what came first the young unmarried women who had kids without a father or the fact that going to work and doing the right thing made her worse off as the benefits were so good ? Chicken and Egg .

  12. Fooled by whom? Churchill or the Labour Party in 1945? Anyone can promise 'Social Security' by offering to take taxes from young people to pay for the old, then get the young into debt when fresh meat becomes scarce.

    If you offer the public a Pyramid Scheme vs sound economics, you're always going to get an initial miracle before the reality sets in.

    We're just lucky it lasted 50-odd years.

    Rubbish

    It worked and could have carried on working . Works in other countries , it is only in the last 20 years that it has fked up read your history.

    With more and more women returning to work after having children , outsourcing , and technology the need for labour has reduced the profits of companies have gone up at the same time . However instead of sharing out the spoils and reducing the working week so more people worked but did less the people at the top kept most of the spoils. Pushing more and more people onto the state benefit system , the saftey net became a way of life , NOT WHAT IT WAS MEANT TO BE.

    You have muddled up social security with pensions , people accross the age groups collect social security SO DON'T BLAME THE PENSIONERS .

    Since 1945 govenments both labour and Tory have failed to re access the situation and on going needs for both pensions and social security. Hence the present situation of the figures not adding up . Nothing to do with your fabled BLAME IT ON THE PENSIONERS PYRAMID SCHEME.

  13. I pay £210 per week to rent my flat in London.

    If i were unemployed the state would give me £250 per week to rent somewhere. Should the unemployed be able to live in more expensive properties than those on professional salaries? Seems a bit perverse.

    My brother is a single parent and his take home pay including benefits is 20% higher than his gross salary! Also take into account the other state costs (healthcare, education for my nephews, etc) and his take-home pay is effectively 60% more than his salary.

    Another friend has decided to go back to university after losing his job because that the state are now paying his mortgage interest.

    After tax, rent and bills I only have 35% of my income left (I rent a small 1 bed flat above a restaurant, have no kids, car or pension).

    Difficult to see how the state/economy can sustain this.

    I have no idea how people afford to buy a family home, have a family, run a car and still eat. But then maybe that's why in my late 30s, most of the friends I have my age are single and/or childless!

    My brother is 43 and single , he lives in a shared house in East London paying £120 per week , bills on top.

    His salary is not bad about £35k and he has some savings . He just missed buying prior to prices going through the roof as he had been a bit silly with money and had to pay back debt for years . That has haunted him the rest of his life.

    My other brother 8 years older lives in a council flat , his ex home is with his ex wife who got it in the divorce with a mortgage of £20k she works in a pub and has kept the house . What a difference 8 years made.

    Will the younger brother ever buy ? Only if the inheratance is not spent on nursing home fees. Many people are in this boat .

  14. My heart bleeds for you. Poor lamb.

    It was so much easier for my parents and grandparents, living in a terraced hgouse with an outside bog and no garden. No consumer durables, no foreign holidays (well, a week in Blackpool was as foreign as it got). Rickets. Did okay at school but no opportunity to go further and had to go into work at 14. Working in the same monotonous job and dying early because of the krapp they breathed in.

    God only knows why they were happy.

    You make me puke.

    Then it got better .

    After world war 2 the working class said no we are not working 60 hours a week with no paid holidays , sick pay and giving up most of our hard earned to slum landlords. Chruchill said yes you are so they voted him out.

    The NHS was born , the social security, council houses , the working week got down to 40 hours , paid holidays and sick pay arrived.

    Many young people boomers and pre boomers had a choice a council house or buying and they made their choices, the swinging sixties came along and things just got better and better .

    Now it is all going the other way and things are getting worse and worse . Many people on short term contracts get no or little sick pay , they have insecure employment the dole queqes are getting longer , the pensions are being destroyed , the young cannot afford to buy and the chance of a council house are the same as winning the lottery. In real terms the wages are dropping .

    Yet you are fooled into beleiving things are getting better due to the fact that mass production has made it possible for the working class to get their hands on a few imported bits of consumer tat . Don't be fooled.

  15. The stores they use to clear surplus stock ae called clearance bargains. I'm not sure how accurate they are. On the whole Argos are fairly technically orientated so I'm sure the printed catalogue will eventually disappear.

    On your other point I think the issue with online sales is delivery, delivery, delivery. Few people can have goods delivered to work and without that option purchasing goods online is just a world of pain. I did hope that local collection points would spring up where orders could be consolidated and collected or last mile delivered but I can't see a viable business model in that at the moment.

    A few years back there was a proposal for safe storage boxes outside peoples houses . They would work like nite safes in banks, things could be put in them but only the householder could access the box and take them out. . They do not seem to have caught on.

    The supermarkets deliver late into the night , there is no reason why deleviries have to be day time Monday to Friday why can these companies not deleiver up to 10 -11 p.m.

  16. My mother is 60 and has just signed on, last time signing on was briefly mid 90's. She was sent to somewhere to get a CV done. The women making the CV said 'that is biggest CV i have had to make regarding work history'. She has been told that if she is not computer literature she will have to do a course. Today she came round to see me after received a letter requesting bank statements and on the verge of stopping the claim.

    I wonder if johnny foreigner has had to put as much into the system and is finding it quite as hard taking as little out.

    I pray to god this country collapses in on it's stinking self.

    The policy is to make it as difficult for people like your mother to claim as they can. If she is a person who has worked all her life they feel that she is more likely to go back to work soon than someone who has been unemployed or on the sick for a lot of their life. By making it difficult to claim they hope that people like your mother will give up their claim and find work. The life time claimers they leave alone.

    In 2009 I claimed the sick after major surgery it was made very difficult they came out with lies like they had not received certificates ect. One certificate they claimed not to have received was in the same enverlope as one that they had received , when I told them that both certificates were in the same enverlope they denied this.

    After 9 months on the sick it was almost as difficult to get the claim stopped as it was to get it started , they paid me for 3 months after I had told them I did not want to claim anymore , each time I saw the money show up in my bank account i phoned and got a different excuse each time why I was still getting the money . They never asked for it to be returned.

    The whole purpose of the welfare state has been turned on its head , it was meant to be a saftey net for people like your mother , they pay in and should be able to draw out when needed. However with people now making it a lifestyle choice the limited funds are unable to help many people like your mother. The high unemployment numbers and low wages have put a massive strain on the whole system.

  17. I think you are missing the fact that the suppression of house building through planning laws hides the fact that growth is stalling. Plus high house prices means everyone has to work all the time, of which the government gets a percentage.

    Then re spends a massive amount of that % on HB , plus other benefits for those who have been priced out of work . High house prices gave the economy a boost for a while but are now strangling it. No different to someone adding to their wages each month for ten years by taking out credit they have a far higher standard of living than they would if they had just stuck to their wages. But after ten years they have to live on the wages only as they have reached the end of the credit line, plus they also have to pay back what they owe with interest so are now far worse off than they were prior to living above their means on credit.

  18. The only way to manage this these days for a 15/16 year old girl is to get pregnant and bask in domestic bliss at the taxpayers expense.

    At 18, they can take out lots of debt and go to university for 3 years of drunkeness and debauchary (erm studying).

    The first is a trap

    The second has to be paid back .

    Reading this book this young women lived a very good life in her teens completley independent and she worked a few nights in a bar which funded her fequent trips to London to see her boyfriend. How much would the train fare be now ? far more than a few shifts in a pub.

  19. Is it just me or are these stats not surprising?

    "Bosses at the bargain chain conducted 120 interviews after receiving 25 applications for each of the sales assistant vacancies available – including two from graduates."

    So:

    500 applications

    120 worth interviewing

    120 interviews for 20 jobs = 6 interviews per job - probably well below what we'd do for any technical job we take a look at.

    If they made the 500 turn up before reviewing their CVs and cutting them down to 120, then surely the only story here is 'supermarket wastes people's time'?

    I think you miss the point

    Which is 500 people applied for NMW jobs in a shop , which shows how desperate the job market is , in the past these types of places had a massive turn over of staff and jobs in them were taken as stop gaps , people took them if they had nothing else and they were always avaliable .

  20. Have just read a very interesting book about the life of a middle aged women who was bought up in Scarborough .

    She was born in 1957 and was the Final year of children allowed to leave school at 15 in 1972. Dropping out of Secretrial Colledge she took a job in a solicitors and decided to leave her abusive home at just 15. Her wages covered a bed sit , food , entertainment and clothes .

    Very few children who leave school now at 16 would get a job and if they did the low wages would barley cover travel costs and giving something into the parents home never mind being able to set them up in a bed sit.

    I know 15 is very young but many 18+ people used to do this and get that first taste of independence , another thing that has been taken away by our low pay high cost economy.

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